looking for a cheap Motherboard just for the mean time

DOM · Aug 3, 2006, 01:47 AM

I just want one thats cheap just untill i save some $ and get the better stuff when they come out. So i want to be able to OC my stuff but dont really know whats the best bang for my buck. if you need any more info. let me know

Processor
Intel Pentium 4 HT 520 2.80GHz (Prescott) LGA 775
Memory
1GBX2 PNY DDR2-533 PC4300

jph1589 · Aug 3, 2006, 01:57 AM

I have the ECS C19-A SLI. You can get it for about $75. It is a very stable board with new drivers recently released and 2 bios updates in the last month.

The only big problem is that the pci express slots only run at x8 no matter if you have one or two graphics cards installed. According to some, that isn't a problem since the GPU can't push it above x8 anyway. I have no idea if that is correct.

I have a P4 520J installed with 1gb 2x512 of Corsair VS DDR2 533. The FSB runs easily at 1000 and that puts my cpu at 3.5ghz. It runs perfect and fast. I am about to put a 550J into it just to get me by until the core 2 problems all shake out.

I'd be glad to answer any questions you might have about it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...MP=OTC-yah00TT

DOM · Aug 3, 2006, 02:08 AM

so where did you buy it? can you over clock the ram? so is that bad that the pci-e only gets x8 ? so whould you know if there is other ones that would also a good choice?

Azn Tr14dZ · Aug 3, 2006, 02:10 AM

You can get it from newegg. X8 isn't bad because the 7950GX2 only takes up X6 BandWidth...

i_am_mustang_man · Aug 3, 2006, 02:12 AM

i have that sameboard in a rig i built to sell. it's probably the best price/performance ratio of sli 775 out there. my fsb and ram is a little weird because i have a celeron with a 23x multiplier, but it's not mine to figure out, i just looked. in the bios there are two separate places to oc: your cpu and then your ram. i can take my ram up from 533 to 667 or 800. it didn't change after i changed the clock on the cpu either, so i don't know what's exactly up, but there are a bunch of tweakable options

jph1589 · Aug 3, 2006, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

so where did you buy it? can you over clock the ram? so is that bad that the pci-e only gets x8 ? so whould you know if there is other ones that would also a good choice?

You can adjust the PCIE, FSB, Ram speeds and the vcore and ram voltage. You can link the fsb to the ram or set them separately.

I have mine on expert and my PCIE is set to 110mhz. fsb is set to 1000. ram is at 533 (because it is VS and doesn't overclock well), cpu voltage is at auto and the ram is at 1.8v.

DOM · Aug 3, 2006, 02:17 AM

well i got to go to work, so if thats the cheapest thats the best or is there any other that good let me know. well i'll be on when i get home in the moring

jph1589 · Aug 3, 2006, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

so where did you buy it? can you over clock the ram? so is that bad that the pci-e only gets x8 ? so whould you know if there is other ones that would also a good choice?

Is the MSI P4n SLI-FI

It is a very good and stable board also. It has the ability to control the fsb and nbridge voltage also. The ECS board won't do that.....if you even care.

DOM · Aug 3, 2006, 12:24 PM

so these are two boards i ve been suggested

Open Box: MSI P4N SLI-FITotal: $58.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813130362R

ECS C19-A SLI Total: $84.12
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813135225

so does any one got any other suggestions? are the open box ones like bad ones that ppl sent back ?

jph1589 · Aug 3, 2006, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

so these are two boards i ve been suggested

Open Box: MSI P4N SLI-FITotal: $58.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813130362R

ECS C19-A SLI Total: $84.12
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813135225

so does any one got any other suggestions? are the open box ones like bad ones that ppl sent back ?

The open box boards for the P4n SLI are probably from their early release when they had trouble with some compatibility on some pentium d models. That is just an assumption. You have to weigh the risk yourself. You won't get all the accessories or the I/O shield with it. So that is up to you.

There are some new ones available for a little more money.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...st=pricerunner

DOM · Aug 3, 2006, 11:49 PM

this is an open box or used right?
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch..._Code=11026709

is newegg the only place to get anygood motherboards for cheap?

Azn Tr14dZ · Aug 3, 2006, 11:59 PM

Newegg is the best place to buy, great customer service.

Asus has a great motherboard too, the P5ND2 SLI:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131578
But the recent customer reviews aren't that great...

If you're gonna get a new motherboard, you'll have to get a new case since they won't fit in Dell.

DOM · Aug 4, 2006, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Azn Tr14dZ

Newegg is the best place to buy, great customer service.

Asus has a great motherboard too, the P5ND2 SLI:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131578
But the recent customer reviews aren't that great...

If you're gonna get a new motherboard, you'll have to get a new case since they won't fit in Dell.

yea i know i need a new case so is this one better then the MSI P4N SLI-FI nForce4 SLI like in the features i can oc with

Azn Tr14dZ · Aug 4, 2006, 12:14 AM

I would go with the C19 SLI, mid-range, best bang for the buck, and really good reviews. Don't go with the MSI.

Have you found a case you like yet?

DOM · Aug 4, 2006, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Azn Tr14dZ

I would go with the C19 SLI, mid-range, best bang for the buck, and really good reviews. Don't go with the MSI.

Have you found a case you like yet?

well not really i hav'nt looked yet, just going to get a cheap a$$ one, cuz well today my gf got a job and going to start 21st, so dont wanna spend to much cuz after i finish paying my tv in nov. going to see if i could build me a good one with better stuff cuz going to find out friday moring how much of a raise there going to give us at work

DOM · Aug 4, 2006, 12:25 AM

and am i going to need a new HD?

Azn Tr14dZ · Aug 4, 2006, 12:31 AM

No, but you have to reinstall XP.

DOM · Aug 4, 2006, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Azn Tr14dZ

No, but you have to reinstall XP.

lol i think i still got that cd some where i think i hope i brought it with me when i move here need to look in the boxes if i dont need to call moms she better not have trashed it

DOM · Aug 4, 2006, 12:45 AM

so what happens if i dont reinstall xp cant find it

Azn Tr14dZ · Aug 4, 2006, 01:10 AM

It's not gonna be very stable...but for some it works ok. Depends on your luck

But it's best to re-install it.

DOM · Aug 4, 2006, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Azn Tr14dZ

It's not gonna be very stable...but for some it works ok. Depends on your luck

But it's best to re-install it.

well my moms looking if its back home. so could i like use a burned one or you cant make copy of it

Azn Tr14dZ · Aug 4, 2006, 01:17 AM

It's illegal to make a copy or give CD keys...

jph1589 · Aug 4, 2006, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

so what happens if i dont reinstall xp cant find it

You have to re-install XP. There are no other options. DO NOT try to do it without reinstalling XP!!!

In order to do that, you need YOUR CD and YOUR PRODUCT KEY. Also, after you do that you will have to activate it again. There is a 99.999% chance they will make you do it over the phone. Just tell them your motherboard fried and you had to replace it and reinstall and then tell then it isn't installed anywhere else. They will give you the code to type in and you will be set!!

DOM · Aug 5, 2006, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jph1589

You have to re-install XP. There are no other options. DO NOT try to do it without reinstalling XP!!!

In order to do that, you need YOUR CD and YOUR PRODUCT KEY. Also, after you do that you will have to activate it again. There is a 99.999% chance they will make you do it over the phone. Just tell them your motherboard fried and you had to replace it and reinstall and then tell then it isn't installed anywhere else. They will give you the code to type in and you will be set!!

WELL IT WAS NEVER FOUND

SO AM I GOING TO HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER ONE OR WILL SOMEONE SELL ME ONE ?

jph1589 · Aug 5, 2006, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E

WELL IT WAS NEVER FOUND

SO AM I GOING TO HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER ONE OR WILL SOMEONE SELL ME ONE ?

You don't want to buy a used copy. It causes too much hassle activating.

You also want to be careful buying oem copies. The dell copies don't include software that they don't need for dell systems (LIKE RAID DRIVERS). Who knows what else they exculde.

Get a retail full install copy and keep track of the cd and product key.

Aug 3, 2006, 01:47 AM	#1
DOM Eligible for custom title Join Date: May 2006 Location: TX, USA Posts: 6,507 (2.52/day) Thanks: 301 Thanked 812 Times in 720 Posts System Specs	looking for a cheap Motherboard just for the mean time I just want one thats cheap just untill i save some $ and get the better stuff when they come out. So i want to be able to OC my stuff but dont really know whats the best bang for my buck. if you need any more info. let me know Processor Intel Pentium 4 HT 520 2.80GHz (Prescott) LGA 775 Memory 1GBX2 PNY DDR2-533 PC4300

System Name:	Daily Rig/Bench Rig
Processor:	Intel i7 3770K/Intel i7 4770K
Motherboard:	ASUS Maximus V GENE/Msi Mpower MAX
Cooling:	Water/SS-LN2
Memory:	Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2x8GB)/Team Xtreem LV-2400 8GB (2x4GB)
Video Card:	EK Full WB 2X HD7970/To Many XD
CRT/LCD Model:	CROSSOVER 27Q LED-P 27"/Asus VE248H 24"
Case:	Danger Den Torture Rack/Table XD
Sound Card:	Onboard/None
PSU:	ENERMAX REVOLUTION85+ 1050W /CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200
Software:	W7 64Bit/XP/W7 64Bit

Aug 3, 2006, 01:57 AM	#2
jph1589 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 116 (0.05/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	INfo I have the ECS C19-A SLI. You can get it for about $75. It is a very stable board with new drivers recently released and 2 bios updates in the last month. The only big problem is that the pci express slots only run at x8 no matter if you have one or two graphics cards installed. According to some, that isn't a problem since the GPU can't push it above x8 anyway. I have no idea if that is correct. I have a P4 520J installed with 1gb 2x512 of Corsair VS DDR2 533. The FSB runs easily at 1000 and that puts my cpu at 3.5ghz. It runs perfect and fast. I am about to put a 550J into it just to get me by until the core 2 problems all shake out. I'd be glad to answer any questions you might have about it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...MP=OTC-yah00TT __________________ These aren't the drones you are looking for.... Last edited by jph1589; Aug 3, 2006 at 02:04 AM.

Processor:	P4 520J
Motherboard:	ECS C19-A SLI
Cooling:	Scythe Katana 775
Memory:	Corsair 2x512 DDR2 533
Video Card:	XFX 6600GT
Hard Disk:	Seagate 120 Sata Maxtor 100 IDE
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung Synchmaster731b
Case:	NZXT Nemesis
PSU:	Antec TPII 450
Software:	XP SP2

System Name:	Daily Rig/Bench Rig
Processor:	Intel i7 3770K/Intel i7 4770K
Motherboard:	ASUS Maximus V GENE/Msi Mpower MAX
Cooling:	Water/SS-LN2
Memory:	Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2x8GB)/Team Xtreem LV-2400 8GB (2x4GB)
Video Card:	EK Full WB 2X HD7970/To Many XD
CRT/LCD Model:	CROSSOVER 27Q LED-P 27"/Asus VE248H 24"
Case:	Danger Den Torture Rack/Table XD
Sound Card:	Onboard/None
PSU:	ENERMAX REVOLUTION85+ 1050W /CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200
Software:	W7 64Bit/XP/W7 64Bit

Aug 3, 2006, 02:08 AM	#3
DOM Eligible for custom title Join Date: May 2006 Location: TX, USA Posts: 6,507 (2.52/day) Thanks: 301 Thanked 812 Times in 720 Posts System Specs	so where did you buy it? can you over clock the ram? so is that bad that the pci-e only gets x8 ? so whould you know if there is other ones that would also a good choice?

Aug 3, 2006, 02:10 AM	#4
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.66/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	You can get it from newegg. X8 isn't bad because the 7950GX2 only takes up X6 BandWidth...

Processor:	AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Motherboard:	DFI LanParty nf4 Ultra-D
Cooling:	Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Memory:	2x512MB GeIL
Video Card:	ATI Radeon X800XL
Hard Disk:	2x80GB Western Digital
Optical Drive:	DVD +/- RW
CRT/LCD Model:	HP vs17
Case:	SuperTalent
Sound Card:	Soundblaster
PSU:	Ultra X-Finity 500 Watt

Aug 3, 2006, 02:12 AM	#5
i_am_mustang_man Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 1,349 (0.50/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 18 Times in 14 Posts System Specs	i have that sameboard in a rig i built to sell. it's probably the best price/performance ratio of sli 775 out there. my fsb and ram is a little weird because i have a celeron with a 23x multiplier, but it's not mine to figure out, i just looked. in the bios there are two separate places to oc: your cpu and then your ram. i can take my ram up from 533 to 667 or 800. it didn't change after i changed the clock on the cpu either, so i don't know what's exactly up, but there are a bunch of tweakable options

Processor:	AMD X2 AM2+
Memory:	2GB DDR2
Video Card:	7900gto
Hard Disk:	80GB+120GB 7200RPM IDE + 250GB SATA2 + 500GB SATA2
Optical Drive:	Lite-On DVD+-RW
CRT/LCD Model:	26" 1920x1200
Case:	Antec Nine Hundred
Sound Card:	OnBoard
PSU:	Ultra 600W with X-Connect
Software:	Vista Ultimate

Aug 3, 2006, 02:17 AM	#7
DOM Eligible for custom title Join Date: May 2006 Location: TX, USA Posts: 6,507 (2.52/day) Thanks: 301 Thanked 812 Times in 720 Posts System Specs	well i got to go to work, so if thats the cheapest thats the best or is there any other that good let me know. well i'll be on when i get home in the moring

Aug 3, 2006, 12:24 PM	#9
DOM Eligible for custom title Join Date: May 2006 Location: TX, USA Posts: 6,507 (2.52/day) Thanks: 301 Thanked 812 Times in 720 Posts System Specs	so these are two boards i ve been suggested Open Box: MSI P4N SLI-FITotal: $58.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813130362R ECS C19-A SLI Total: $84.12 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813135225 so does any one got any other suggestions? are the open box ones like bad ones that ppl sent back ?

Aug 3, 2006, 11:49 PM	#11
DOM Eligible for custom title Join Date: May 2006 Location: TX, USA Posts: 6,507 (2.52/day) Thanks: 301 Thanked 812 Times in 720 Posts System Specs	this is an open box or used right? http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merch..._Code=11026709 is newegg the only place to get anygood motherboards for cheap?

Aug 3, 2006, 11:59 PM	#12
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.66/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Newegg is the best place to buy, great customer service. Asus has a great motherboard too, the P5ND2 SLI: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131578 But the recent customer reviews aren't that great... If you're gonna get a new motherboard, you'll have to get a new case since they won't fit in Dell.

Aug 4, 2006, 12:14 AM	#14
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.66/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	I would go with the C19 SLI, mid-range, best bang for the buck, and really good reviews. Don't go with the MSI. Have you found a case you like yet?

Aug 4, 2006, 12:25 AM	#16
DOM Eligible for custom title Join Date: May 2006 Location: TX, USA Posts: 6,507 (2.52/day) Thanks: 301 Thanked 812 Times in 720 Posts System Specs	and am i going to need a new HD?

Aug 4, 2006, 12:31 AM	#17
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.66/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	No, but you have to reinstall XP.

Aug 4, 2006, 12:45 AM	#19
DOM Eligible for custom title Join Date: May 2006 Location: TX, USA Posts: 6,507 (2.52/day) Thanks: 301 Thanked 812 Times in 720 Posts System Specs	so what happens if i dont reinstall xp cant find it

Aug 4, 2006, 01:10 AM	#20
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.66/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	It's not gonna be very stable...but for some it works ok. Depends on your luck But it's best to re-install it.

Aug 4, 2006, 01:17 AM	#22
Azn Tr14dZ Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,415 (1.66/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 19 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	It's illegal to make a copy or give CD keys...

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