Asrock P67 clubhouse

erixx · Jul 10, 2011, 11:42 AM

No clubhouse? Knowing that these boards are the real deal for conscious enthusiasts, AND that I am buying one (LOL), the lack of a clubhouse in TPU is strange and ... very strange! 8)

Why not open a clubhouse? For the Extreme4, Extreme6, Fatal1ty Professional, and Pro3 users?

Or are there other rooms where you get your good oil?

Crap Daddy · Jul 10, 2011, 12:06 PM

I'm in. Extreme4.

LAN_deRf_HA · Jul 10, 2011, 12:09 PM

And here I thought Biostar was the Asrock of the 1155 gen.

erixx · Jul 10, 2011, 12:29 PM

@LAN defr HA.... ok ok, but it's wheel to wheel with the Asrocks

I am researching because monday or tuesday my kit arrives (Extreme6+2500K). I am copying info about settings from some really cool sites and will post them when I arrive at a conclusion.

So far, looks like most people are superhappy, some have issues with the mixture of sata2 + 3, and high end mouses in the EFI bios. And autooverclock is good, but overvolts (nothing new to p.e. Asus users

I think a club must be opened in the 'clubs' subforum not in the motherboards section... So if moderators allow...

erixx · Jul 10, 2011, 07:03 PM

So far a couple of brother forums dedicated to the board:

English:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?t=18233075 Some nice info!!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...owners-welcome Another 50 plus pages to read...

German:
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...e6-788318.html
More problem focused, not much positive information, but promises if they get to the level of other 'luxx threads!

erixx · Jul 14, 2011, 07:14 PM

Ok this morning I got my Extreme6!!!

Quick thoughts:

1) Manuals are excellent for Asian authorship. Much more care of details and customer than in Asus or Gigabyte manuals. They actually explain some of the technology. But there also quite a lot of absolute 'rise-boiling' nonsense (Friends from the Far East, forgive me!

I will come back with examples. Today it was a race against the clock installing because I have work and tax forms waiting...

2) Hardware installation and boot up: excellent. There is more room between the Noctua C14 and my massive RAM. Instead of 2 rows (Asus P7P55D Pro), it obstructs only 1 row.

I managed to install my HDTV PCIE-1 card in the first slot, after eliminating the metal top cover of the chipset headsink and bending some of its fins. The Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Ti PCI-E card also fits, but is higher and touched my Noctua, otherwise it would have fit better.

Fan connectors: 6. Plenty. 2 for the CPU: 1x 4 pin 1x 3 pin! This is the famous Asrock hybrid philosophy. Starting to love it.

3) EUFI BIOS: sweet but my RAT7 Cyborg mouse is useless. Just used keyboard like in good old days of Bacchus and Buddha. Left most at default and booted into the same Windows 7 x64 installation. Dirty but faultless.... Windows itself disabled some old ASUS 'apps' (spell 'applications') so no error messages at all!

BUT: the old Asus AI-stuff is still there (forgot to uninstall beforehand) as not running services. And I cannot uninstall them! Any help is appreciated. I remember in the past it was a mess difficult to fully uninstall.

erixx · Jul 14, 2011, 07:45 PM

Installation CD:

Not so good.

There are several 'tabs', one for drivers, one for utilities, one for manuals, one for extra software.

Well, if you click on Install All on the drivers tab, thinking that it will install 'all drivers'.... NO! It will install FAK ALL EVERYTHING of the CD: that included Acrobad (I already have it!), Norton Antivirus Demo (I do NOT want it!!!), and some games and bull..... What a waste of time...

... no no...!

erixx · Jul 15, 2011, 08:16 PM

Instant Boot: doesn't seem to work for me. Windows boots fast with or without but nowhere near the 4 seconds they advertise.

BIOS profiles: apparently limited to 3, but in Windows, using the AXTU software you can save unlimited profiles, and boot them.

Overclocking:
Have done auto overclocking: 4000, 4200, 4400, 4600, 4800 all work. But using high voltage (1,39 for 4800 mhz) when changing core voltage for 4800 to 1,25 v it crashes. gotta test more

erixx · Jul 15, 2011, 11:57 PM

i am having fun, but it is not click & win! mostly i get hang ups when surfing the web plus listenig to music...

I got my RAM right: at 1600, CL8-8-8-20 etc..

For now i am back at auto settings, except PLL:disabled.

erixx · Jul 15, 2011, 11:59 PM

ah, then we have Instant Boot, again, tried it again, nothing happens, so I uninstalled it, together with USB boost whatever, as I do not have or use high speed usb3 thingies, yet...

Zen_ · Jul 16, 2011, 02:37 AM

Pro3 here, best board I've had in a long time

TeXBill · Jul 16, 2011, 02:41 AM

Fatal1ty Professional, here and its working great for the last 3 months...

erixx · Jul 16, 2011, 09:22 AM

Hi all !! Welcome to the clubhouse!!!

Power Profiles: I just discovered that now I have a AXTU Profile and an Instant Boot profile.
I have to fine tune suspend modes, as some of them lock the pc...

CPU Throttling : Overclocked at 4400, it stays most of the time idling at 1600mhz during normal windows use, including videos...

erixx · Jul 17, 2011, 02:19 PM

I am a bit confused, whatever mode I choose, or I get lockups during tests or games, or i get hard locks during pc suspension...
In Bios (UEFI) too many options I am unfamiliar with...

Why don't we start uniting forces and start settling the good and bad options?

erixx · Jul 18, 2011, 11:53 AM

I'll take a break to test my latest setup, gaming and stressing the computer (I don't like to spend more than 5 minutes burning/benchmarking; I prefer real world tests!

FYI, I have deactivated certain options in the bios, pardon!, UEFI, and for now it has been soooo stable....

erixx · Jul 18, 2011, 03:58 PM

I have had this running for 80 minutes now, at 4400 Mhz, everything auto and all the energy smart functions ON, RAM at 1600 per specs, CPU at 1,35 volt. Temps are 55C. Did this having Aida64 stress test running, plus internet TV running, plus Media player playing music during 80 min (plus half a dozen other programs open...)

Seems ok so far...

Fans at max, gonna restart to lower them to 50% or so.

erixx · Jul 20, 2011, 09:06 PM

adding more info:
the 100 Mhz "FSB" is underclock by factory. Aida64 reports it is indeed .02 lower, which makes again my RAM and CPU running lower that the specced values of 800(1600), in case of the RAM at 798!

Just tested USB3 with a USB3 WD PAssport drive: averages 27 MB/sec.

erixx · Jul 21, 2011, 01:53 PM

LOW MMIO ALIGN
64 / 1024 MB

Well mine have been always at default at 64, Win7 64bit recognizes my 8 GB of RAM... but I found this on xtreme forums:

Dear Customer,
by default memory addressing is optimized for 64 Bit operating systems, resulting in less available memory for a 32 Bit operating system, with Low MMIO Align you can set it for optimized settings for a 32 Bit operating system.
For a 64 bit operating it should be set to 1024
Kind regards,
ASRock Support

Geez.... they have no clue in Taiwan

erixx · Jul 21, 2011, 09:50 PM

i think i found a sweet spot at 4200 mhz. so far only issue is usb suspension (keyboard and mouse do not wake it up).
Voltage: 1,28 fixed
Temps are 38 C
Just played BC2 and the processor is only at 62% load! (everything is set to the max). I think I am BF3-proof. : )

erixx · Jul 27, 2011, 07:20 AM

USB 3 Etron driver

- Version 0.9: It does recognize my Nokia N8, load it, but Ovi will not see it. Might be Etron or Ovi...
- Found a driver version 1.01 here: http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...etron_usb3.exe It installs fine.

erixx · Jul 31, 2011, 03:54 PM

just went to 4600 and it seems to work hehe

the above benchies are Aida64, it makes feel good, but i don't think their database is updated.

BTW, since I unabled DeepSX for S4 (now=only S5) all my suspend and wake issues are gone...

erixx · Jul 31, 2011, 03:57 PM

Nokia: during last week an Ovi update came out, not it al works fine with USB...

Jul 10, 2011, 11:42 AM	#1
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	Asrock P67 clubhouse No clubhouse? Knowing that these boards are the real deal for conscious enthusiasts, AND that I am buying one (LOL), the lack of a clubhouse in TPU is strange and ... very strange! 8) Why not open a clubhouse? For the Extreme4, Extreme6, Fatal1ty Professional, and Pro3 users? Or are there other rooms where you get your good oil? __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

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Jul 10, 2011, 12:29 PM	#4
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	@LAN defr HA.... ok ok, but it's wheel to wheel with the Asrocks I am researching because monday or tuesday my kit arrives (Extreme6+2500K). I am copying info about settings from some really cool sites and will post them when I arrive at a conclusion. So far, looks like most people are superhappy, some have issues with the mixture of sata2 + 3, and high end mouses in the EFI bios. And autooverclock is good, but overvolts (nothing new to p.e. Asus users I think a club must be opened in the 'clubs' subforum not in the motherboards section... So if moderators allow... __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 10, 2011, 12:06 PM	#2
Crap Daddy Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,282 (2.45/day) Thanks: 941 Thanked 961 Times in 669 Posts System Specs	I'm in. Extreme4.

Jul 10, 2011, 12:09 PM	#3
LAN_deRf_HA Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4,013 (2.14/day) Thanks: 290 Thanked 830 Times in 587 Posts System Specs	And here I thought Biostar was the Asrock of the 1155 gen.

Jul 10, 2011, 07:03 PM	#5
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	So far a couple of brother forums dedicated to the board: English: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...php?t=18233075 Some nice info!! http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...owners-welcome Another 50 plus pages to read... German: http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community...e6-788318.html More problem focused, not much positive information, but promises if they get to the level of other 'luxx threads! __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 14, 2011, 07:14 PM	#6
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	Ok this morning I got my Extreme6!!! Quick thoughts: 1) Manuals are excellent for Asian authorship. Much more care of details and customer than in Asus or Gigabyte manuals. They actually explain some of the technology. But there also quite a lot of absolute 'rise-boiling' nonsense (Friends from the Far East, forgive me! I will come back with examples. Today it was a race against the clock installing because I have work and tax forms waiting... 2) Hardware installation and boot up: excellent. There is more room between the Noctua C14 and my massive RAM. Instead of 2 rows (Asus P7P55D Pro), it obstructs only 1 row. I managed to install my HDTV PCIE-1 card in the first slot, after eliminating the metal top cover of the chipset headsink and bending some of its fins. The Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Ti PCI-E card also fits, but is higher and touched my Noctua, otherwise it would have fit better. Fan connectors: 6. Plenty. 2 for the CPU: 1x 4 pin 1x 3 pin! This is the famous Asrock hybrid philosophy. Starting to love it. 3) EUFI BIOS: sweet but my RAT7 Cyborg mouse is useless. Just used keyboard like in good old days of Bacchus and Buddha. Left most at default and booted into the same Windows 7 x64 installation. Dirty but faultless.... Windows itself disabled some old ASUS 'apps' (spell 'applications') so no error messages at all! BUT: the old Asus AI-stuff is still there (forgot to uninstall beforehand) as not running services. And I cannot uninstall them! Any help is appreciated. I remember in the past it was a mess difficult to fully uninstall. __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 14, 2011, 07:45 PM	#7
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	Installation CD: Not so good. There are several 'tabs', one for drivers, one for utilities, one for manuals, one for extra software. Well, if you click on Install All on the drivers tab, thinking that it will install 'all drivers'.... NO! It will install FAK ALL EVERYTHING of the CD: that included Acrobad (I already have it!), Norton Antivirus Demo (I do NOT want it!!!), and some games and bull..... What a waste of time... ... no no...! __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 15, 2011, 08:16 PM	#8
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	Instant Boot: doesn't seem to work for me. Windows boots fast with or without but nowhere near the 4 seconds they advertise. BIOS profiles: apparently limited to 3, but in Windows, using the AXTU software you can save unlimited profiles, and boot them. Overclocking: Have done auto overclocking: 4000, 4200, 4400, 4600, 4800 all work. But using high voltage (1,39 for 4800 mhz) when changing core voltage for 4800 to 1,25 v it crashes. gotta test more __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 15, 2011, 11:57 PM	#9
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	i am having fun, but it is not click & win! mostly i get hang ups when surfing the web plus listenig to music... I got my RAM right: at 1600, CL8-8-8-20 etc.. For now i am back at auto settings, except PLL:disabled. __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 15, 2011, 11:59 PM	#10
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	ah, then we have Instant Boot, again, tried it again, nothing happens, so I uninstalled it, together with USB boost whatever, as I do not have or use high speed usb3 thingies, yet... __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 16, 2011, 02:37 AM	#11
Zen_ Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Cloud Nine Posts: 398 (0.35/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 97 Times in 72 Posts System Specs	Pro3 here, best board I've had in a long time __________________ Heatware \| Rig \| BC2 Stats

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Jul 16, 2011, 02:41 AM	#12
TeXBill Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: TX Posts: 1,348 (1.04/day) Thanks: 1,431 Thanked 643 Times in 431 Posts System Specs	Fatal1ty Professional, here and its working great for the last 3 months... __________________ heatware:[http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=69231]

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Jul 16, 2011, 09:22 AM	#13
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	Hi all !! Welcome to the clubhouse!!! Power Profiles: I just discovered that now I have a AXTU Profile and an Instant Boot profile. I have to fine tune suspend modes, as some of them lock the pc... CPU Throttling : Overclocked at 4400, it stays most of the time idling at 1600mhz during normal windows use, including videos... __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 17, 2011, 02:19 PM	#14
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	I am a bit confused, whatever mode I choose, or I get lockups during tests or games, or i get hard locks during pc suspension... In Bios (UEFI) too many options I am unfamiliar with... Why don't we start uniting forces and start settling the good and bad options? __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 18, 2011, 11:53 AM	#15
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	I'll take a break to test my latest setup, gaming and stressing the computer (I don't like to spend more than 5 minutes burning/benchmarking; I prefer real world tests! FYI, I have deactivated certain options in the bios, pardon!, UEFI, and for now it has been soooo stable.... __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 18, 2011, 03:58 PM	#16
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	I have had this running for 80 minutes now, at 4400 Mhz, everything auto and all the energy smart functions ON, RAM at 1600 per specs, CPU at 1,35 volt. Temps are 55C. Did this having Aida64 stress test running, plus internet TV running, plus Media player playing music during 80 min (plus half a dozen other programs open...) Seems ok so far... Fans at max, gonna restart to lower them to 50% or so. __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 20, 2011, 09:06 PM	#17
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	adding more info: the 100 Mhz "FSB" is underclock by factory. Aida64 reports it is indeed .02 lower, which makes again my RAM and CPU running lower that the specced values of 800(1600), in case of the RAM at 798! Just tested USB3 with a USB3 WD PAssport drive: averages 27 MB/sec. __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 21, 2011, 01:53 PM	#18
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	LOW MMIO ALIGN 64 / 1024 MB Well mine have been always at default at 64, Win7 64bit recognizes my 8 GB of RAM... but I found this on xtreme forums: Dear Customer, by default memory addressing is optimized for 64 Bit operating systems, resulting in less available memory for a 32 Bit operating system, with Low MMIO Align you can set it for optimized settings for a 32 Bit operating system. For a 64 bit operating it should be set to 1024 Kind regards, ASRock Support Geez.... they have no clue in Taiwan __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 21, 2011, 09:50 PM	#19
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	i think i found a sweet spot at 4200 mhz. so far only issue is usb suspension (keyboard and mouse do not wake it up). Voltage: 1,28 fixed Temps are 38 C Just played BC2 and the processor is only at 62% load! (everything is set to the max). I think I am BF3-proof. : ) __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 27, 2011, 07:20 AM	#20
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	USB 3 Etron driver - Version 0.9: It does recognize my Nokia N8, load it, but Ovi will not see it. Might be Etron or Ovi... - Found a driver version 1.01 here: http://download.gigabyte.eu/FileList...etron_usb3.exe It installs fine. __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca Last edited by erixx; Jul 27, 2011 at 07:44 AM.

Jul 31, 2011, 03:54 PM	#21
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	just went to 4600 and it seems to work hehe the above benchies are Aida64, it makes feel good, but i don't think their database is updated. BTW, since I unabled DeepSX for S4 (now=only S5) all my suspend and wake issues are gone... __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

Jul 31, 2011, 03:57 PM	#22
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,183 (1.89/day) Thanks: 709 Thanked 312 Times in 250 Posts System Specs	Nokia: during last week an Ovi update came out, not it al works fine with USB... __________________ "Where's Carmack when you need him?" by cadaveca

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