Apple STILL think they're immune!

Red_Machine · Aug 8, 2011, 01:58 PM

Reading this month's issue of PCPro, they have an article on Apple's lacluster attitude to security.

When the whole MacDefender thing was going on, Apple sent a memo to all stores and authorised repair centres saying:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apple

AppleCare does not provide support for removal of malware. You should not confirm or deny whether the customer's Mac is infected or not.

If you call Apple tech support and mention antivirus they actually tell you NOT to install it. If you ask me, that's just irresponsible and downright ignorant. They're pretty much sticking their head in the sand and shouting "Lalalalala! We don't get viruses! Not listening!"

mlee49 · Aug 8, 2011, 02:05 PM

Mac's dont get virus's

Mac's dont get BSOD's/lockup

Mac's dont get upgrades

Seriously though, Apple could make a killing off of a Mac security/malware program. It would cost $100 and not do anything

TheMailMan78 · Aug 8, 2011, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Machine

Reading this month's issue of PCPro, they have an article on Apple's lacluster attitude to security.

When the whole MacDefender thing was going on, Apple sent a memo to all stores and authorised repair centres saying:

If you call Apple tech support and mention antivirus they actually tell you NOT to install it. If you ask me, that's just irresponsible and downright ignorant. They're pretty much sticking their head in the sand and shouting "Lalalalala! We don't get viruses! Not listening!"

This is old news but the fact its out there means there will be a class action eventually.

Red_Machine · Aug 8, 2011, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee49

Mac's dont get BSOD's/lockup:

Actually, they do. I've used several Macs that have locked up and required hot resets.

TheMailMan78 · Aug 8, 2011, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Machine

Actually, they do. I've used several Macs that have locked up and required hot resets.

I thought you English were good at sarcasm.

Wrigleyvillain · Aug 8, 2011, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_Machine

Actually, they do. I've used several Macs that have locked up and required hot resets.

Ok though what specifically does that have to do with malware?

Apple now has more cash on hand than the US Gov't. They can do whatever they want.

mlee49 · Aug 8, 2011, 04:29 PM

Just read this:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20...reat/?ttag=fbw

Basically, the new Macbook Pro's batteries can be hacked and kill a laptop by overcharging and catching fire.

The battery controller chip manufactured by Texas Instruments used a password for full access, which was openly distributed in TI documentation. So a smart guy used the password to access, change, and kill laptop batteries that cannot be changed by the customer.

lilhasselhoffer · Aug 8, 2011, 04:43 PM

We are the cult of Apple.

Jobs is god.
Our computers are impervious to the heathens on the internet.
Our software may be less featured, but the UI is good.
Our systems have gotten past locking up/BSODs. They no longer have that backward feature.

Seriously? If you want to go Mac, you basically sign over your PC soul. You get some extra stability, but lose all customization and half of the advanced features. Apple believes they are coding gods, and a walled garden development system makes them absolutely impervious. I hate to break it to them, but DRM functions exactly like they do. It lasts about a week before it's broken, and Apple doesn't push out new patches constantly.

I guess blinding yourself, drinking paint thinner, and poking out your eardrums will make you unaware of the stupid going on around you. Unfortunately, it doesn't stop your peers from pulling out a baseball bat and breaking your knees. At least the day is coming when PCs are as UI friendly as a Mac. On that day, there will finally be a piper to pay...

twicksisted · Aug 8, 2011, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee49

Mac's dont get virus's

Mac's dont get BSOD's/lockup

Mac's dont get upgades

Seriously though, Apple could make a killing off of a Mac security/malware program. It would cost $100 and not do anything

sorry but thats a load of BS!

micropage7 · Aug 8, 2011, 04:59 PM

they too confident bout their OS
yeah if we take a look most viruses, trojan, worm and their friends for windows but sooner or later mac will have some of it
preventif is better than you start to fix when it goes bad and i guess apple fails on that

WhiteLotus · Aug 8, 2011, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlee49

Mac's dont get virus's

Mac's dont get BSOD's/lockup

Mac's dont get upgades

Seriously though, Apple could make a killing off of a Mac security/malware program. It would cost $100 and not do anything

Upgades?!

What the hell are upgades?!

Sounds like slang that gets used between homosexuals.

pantherx12 · Aug 8, 2011, 05:06 PM

I'm ashed at British folks missing blatant sarcasm.

He even starts the sentence at the end with "Seriously though" implying everything prior was lies or sarcasm.

For SHAME.

Also No surprise there, Apple are a mess IMO.

WhiteLotus · Aug 8, 2011, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantherx12

I'm ashed at British folks missing blatant sarcasm.

He even starts the sentence at the end with "Seriously though" implying everything prior was lies or sarcasm.

For SHAME.

Also No surprise there, Apple are a mess IMO.

No you can tell he is damn serious. Look at the way he posted, using a list and words that we don't know about.

TheMailMan78 · Aug 8, 2011, 05:09 PM

Yeah man you limey bastards are missing the sarcasm left and right! The riots have made you dull!

Widjaja · Aug 8, 2011, 05:09 PM

Doesn't really matter if their OS is basic, whether it is really, malware proof, free of BSOD/lockup and without updates.

As long as it can play the sims 3, go online, bullshit on facebook, upload music to your iPod, and most importantly be the envy of your computer illiterate friends for having such a cool, elite looking and expensive piece of equipment with a light up bitten into apple logo which makes you feel superior.....who cares?

WhiteLotus · Aug 8, 2011, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Yeah man you limey bastards are missing the sarcasm left and right! The riots have made you dull!

What you mean it's day?! Wow butter me up and take me to brown town I thought it was evening all ready!

entropy13 · Aug 8, 2011, 05:16 PM

Blasphemers! The Almighty Jobs is infallible! The Holy Apple are incapable of such acts! Such baseless accusations from heathens does not serve them well, only causing them to solidify the fact that they are infidels! Death to the non-believers! Glory to Apple! Hail Steve Jobs!

TheMailMan78 · Aug 8, 2011, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteLotus

What you mean it's day?! Wow butter me up and take me to brown town I thought it was evening all ready!

I don't even know WTF you just said. Jolly good, pip, pip, carry on!

FordGT90Concept · Aug 8, 2011, 05:19 PM

Apple comes across as the type that would have unprotected sex with a stranger. They don't care how many STDs they contract, as long as they keep denying it, people will still want to have unprotected sex with them.

WhiteLotus · Aug 8, 2011, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I don't even know WTF you just said. Jolly good, pip, pip, carry on!

To the public house!

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Apple comes across as the type that would have unprotected sex with a stranger. They don't care how many STDs they contract, as long as they keep denying it, people will still want to have unprotected sex with them.

I 100% agree with you Ford.

FordGT90Concept · Aug 8, 2011, 05:28 PM

Oh, and the irony of it: they would rather be ignorant about it to protect their "Mac's don't get viruses" slogan than milk the virus-removal cashcow. Everyone that services computers knows that's where the money is in PCs.

Are they really that fearful of being incapable of selling Macs due to losing faith in their false advertising?

Ha, they qualified it: "It doesn’t get PC viruses." So now they do get viruses, just not PC viruses! Ahahahaha! *falls off of chair*

At least they aren't outright lying now but, they're still ignorant.

ensabrenoir · Aug 8, 2011, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Widjaja

Doesn't really matter if their OS is basic, whether it is really, malware proof, free of BSOD/lockup and without updates.

As long as it can play the sims 3, go online, bullshit on facebook, upload music to your iPod, and most importantly be the envy of your computer illiterate friends for having such a cool, elite looking and expensive piece of equipment with a light up bitten into apple logo which makes you feel superior.....who cares?

SSSSHHHHHH!!!!!! Thats a trade marked marketing tool belonging solely to, and to be used only by the subject of this thread. violators will be disemboweled, secretly located and brainwas.... re-educated to the perfection of APPLE! There will be no further updates or warnings.

......u know they're probably reading all this right now tracking....

Widjaja · Aug 8, 2011, 05:42 PM

Picture says sexy women use Macs.

If I get a Mac I'll be sexy too.

specks · Aug 9, 2011, 10:55 PM

Screw Immunity.

Nobody's immune. Apple is just a very small target compared to say like, Windows

FordGT90Concept · Aug 10, 2011, 02:48 AM

...but that target is growing. Sad that they've made it a policy to be reactive instead of proactive. It took Microsoft almost two decades to finally become proactive and they got a pretty bad rap for it.

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FordGT90Concept "I go fast!1!11!1!" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: IA, USA Posts: 10,564 (6.29/day) Thanks: 1,751 Thanked 2,594 Times in 1,959 Posts System Specs	Oh, and the irony of it: they would rather be ignorant about it to protect their "Mac's don't get viruses" slogan than milk the virus-removal cashcow. Everyone that services computers knows that's where the money is in PCs. Are they really that fearful of being incapable of selling Macs due to losing faith in their false advertising? Ha, they qualified it: "It doesn’t get PC viruses." So now they do get viruses, just not PC viruses! Ahahahaha! falls off of chair At least they aren't outright lying now but, they're still ignorant. __________________ Golden Rule of Programming: Never assume. try { SteamDownload(); } catch (Steamception ex) { RageQuit(); }

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FordGT90Concept "I go fast!1!11!1!" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: IA, USA Posts: 10,564 (6.29/day) Thanks: 1,751 Thanked 2,594 Times in 1,959 Posts System Specs	...but that target is growing. Sad that they've made it a policy to be reactive instead of proactive. It took Microsoft almost two decades to finally become proactive and they got a pretty bad rap for it. __________________ Golden Rule of Programming: Never assume. try { SteamDownload(); } catch (Steamception ex) { RageQuit(); }

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