Bulldozer Information Thread.

[repman244]

Originally Posted by heky

Yeah if the performance is mediocre, than sure. But if the prformance was awesome even i would click a pre-order button. But that is just not case i reckon.

He isn't talking about stalling sales of BD but stalling sales of the current lineup.

[OneMoar]

pre-release benchmarks mean nothing why don't you idiots sit your asses down and wait and quit pestering the poor guy its not his call

[LordJummy]

Originally Posted by OneMoar

pre-release benchmarks mean nothing why don't you idiots sit your asses down and wait and quit pestering the poor guy its not his call

They sure mean something to a lot of users. I don't think calling everyone idiots is helping anything either. The rep wouldn't be here if he didn't want to answer questions.

[OneMoar]

doesn't matter if its not his call "playing games" and trying to work info out of him is just wrong and thats exactly what you guys are doing you really don't care about the benchmarks you just want info OMG NAO there will be plenty of benchmarks AFTER the chip hits the shelves

[qubit]

Originally Posted by OneMoar

doesn't matter if its not his call "playing games" and trying to work info out of him is just wrong and thats exactly what you guys are doing you really don't care about the benchmarks you just want info OMG NAO there will be plenty of benchmarks AFTER the chip hits the shelves

It's funny how leaked benchies always appear when the upcoming product blows away the current champ, but have a tight lid on them when it doesn't, isn't it? This tells you something, doesn't it?

I'm predicting that Bulldozer will be ok, but nothing special and AMD will be forced to price their top processors "competitively". Yet again.

[OneMoar]

I agree I think bulldozer will probably not be faster or even EQUALLY ( core for core clk for clk ) as fast as a 2600k and that's disappointing but that's not what amd has been about recently ( and that's also disappointing *misses amd kicking netburst across the court* )
amd has by far the best price/performance ratio HOW ever
saying things like ... leaked benchmarks = OMG ACCURATEZ or Well they havent said anything so it must be .. total shit ... ever consider it might be soo awesome that you won't be-able to handle it :P

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by OneMoar

there will be plenty of benchmarks AFTER the chip hits the shelves

Unlike you, I'm not happy to wait for benchmarks and reviews, I want to do my very own benchmarks, and I need CPUs for motherboard reviews.

But then, JF-AMD answers MY questions, becuase I'm not interested in performance at this ponit..I want to figure that out myself.

I've been saying for ages now no-one should be getting to excited on pre-release info, and to wait for official info; seems redundant to repeat it at this point.

[Goodman]

Originally Posted by qubit

When the lid on leaks is kept so tightly shut, it's normally because the new product isn't as good as the competitor's existing products (Intel here).

Well, we know next to nothing about Bulldozer and it's getting real close to launch time, so isn't it likely to be another disappointing performer from AMD, like the original Phenom?

Originally Posted by qubit

It's funny how leaked benchies always appear when the upcoming product blows away the current champ, but have a tight lid on them when it doesn't, isn't it? This tells you something, doesn't it?

I'm predicting that Bulldozer will be ok, but nothing special and AMD will be forced to price their top processors "competitively". Yet again.

I agree , look at Intel we know how it performs weeks or months before the launch/buy it in stores...

[LifeOnMars]

I'm just looking forward to the release, knowing AMD, pricing should be very interesting.

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by qubit

It's funny how leaked benchies always appear when the upcoming product blows away the current champ, but have a tight lid on them when it doesn't, isn't it? This tells you something, doesn't it?

I'm predicting that Bulldozer will be ok, but nothing special and AMD will be forced to price their top processors "competitively". Yet again.

Really? How much did you know about the 6990 before it released? Which company released that?

[BeepBeep2]

Originally Posted by seronx

http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showp...&postcount=387

Charlie says something



The i5 2500K has no clear competition with AMDs lineup as their will be no pure "Quad-Core" setup(A CMP setup)

The only thing in it's range is the Llano's A8-A6 that are quad-cores in a CMP sense

Bobcat is going to be a dual core CMP only
Bulldozer is going to be a module CMT only

i5 2500K = Good purchase

There will be Bulldozer CMT parts at 2500k pricing that will multitask as well as 2500k if they are in the same price range...it will have clear competition, and probably lose out.

[ensabrenoir]

I'm just looking forward for something new. Don't want the amd guy 2 get into trouble, total dream job. But I think what many want and will have to wait for is clearity. Is bd designed to be in sb's zipcode or just a new path that amd's pioneering. Clearity... that's all we want(and will have to wait for..... u guys are better than the gov't when it come to keeping secrets). When coby(lakers) messed up he said so...... didn't seem 2 effect his image, game or $. Tiger Woods said nothing.... ended up on saturdaynight live(funniest skit it years) almost lost everything. Define the bulldozer or people will just make up stuff...like they've been doing.

[cadaveca]

@ Hot Chips, AMD said that they were targeting the 2600K with the high-end FX.

What I'm not sure on is if that's the launch FX chips, or if they are talking about revised chips that are expected in the spring?

Seems to me that they will release the next chips i nteh spring to coincide with IvyBridge release, as that's the only thing that makes sense for them to even talk about updated models at this point, so I'm not too sure, but I think I have a pretty good idea of what to expect, which is SB-like performance, but NOT IB-like.

They'll be close, anyway.

[Altered]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

Really? How much did you know about the 6990 before it released? Which company released that?

I don't know about the 6990 hype before release but the 5000 series seemed to be on every advertisement on every website.

[LordJummy]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

Really? How much did you know about the 6990 before it released? Which company released that?

I thought everyone knew the 6990 was just going to be a dual 6970 chip card. They didn't have to do much advertising, because it was already proven in the 6970 IMO. The performance speaks for itself. The freakin' thing is sold out across the world.

Side note: god damn bitcoin miners have been driving up the 6990 and 5970's prices lately. it's ridiculous.

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by LordJummy

I thought everyone knew the 6990 was just going to be a dual 6970 chip card. They didn't have to do much advertising, because it was already proven in the 6970 IMO. The performance speaks for itself. The freakin' thing is sold out across the world.

Side note: god damn bitcoin miners have been driving up the 6990 and 5970's prices lately. it's ridiculous.

Everyone new it would be 2 6970's, but nobody knew if it would run like them. Nobody knew if there were going to be performance cuts and we didn't get a single benchmark until the day it released.

[qubit]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

Really? How much did you know about the 6990 before it released? Which company released that?

I think there were leaks, but I don't remember clearly now to properly argue it either way.

Anyway, I think LordJummy's answer to you is a really good one.

[Damn_Smooth]

Originally Posted by qubit

I think there were leaks, but I don't remember clearly now to properly argue it either way.

Anyway, I think LordJummy's answer to you is a really good one.

There weren't any. AMD has been doing a very good job of plugging leaks recently. I just don't agree with leaks having anything to do with good or bad performance. If we had leaks we would know, but us not having any isn't telling of anything other than people aren't breaking the NDA.

[qubit]

Originally Posted by Damn_Smooth

There weren't any. AMD has been doing a very good job of plugging leaks recently. I just don't agree with leaks having anything to do with good or bad performance. If we had leaks we would know, but us not having any isn't telling of anything other than people aren't breaking the NDA.

Well, while I think it does generally indicate supremacy or not of the upcoming product, I think we can agree that it's not a hard and fast rule.

[TheLaughingMan]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

I have a pretty good idea of what to expect, which is SB-like performance, but NOT IB-like.

They'll be close, anyway.

I can live with that. While there are a number of ways to view that, trading blows with the 2600K in testing say both at their stock settings would make me happy. If it loses clock for clock and Overclocking potential, fine.

I just hope whatever this chip is and the module design/shared resources concept shows AMD is on the right track moving forward. Don't forget they bet the company on this. I don't think they would survive failure.

[cadaveca]

All I care about is if it plays game with multiple cards the same way. The APUs already do a decent job, so I'm fairly confident it'll be fast enough.

Besides, I've been talking about IOMMU's and crap for a long time now, and Bulldozer with 7-series GPUs should bring it.

[seronx]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

All I care about is if it plays game with multiple cards the same way. The APUs already do a decent job, so I'm fairly confident it'll be fast enough.

With innovation nothing is the same

I vote it plays game with multiple cards the better way.

[TheLaughingMan]

Originally Posted by seronx

With innovation nothing is the same

I vote it plays game with multiple cards the better way.

WTF does that even mean?

[seronx]

Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

WTF does that even mean?

I copy and pasted and it didn't work as planned

Basically, what I meant to say is Bulldozer will most likely out perform Phenom II in multi-card scenarios

Same GPUs, Better Performance

[ensabrenoir]

Originally Posted by TheLaughingMan

I can live with that. While there are a number of ways to view that, trading blows with the 2600K in testing say both at their stock settings would make me happy. If it loses clock for clock and Overclocking potential, fine.

I just hope whatever this chip is and the module design/shared resources concept shows AMD is on the right track moving forward. Don't forget they bet the company on this. I don't think they would survive failure.

Honestly seems like the only one talking about bulldozer is ....us. I've read more from Amd about piledriver than bd. I hope they didn't put up the farm for this one. If all this silence is to keep intel from coming out with a quick one up then well played AMD. If its houston we have a problem well amd gpus still rule.