Battlefield 3 vs Modern Warfare 3 - Showdown

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

I am surprised you still have any. We need to cut of humanity's cancer which is stupidity, but sadly killing irl is illegal.

If they don't want to fully legalize murder, maybe they could give us a hunting season. Tattoo giant S's somewhere on the sheeple and make summer the season. I'm sure they won't be smart enough to cover up their tattoos.

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

People don't want variety, MW players are scared to even play a game with vehicles. MW players mostly play on consoles were graphics are limited by the hardware and mostly close on both series. MW is a console game, and that market is just flat out brainwashed sadly.

mw3 will sell a lot for sure, but there are a lot of dormant pc gamers waiting and waiting for bf3. expect more sales there because of it.

[HookeyStreet]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

If I look into your avatars eyes longer I may start mummbling the samething and walk off like a zombie

That's the power of The Kotick!!!!

Seriously, for realism, BF3, for all out action, MW3. Both shooters, but very different.

COD will sell far more than BF3, that's a fact. But I predict both games to be must own titles

[FreedomEclipse]

I think weather MW3 has dedicated server support or not will also make or break the game. IMO i cant believe its a topic that needs to be debated. people were petitioning for dedicated servers ever since news first spread around that they were removing it from MW2 in favour of a game matching system.

and online game play suffered. because either peoples connections or computers were too shit to host the game, which meant an uber laggy game. Or there would be a 30second to 1min lul in the game because the host left. and i dont know about you or anyone else, but THAT really annoyed me to no end. not to mention the amount of hackers and botters that dug it an even deeper hole.

people WANT dedicated servers. people have experienced life WITHOUT dedicated servers. and it just makes it even more important to have them.

Knowing Activision. they are most likely going to pull the carpet out of under the PC gamers feet and take it all away again just like they did the first time. I counted no less then 5 petitions each with more then 500k names on them requesting that they put dedicated server support back into the game and they just turned around and totally ignored the community. like a bully on the beach kicking over other kids sandcastles.

then they give it all this gung ho bullshit talk about how they are in touch with the gaming community.

they have no shame. and again, console sales will send the game to the top of the charts because THEY DONT KNOW ANY BETTER. and the whole cycle starts all over again.

[xenocide]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

Very brainwashed, I expect BF3 to do better than BC2 did, even on consoles. But people will still gobble up MW3.

This is pretty much my thinking. I think it will start showing a decline though, because there is no way people will buy MW3 as much as they did Black Ops. If the split between Black Ops and BC2 was 10m\~3m, I expect MW3 and BF3 to split something like ~7.5m\~5m. We're back in an economic downturn, and people are going to start really looking at BF3 and all those console players that love the best looking game will swap sides, or even buy both.

I have 0 doubt BF3 will be the superior game, and that it will be at least twice as good as MW3 on the PC.

[HookeyStreet]

PC: BF3 > MW3

Console: MW3 > BF3

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

That's the power of The Kotick!!!!

Seriously, for realism, BF3, for all out action, MW3. Both shooters, but very different.

I can't agree with COD being more action. Unless our definition is being thrown in a tiny box with other people. The epic Battlefield moments are impossible to top, like sniping apilot out of a chopper, blowing a chopper up with landmines (I've done it). Parachuting out of a building and c4ing the tank under you as you fly over. Being a Medic and hiding right next to the enemy tank crouch moving with it so they can't shoot you, while you continue to use it for cover and mow down their buddies until they get out and you gank the tank.

[random]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

The epic Battlefield moments are impossible to top, like sniping apilot out of a chopper, blowing a chopper up with landmines (I've done it). Parachuting out of a building and c4ing the tank under you as you fly over. Being a Medic and hiding right next to the enemy tank crouch moving with it so they can't shoot you, while you continue to use it for cover and mow down their buddies until they get out and you gank the tank.

now THAT is what I call action ... I gave up convincing my mates about this as they are all head over heels for Blops or MW2.

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by random

now THAT is what I call action ... I gave up convincing my mates about this as they are all head over heels for Blops or MW2.

I wouldn't sweat it, I got a few friends who never had a PC back when 1942 or BF2 were out to switch over. And those few I got, they won't ever go back, because of those battlefield moments.

[kid41212003]

Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

PC: BF3 > MW3

Console: MW3 > BF3

PC > Console

=>

BF3 > MW3

[Wrigleyvillain]

Originally Posted by kid41212003

PC > Console

=>

BF3 > MW3

Hmm yes it's only logical.

[HookeyStreet]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

I can't agree with COD being more action. Unless our definition is being thrown in a tiny box with other people. The epic Battlefield moments are impossible to top, like sniping apilot out of a chopper, blowing a chopper up with landmines (I've done it). Parachuting out of a building and c4ing the tank under you as you fly over. Being a Medic and hiding right next to the enemy tank crouch moving with it so they can't shoot you, while you continue to use it for cover and mow down their buddies until they get out and you gank the tank.

I'm talking about the single-player campaign. Battlefield Bad Company 1 & 2, story wise, aren't even in the same league as Modern Warfare 1 & 2.

Battlefield 3 looks like it has a great campaign mode and for all I know, it could be better than that of Modern Warfare 3.....but I doubt it. I'm already invested in MW because I want to know what happens to Price and Soap on their mission to kill Makarov. Plus, the idea of WWIII kicking off is one I like.

[RuskiSnajper]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Not really, I think COD/MW is inherently more suited to console gaming because of its simplicity, and we appreciate BF because of its complexity. The sheer number of people owning consoles should tilt any fight to COD/MW's side.

Sadly it's true

COD is just a big name because it gets so man mentions in the media.

For the mainstreams, just a name is enough for them to tilt, which is why you see most of advertisments in form of company logos and names. Im not talking about fair sponsorship here, because that's just for honest recognition a company driving something for the good, it's those soccer ads that are big company names just everywhere, that's just a NAME, you don't see it doing, but it does the trick, just because of the awareness.

And when this name is solidified in their brains, they'll be like a filter on the online and elsewhere, imagine a news site similarly to newsmap.jp , let say there's 2 or more equally sized written headlines of articles: - , Battlefield 3 has been released, Call of Duty MW 3 has been released, they would insta-clicl on cod since less are aware of the name , even tho bf is bette, they didn't click the link, ... they don't know it's actually better.

It's sadly all aboard the sheeple train, as the 50% of mainstreams just follows wha's more popular...


Popularity never speaks of quality.

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by HookeyStreet

I'm talking about the single-player campaign. Battlefield Bad Company 1 & 2, story wise, aren't even in the same league as Modern Warfare 1 & 2.

Battlefield 3 looks like it has a great campaign mode and for all I know, it could be better than that of Modern Warfare 3.....but I doubt it. I'm already invested in MW because I want to know what happens to Price and Soap on their mission to kill Makarov. Plus, the idea of WWIII kicking off is one I like.

I have heard MW's SP is actually pretty good. I really liked BC1's SP, I liked the humors aspect and the places the crazy squad took you. But BC2 barely enticed me to play the SP, this does look much improved, but I always felt BF titles were a little bit whacky so I liked BC's humor, I will kinda miss it.

[Wrigleyvillain]

Ya I would play the SP of the later MW games but not interested enough to pay to do so...

[TRIPTEX_CAN]

BF3 > MW3

Console = irrelevant.

[xenocide]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

I have heard MW's SP is actually pretty good. I really liked BC1's SP, I liked the humors aspect and the places the crazy squad took you. But BC2 barely enticed me to play the SP, this does look much improved, but I always felt BF titles were a little bit whacky so I liked BC's humor, I will kinda miss it.

You ever watched a Michael Bay movie? It's the same experience. Most people like the MW Campaigns because they are so over the top. Shit loads of explosions and ridiculous chase scenes...

[crazyeyesreaper]

yet they have gotten so scripted they really are a MOVIE lol with blackops you can beat it never firing your gun roflmfao so much for a single player campaign.

[xenocide]

Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

yet they have gotten so scripted they really are a MOVIE lol with blackops you can beat it never firing your gun roflmfao so much for a single player campaign.

I remember mentioning that video to a friend and him saying; "Yea, but that's no fun..."

He apparently missed that I was pointing out the fact that you even COULD was ridiculous.

[Shihabyooo]

Haters still hatin' ?

[crazyeyesreaper]

yup I'm a hater and I'm still hatin yo

[RuskiSnajper]

So you guys probably know about this



http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44850/Redd...ield-3-boycott



I think this deserves a separate thread ... yeah pretty much (so i moved everything else there)

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by RuskiSnajper

So you guys probably know about this



http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44850/Redd...ield-3-boycott



I think this deserves a separate thread ... yeah pretty much (so i moved everything else there)

lol such a waste of time.

[_JP_]

lol, haters gotta hate somethin', right?
Besides, DICE said the objective was to give players (that pre-ordered) a bigger choice of weapons, not to give any advantage in the game.

[johnnyfiive]

Here's a thought, wouldn't it be awesome if PC games were optimized like console games? As in, wouldn't it be nice to enjoy a $400-$500 video card like console gamers enjoy a Xbox 360 for 6+ years?

That reason alone is why consoles thrive and have such a huge community. It has nothing to do with being 'brainwashed', it has everything to do with being able to put a disc in and start playing immediately. I honestly get sick and tired of having to buy a new video card every year just to play a piece of shit console port on my PC.

Now to my point, MW3 will out sale BF3 just like CoD: BO out sold everything that was released all year. DX9 isn't a shitty engine, its a fantastic engine that got utitlized properly. It runs great on consoles and PC's, so dev's eat that shit up. Where the heck is our DX10 optimized games from dev's? Same goes for DX11, wth are the titles (that aren't stupid, *cough* metro *cough*) that make me feel good about spending $500 on your GTX 580? Why do I need two $500 cards to play Crysis at 60+FPS maxed out on my $1,500+ PC build?

I'm actually very anxious to see the next gen consoles because I have a huge feeling they will kick some serious ass once the killer titles follow. If only PC development got the same attention as consoles do now, those days are over and it makes me an upset johnnyfiive.

/me preorders BF3 on Xbox 360.
/me plays it and then throws the controller at the wall because it feels like I've been turned into a cripple.
/me exudes sadness.