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Old May 31, 2011, 11:08 PM   #26
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lol, yogurt you just don't want to admit you're wrong. I'm not talking about the SE models. The standard GTX 460's are under $150 with rebates. I'm simply stating a fact that it's not worth 155 used. Can he get $155? Maybe. It's definitely not worth it though.

Continue making him feel good; I'm just being honest with him. Carry on.
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lol, yogurt you just don't want to admit you're wrong. I'm not talking about the SE models. The standard GTX 460's are under $150 with rebates. I'm simply stating a fact that it's not worth 155 used. Can he get $155? Maybe. It's definitely not worth it though.

Continue making him feel good; I'm just being honest with him. Carry on.
No, you can't admit you are wrong. The standard GTX460s might be going for that price, but not any with the Twin Frozer II cooler, or any comparable cooler. His card not only has the best non-reference stock cooling, but it is also a known awesome overclocker. And if it is the Hawk edition card listed in his specs, then it still retails for $200 new.
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lol, you're funny. if he sells it for $155 I will be very happy for him. that's all I can say.
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No, you can't admit you are wrong. The standard GTX460s might be going for that price, but not any with the Twin Frozer II cooler, or any comparable cooler. His card not only has the best non-reference stock cooling, but it is also a known awesome overclocker. And if it is the Hawk edition card listed in his specs, then it still retails for $200 new.
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@jummy again newbie this isn't mine or trt's first rodeo. you on the other hand have apparently never done this.
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@jummy again newbie this isn't mine or trt's first rodeo. you on the other hand have apparently never done this.
personal insults show a lack of intelligence. it's the equivalent of shouting repeatedly to get your point across.
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personal insults show a lack of intelligence. it's the equivalent of shouting repeatedly to get your point across.
newbie means this is new to you; of which this forum, your knowledge of the op, and knowledge of myself are. Shouting repeatedly to get your point accross without any evidence is what you're doing.
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newbie means this is new to you; of which this forum, your knowledge of the op, and knowledge of myself are. Shouting repeatedly to get your point accross without any evidence is what you're doing.
First of all, newbie is what you said. Just because you said something doesn't make it true. I am not "new" to the subject. I may not know the OP or you, but that doesn't change the fact that I was correct.

I showed factual proof of the prices of similar cards. Like I said, if he sells the card for $155 I will be very happy for him. I will even write an apology note if there is proof. However, I do not believe the card is worth $155. I doubt anyone on this forum would pay that.

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I showed factual proof of the prices of similar cards.
No you didn't. You showed prices of lower quality cards and tried to say that because they can be bought cheaper, his card isn't worth $155. A price of a "similar" card would be the Hawx edition card, which still retails for $200. Not some low end card with the reference flower style cooler on it and reference PCB with weak PWM design.
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Round and round we go! You've (three members) expressed your comments, no need to continue. If you really want to change someone's mind on the subject PM them or something because this is ridiculous.
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I'm running a EVGA 560 ti, and it's yet to struggle with anything I've thrown at it. It's done well enough that I've not even bothered checking minimum frame rates.
Okay sold the gtx 460 and took your advice 156.00, and now have a EVGA 560TI, good card and finally a decent low sounding ref cooler.
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Okay sold the gtx 460 and took your advice 156.00, and now have a EVGA 560TI, good card and finally a decent low sounding ref cooler.
I knew you were bored.lol Should be a nice card to play with.
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trt which one did u get ?

wut res do you play at? cant see specs on my cell
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i was looking at the superclocked from evga but the dual fan one

but also 6950/70's 570 idk wut to do dont wanna spend to muchbut then dont wanna be there wishing i did haha

so whens the eta on the card ?
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i was looking at the superclocked from evga but the dual fan one

but also 6950/70's 570 idk wut to do dont wanna spend to muchbut then dont wanna be there wishing i did haha

so whens the eta on the card ?
I have it now, and it does 920 core with no votage change. As long as the voltage is left alone the cooler is fairly quiet. It seems like a win here but I am very very picky so we will see. I was looking at a gtx 480 but at 920 core and stock voltage this card is very near that performance and not nearly as hard on your psu. I will try it out and get back to you. FYI, I have read that these cards are a big improvement over a GTX 460 but that has not been the case here. My GTX 460 even at 810 core was fairly close to this card.

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Yeah, that is pretty much what I've been telling everyone. After all, they are just the same card with a few more shaders enabled and slightly higher overclock potential. The only reason the GTX560 ti seems so much better than the GTX460 is the GTX560's higher stock clocks, but in reality the two are very similar. Once you clock a GTX460 up to the same clock speeds as the GTX560 ti, the difference is at best 15% and usually closer to 10%, which amounts to 5-10FPS in most games when maxed out.
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460 oc close to the 560ti stock or oced ?

Well the Hawk is at 780 core or 810 depending the version so they are basically 560 gtx cards anyways, so overclocked.

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Yeah, that is pretty much what I've been telling everyone. After all, they are just the same card with a few more shaders enabled and slightly higher overclock potential. The only reason the GTX560 ti seems so much better than the GTX460 is the GTX560's higher stock clocks, but in reality the two are very similar. Once you clock a GTX460 up to the same clock speeds as the GTX560 ti, the difference is at best 15% and usually closer to 10%, which amounts to 5-10FPS in most games when maxed out.

I like these cards alot but I'm still wondering if this is truly a single card future proof solution. I was expecting a bit more performance. Dont get me wrong it is a great card and is not a power hog at all but a gtx 480 or 570 is also temping. I piced this card ups at a local store for 229.00 after a rebate and thats taxed so it was a decent deal for a brick and mortar store.
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460 oc close to the 560ti stock or oced ?

Well the Hawk is at 780 core or 810 depending the version so they are basically 560 gtx cards anyways, so overclocked.

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Yeah, that is pretty much what I've been telling everyone. After all, they are just the same card with a few more shaders enabled and slightly higher overclock potential. The only reason the GTX560 ti seems so much better than the GTX460 is the GTX560's higher stock clocks, but in reality the two are very similar. Once you clock a GTX460 up to the same clock speeds as the GTX560 ti, the difference is at best 15% and usually closer to 10%, which amounts to 5-10FPS in most games when maxed out.

I like these cards alot but I'm still wondering if this is truly a single card future proof solution. I was expecting a bit more performance. Dont get me wrong it is a great card and is not a power hog at all but a gtx 480 or 570 is also temping. I picked this card up at a local store for 229.00 after a rebate and thats taxed so it was a decent deal for a brick and mortar store. It was about 9 dollar less on newegg, but you would have to wait three days, so I am happy with the price. FYI I seem to have recieved a moderate overclocker here so far 920/2100 on default voltage and default fan. I'm still working one the overclocking so we will see.

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Okay I can overclock this to the moon but the fan does get loud as heck once you add voltage but at stock it is great.
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Okay I had tried this card before and couldn't get it to boot but since this evga card was having a few minor issues I took it back and tried a gtx 560 ti Twin FrozrII and wow!! The evga card was nice but his card is unreal. The temps are night and day when voltage is applyed. The Evga would hit 85c with the default fan nad this card does not break 60c. This is crazy good approaching 1ghz on air now.

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What is a 4890 going for? that is what a 460 is worth. Same performance. Same heat. I regretted selling my 4890 and getting a 460 FTW

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