AMD FX 8150 Looks Core i7-980X and Core i7 2600K in the Eye: AMD Benchmarks - Page 23

sk · Oct 4, 2011, 02:49 AM

hello techp forums and peeps.
Heres an official bench, posted this weekend.

8150 is about 17 proc's down @ 8,600+
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

so im guessing the 8170 released down the road will be up to the Intel EX SB's.
not bad not bad,

this will be my 1st "personal" AMD build in 10yrs, but i've built alot for others...
i cant wait

Inceptor · Oct 4, 2011, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sk

so im guessing the 8170 released down the road will be up to the Intel EX SB's.
not bad not bad,

If the FX-8170 is 10% faster than the FX-8150, then yes, at stock speeds, it will probably be in the SB-E stock range. But somehow I doubt that the overclock performance will be any different than the FX-8150. They are both from the same processor line, after all. Unless the FX-8170 has an improved IMC...

eidairaman1 · Oct 4, 2011, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Inceptor

If the FX-8170 is 10% faster than the FX-8150, then yes, at stock speeds, it will probably be in the SB-E stock range. But somehow I doubt that the overclock performance will be any different than the FX-8150. They are both from the same processor line, after all. Unless the FX-8170 has an improved IMC...

Normally the fastest CPU is deved then the lower models are gained from it, so the IMC could be slower on the 8150 or clock speed could be slightly less cuz they cant obtain the clock speed they want etc

nt300 · Oct 4, 2011, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inceptor

If the FX-8170 is 10% faster than the FX-8150, then yes, at stock speeds, it will probably be in the SB-E stock range. But somehow I doubt that the overclock performance will be any different than the FX-8150. They are both from the same processor line, after all. Unless the FX-8170 has an improved IMC...

FX 8170 is based on Bulldozer, not Piledriver. Piledriver should use a different name such as FX 9150, 9170 etc....

LINK:
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/20887/...wn/result.html

YautjaLord · Oct 4, 2011, 04:05 PM

One thing bugs me, in all threads like that & in this one especially that there's no mention of something quite important for me (& i bet for some of you too): what revision are those? If rev. B2 - ace; if C0 - quite a dream.

Besides, it should be more important than whether to buy Dozer or wait for Piledriver: wait & buy rev. C0 FX-8150; unless PileDriver actually is rev. C0. If there is a slight chance there will be rev. C0 FX-8150 right or soon after rev. B2 - dream.

Inceptor · Oct 4, 2011, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nt300

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inceptor View Post
If the FX-8170 is 10% faster than the FX-8150, then yes, at stock speeds, it will probably be in the SB-E stock range. But somehow I doubt that the overclock performance will be any different than the FX-8150. They are both from the same processor line, after all. Unless the FX-8170 has an improved IMC...

FX 8170 is based on Bulldozer, not Piledriver. Piledriver should use a different name such as FX 9150, 9170 etc....

Yes, but we're talking about FX-8170 vs FX-8150, not Piledriver.
To link it to your line of thought, think about this: If Piledriver is going to be 10% faster than Bulldozer, which BD cpu are they talking about, the 8150 or 8170? Then link that to reports of the 8170 being either, 1) up to 10% faster than the 8150, or 2) simply 200Mhz faster than the 8150.
Either way, the purported Piledriver performance increase may be on top of the 8150-to-8170 purported performance increase.

Conjecture: FX-8150 + 200Mhz? + 10% performance = stock Piledriver?

[That would be ~16% stock performance increase over a stock FX-8150, if true.]

ensabrenoir · Oct 4, 2011, 05:38 PM

The estimate 10% increase over an unknown estimate .............. the 12 can't come fast enough

Ahhzz · Oct 4, 2011, 07:18 PM

My desire is the best bang for the buck, and without spending more than half a grand on a processor. My guess is that those numbers are neither spectacular enough, nor dismal enough, to be too far in the extreme, which puts them close enough to middle to suit me. So, the math is simple. For the price, the 'Dozer 8-core will be the best purchase. Put it on a Crosshair, and squeeze the trigger

eidairaman1 · Oct 4, 2011, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahhzz

My desire is the best bang for the buck, and without spending more than half a grand on a processor. My guess is that those numbers are neither spectacular enough, nor dismal enough, to be too far in the extreme, which puts them close enough to middle to suit me. So, the math is simple. For the price, the 'Dozer 8-core will be the best purchase. Put it on a Crosshair, and squeeze the trigger

Shoot any AM3+ Motherboard just about, I think U can get some really good numbers out of AsRock n GB, MSI I dunno

Super XP · Oct 4, 2011, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahhzz

My desire is the best bang for the buck, and without spending more than half a grand on a processor. My guess is that those numbers are neither spectacular enough, nor dismal enough, to be too far in the extreme, which puts them close enough to middle to suit me. So, the math is simple. For the price, the 'Dozer 8-core will be the best purchase. Put it on a Crosshair, and squeeze the trigger

That is what I am doing, getting a new setup ready for Rage, Skyrim and Diablo III

It includes the AMD FX 8150 with a Crosshair V Formula along with a nice 16GB of DDR3-1866 G-Skill RipJaw or what ever they call it

eidairaman1 · Oct 5, 2011, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super XP

That is what I am doing, getting a new setup ready for Rage, Skyrim and Diablo III

It includes the AMD FX 8150 with a Crosshair V Formula along with a nice 16GB of DDR3-1866 G-Skill RipJaw or what ever they call it

Max 7 HP 64bit supports is 16GB so Id say if you plan on more get Pro or Ultimate

HalfAHertz · Oct 5, 2011, 08:21 AM

Actually the big problem for AMD is not the performance gap but the fact that intel will focus on power reduction and not performance with ivy. So they'll try to offer a marginally better performance for half the power of BD/PD. And unless Glo Fo magically manages to catch up to intel's manufacturing process AMD has nothing in response...So for the sake of AMD i hope that BD can scale in power efficiency.

Ahhzz · Oct 5, 2011, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HalfAHertz

Actually the big problem for AMD is not the performance gap but the fact that intel will focus on power reduction and not performance with ivy. So they'll try to offer a marginally better performance for half the power of BD/PD. And unless Glo Fo magically manages to catch up to intel's manufacturing process AMD has nothing in response...So for the sake of AMD i hope that BD can scale in power efficiency.

For some people, they just want the raw clock speed, some prefer the performance per cost numbers, and some like the power efficiency. Personally, I don't care how much the draw is. I've got a Corsair enthusiast 750 waiting for it, and I'm not concerned. I don't particularly see AMD concerned that if they're not efficient enough, that people won't buy, but that's my opin...

nt300 · Oct 5, 2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Max 7 HP 64bit supports is 16GB so Id say if you plan on more get Pro or Ultimate

Socket AM3+ spports 32GB of Dual-Channel ram. Windows 7 x64 Ultimate supports a lot more than that.

TRWOV · Oct 5, 2011, 07:06 PM

Seven more days *weeeeee*

http://www.nordichardware.com/news/6...unch-date.html

http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Te...ober-12th-Shhh

eidairaman1 · Oct 6, 2011, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nt300

Socket AM3+ spports 32GB of Dual-Channel ram. Windows 7 x64 Ultimate supports a lot more than that.

Yes I know, it supports 192GB I believe, but to not be capped at 16GB you need Win 7 64 Pro or Ultimate

Mussels · Oct 6, 2011, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Yes I know, it supports 192GB I believe, but to not be capped at 16GB you need Win 7 64 Pro or Ultimate

buy technet = problem solved, multiple ultimate keys!

Super XP · Oct 6, 2011, 10:44 PM

Looking forward to the Bulldozer Launch!!!!

TRWOV · Oct 6, 2011, 11:01 PM

Looking forward to the Bulldozer Lunch!!!!

Sorry, had to.

6 more days!

ensabrenoir · Oct 6, 2011, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRWOV

Looking forward to the Bulldozer Lunch!!!!

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4...3944634000.jpg

Sorry, had to.

6 more days! :rock:

U had 2 have that one saved just waiting for someone to use that line

fullinfusion · Oct 6, 2011, 11:24 PM

Freakin EH!

Mussels · Oct 7, 2011, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRWOV

Looking forward to the Bulldozer Lunch!!!!

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4...3944634000.jpg

Sorry, had to.

6 more days!

you must have been saving that one up for a while...

Goodman · Oct 7, 2011, 06:37 AM

Found this article about Bulldozer...

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...ssors_detailed Oct 5 2011

Quote:

The FX-8150 and FX-8120 processors are part of the re-launched FX family of chips, which are pitched as high-performance parts aimed at gaming machines and other high-end systems. The FX chips are based on AMD's new Bulldozer architecture, which provides a speed boost of 50% or more compared to its predecessor, according to AMD.

Quote:

The chips will compete with Intel's high-end Core i7-990X Extreme Edition

But...

Quote:

AMD plans to launch the FX chips this quarter but can't yet give a specific date, said AMD spokesman Phil Hughes, who declined to comment further about the chips.

More wait?

mastrdrver · Oct 7, 2011, 06:52 AM

Googe Cache

Check the bottom of those slides. They say October 12th. Do you really think that AMD is going to commend on something that is under NDA? Reason demands a no answer.

Also note this image

Notice that the FX and i7 parts are switched from this slide

It appears as though someone took official slides and modified them so as to "look" official with the i7 being more on top.

eidairaman1 · Oct 7, 2011, 06:58 AM

Stop Worrying, they be out when they be out

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodman

Found this article about Bulldozer...

http://www.computerworld.com/s/artic...ssors_detailed Oct 5 2011

But...

More wait?

Oct 4, 2011, 02:49 AM	#551
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