GTX 570 upgrade?

[Zbot]

I already have a evga gtx 570 (driver 275.33) and I'm not thrilled with it's performance. I tryed oc with evga precision (800/1600/2100) but I didn't see much improvement or stability so I'm running it on factory clocks now. I run games at 1900x1200 and sometimes I get massive fps drops when playing oblivion (with texture packs) and arma 2, etc. I'm dissapointed in this cards performance or maybe I got a bad card (about 3 months old). I tryed reseatting it, different pci slot, driversweeper/reinstall drivers, reformat, checked cables, different psu and still the same perfomance..

So my question is, would getting another gtx 570 in sli solve this problem or should I just get a better card? Also I don't mind spending the $ if I can play games at max specs and I'm going to need to upgrade my psu if I get another card which is fine. I'm looking at gtx 590 or I might even get an ati (for the first time in my life )

So do you think I'm I bottlenecking somewhere and I just think it's my gpu, bios settings, bad card?

My comp specs are in my profile and thank you for the help

[sy5tem]

try a SLI first . you will be happy...

[Zbot]

Originally Posted by sy5tem

try a SLI first . you will be happy...

Thanks for the reply. What size psu should I get if I'm going to get another gtx 570 sli?

[neatfeatguy]

Originally Posted by Zbot

I already have a evga gtx 570 (driver 275.33) and I'm not thrilled with it's performance. I tryed oc with evga precision (800/1600/2100) but I didn't see much improvement or stability so I'm running it on factory clocks now. I run games at 1900x1200 and sometimes I get massive fps drops when playing oblivion (with texture packs) and arma 2, etc. I'm dissapointed in this cards performance or maybe I got a bad card (about 3 months old). I tryed reseatting it, different pci slot, driversweeper/reinstall drivers, reformat, checked cables, different psu and still the same perfomance..

So my question is, would getting another gtx 570 in sli solve this problem or should I just get a better card? Also I don't mind spending the $ if I can play games at max specs and I'm going to need to upgrade my psu if I get another card which is fine. I'm looking at gtx 590 or I might even get an ati (for the first time in my life )

So do you think I'm I bottlenecking somewhere and I just think it's my gpu, bios settings, bad card?

My comp specs are in my profile and thank you for the help

I saw improvement going to a GTX 570 up from dual GTX 280s in SLI. The jump wasn't terribly significant, but it was there. A few games I tested the SLI out performed the GTX 570, but that was only in a few at stock speeds. One of the main reasons I picked up a GTX 570 was to use less power and generate less heat, but to keep the same performance or better then what I was getting with my 280s.

I haven't used EVGA Precision for a while, so maybe they upgraded the program, but last time I did use it there was no way to adjust the voltage. There's no way you're going to run stable on those OC speeds you put up without adjusting the voltage with it that I can recall.

Using MSI Afterburner I had to take the voltage up from 963 (stock setting) up to 1075 to run stable on 900/1800/2050. Once I ran these speeds, the GTX 570 out performed any game that I tested my GTX 280s on.

Maybe you got a bad card, then again....what did you upgrade from?

[happita]

Don't rely on Oblivion as a measure of hardware performance. The game is only made to utilize 1 CPU core. Once you throw in texture packs and all the goodness, the graphics card can only do so much (doesn't matter what card you have), then the CPU has to do it's job. My current rig only gets about 20ish FPS in Oblivion maxed @ 1920x1080 with HDR and 24xAA SuperSampling through CCC.

[Zbot]

Originally Posted by neatfeatguy

I saw improvement going to a GTX 570 up from dual GTX 280s in SLI. The jump wasn't terribly significant, but it was there. A few games I tested the SLI out performed the GTX 570, but that was only in a few at stock speeds. One of the main reasons I picked up a GTX 570 was to use less power and generate less heat, but to keep the same performance or better then what I was getting with my 280s.

I haven't used EVGA Precision for a while, so maybe they upgraded the program, but last time I did use it there was no way to adjust the voltage. There's no way you're going to run stable on those OC speeds you put up without adjusting the voltage with it that I can recall.

Using MSI Afterburner I had to take the voltage up from 963 (stock setting) up to 1075 to run stable on 900/1800/2050. Once I ran these speeds, the GTX 570 out performed any game that I tested my GTX 280s on.

Maybe you got a bad card, then again....what did you upgrade from?

a single gtx 280

EVGA Precision doesn't have voltage tweaking but I think evga E-Leet has it but I've never volt modded my gpu and would need help in doing so.

[Zbot]

Originally Posted by happita

Don't rely on Oblivion as a measure of hardware performance. The game is only made to utilize 1 CPU core. Once you throw in texture packs and all the goodness, the graphics card can only do so much (doesn't matter what card you have), then the CPU has to do it's job. My current rig only gets about 20ish FPS in Oblivion maxed @ 1920x1080 with HDR and 24xAA SuperSampling through CCC.

Yeah I noticed that too. BFBC 2 (full specs) runs awsome on my gtx 570 but when I played oblivion (modded) I get low fps. You would think the gtx 570 would perform great on such an old game

[neatfeatguy]

Originally Posted by Zbot

Yeah I noticed that too. BFBC 2 (full specs) runs awsome on my gtx 570 but when I played oblivion (modded) I get low fps. You would think the gtx 570 would perform great on such an old game

Oblivion just sucks at letting powerful rigs run the game well.

This is especially noticeable when you get a handful of NCPs on screen with you, it was one of the things that really irritated me about the game. Getting a second card for SLI won't really give you any better performance in that game.

I'd really only suggest SLI if you're gaming at 1080p and higher if you want to max out every setting on any game out there right now. Or if you're gaming on 3 monitors - which will be my next big upgrade on my computer; add a third monitor and a second GTX 570, but that's a ways off still.

[newtekie1]

Originally Posted by neatfeatguy

Oblivion just sucks at letting powerful rigs run the game well.

This is especially noticeable when you get a handful of NCPs on screen with you, it was one of the things that really irritated me about the game. Getting a second card for SLI won't really give you any better performance in that game.

Isn't Oblivion like severaly CPU limitted? If that is the case then the fact that his i7 is only running at 3.33GHz might be limitting him here. Also, the game is single threaded.

I think I would try pushing the CPU overclock higher before considering the GPU.

[Xorgetra]

SLI does 2 beats and feel the POWER ! lol

Same happen to me with a single GTX480 , then recently i bought another 480 , and OMG , nothing goes below 60fps , even in Crysis Warhead

[Black Haru]

Originally Posted by newtekie1

Isn't Oblivion like severaly CPU limitted? If that is the case then the fact that his i7 is only running at 3.33GHz might be limitting him here. Also, the game is single threaded.

I think I would try pushing the CPU overclock higher before considering the GPU.

this. you will be disappointed if you get a different/additional card. the simple fact is that you are playing a game in a way it was never coded to play. your best bet is to improve your cpu clocks (even if only one core)

[random]

As everyone said, it is time for you to overclock your CPU if you wanna see better performance in Oblivion. 4ghz should be fairly easy to achieve with that cooler+CPU, but I recommend you you do a bit of research first.

[Zbot]

Thanks for all the advice. Im gettin a h100 this week so im going to disable dummy o.c. and try to get a higher stable o.c. manuely. Any advice or tips?

[LordJummy]

Originally Posted by Zbot

Thanks for all the advice. Im gettin a h100 this week so im going to disable dummy o.c. and try to get a higher stable o.c. manuely. Any advice or tips?

I have a long thread about overclocking the 950 on x58 platform with all in one coolers.

4.0 should be PLENTY on the 950, just make sure you're running 1600Mhz-ish RAM with it as well. The 950 has a higher multiplier than the 920 for example, so you can do something like

182 base * 22 multi = 4.0Ghz

191 base * 21 multi = 4.0Ghz

200 base * 20 multi = 4.0Ghz, as this gives you better options for RAM OC'ing than the other two. The only problem is it takes a high QPI voltage, and decent core as well. I use the second configuration of 191*21 currently, and i do 200*22 for benching and stuff at 4.4Ghz.

My QPI is at 1.400 with the 200 base * 20, and it's at roughly 1.3875 with 191 base*21 multi, core voltage on my 950 is always under 1.3 unless I go over 4.0Ghz. For 4.2 and 4.4 i need significantly more.

Everyone's chip is different, and you will need to isolate your base FIRST before going for a real OC. You need to find out what base clocks are stable with your chip, then you will start raising the multiplier and voltage as needed - PER A GUIDE. DO not OC blindly without understanding how it works, and always make sure you have sufficient cooling. The H100 should let you get some very healthy OC's on that chip. Also keep in mind a lot of 950's are power hungry and just run hot.

Good luck, and post screen shots and details after you read the guides and get started.

Look up the i7 OC'ing guide on here, it will help you if you don't know what you're doing.

[Zbot]

Hey thanks lordjummy I will def check out your thread.

[erocker]

I think you should upgrade your PSU first. The FPS drops could be a power issue and since you're using an Ultra PSU that could very well be the case.

[Zbot]

Originally Posted by erocker

I think you should upgrade your PSU first. The FPS drops could be a power issue and since you're using an Ultra PSU that could very well be the case.

I have power managment at performance in the Nvidia control panel and Vdroop is disabled but I was planning on getting a 1000w psu in the near future.

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