HyperSLI (Enabling SLI on non-sli motherboards) - Page 13

Yimmeryams · Oct 27, 2011, 10:19 AM

Confirmation: Works correctly. Both cards performing in SLI at correct values.

Driver: 285.62
HyperSLI 0.6

GPU: GTX 460, GTX 460
CPU: AMD 1090T BE

Motherboard: Gigabyte 890FXA UD5 revision 2.0 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=3417#sp)

CPU-Z: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2067093

ThePOO · Oct 27, 2011, 12:55 PM

I currently use the SLIPatch 1.5b and 280.26 drivers (and the modded driver) ... works just fine.

I want to move over to HyperSLI and get the 285.62 drivers installed so I can play BF3.

I use Virtualbox and maintain many machines ... xp, vista, win 7, win 8, Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and Mac OS X ... my concern is whether HyperSLI will prevent my use of VB and my virtual machines?

Yimmeryams · Oct 27, 2011, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThePOO

I currently use the SLIPatch 1.5b and 280.26 drivers (and the modded driver) ... works just fine.

I want to move over to HyperSLI and get the 285.62 drivers installed so I can play BF3.

I use Virtualbox and maintain many machines ... xp, vista, win 7, win 8, Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and Mac OS X ... my concern is whether HyperSLI will prevent my use of VB and my virtual machines?

I started up my Mac OS X Virtual Machine I made a while back. My computer crashed, showing a blue screen.

Based on this, my guess is that in most cases, no, it will not work, because HyperSLI is using and hiding SVM and VT-x.

If there's a configuration setting in the virtual machine options to disable the use of SVM and VT-x, it may work. I'm going to try testing it more on Oracle Box. I'll update if I can or can't get it working.

NOTE: I'm guessing at everything and I don't actually know how these things work. Don't take my guesses as fact.

Edit: I couldn't find any settings to disable Virtualization and I couldn't get any machine to boot without bluescreening. Someone else may succeed where I failed; I'm not very experienced with virtual machines.

ThePOO · Oct 27, 2011, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anatolymik

BE AWARE. HyperSLI hide Virtualization Technology supporting. For example, CPU-Z utility never show VT-x for Intel processors and AMD-V for AMD processors under HyperSLI. This will be fixed in further versions.

Yeah, based on the above I figured it would not let us use virtual machines ... so I wait for a future release that can support them.

In the meantime, I'm in hopes that modded drivers are produced for the SLIPatch environment so I can update and play BF3 ....

N884Drytrip · Oct 28, 2011, 04:37 AM

Hey, just wanted to say thanks to Anatoly and crew. I was having problems with sli patch 1.5 when I would try to install the new nvidia drivers. It would give me some pretty bad flickering in some of my games. The new hyperSLI worked without a hitch. BF3 is playing much better. Keep doing what you do, Thanks again.

zerogravity · Oct 28, 2011, 07:52 PM

i didnt find solution with flickering..please help guys..without sli brigde it works fine but i have lower fps..Its a nasty fast blinking screen with all red colours..any clues?

I am using latest drivers 285.62 Win7 32bit on my 8800gt SLI and Rampage Formula..also HyperSLI 0.6

federicoz45 · Oct 28, 2011, 08:11 PM

Hi guys, I wish to ask a question to all of you.
I got my hands on a Club3D GTX 570 for almost free, and I know myself it will not rest in the box.
Now I have already a 570 SLI, but to go in 3-way SLI,will my Coolermaster Silent Pro M850 hold the kick? It has already 6 pci-e connectors so I assume it could handle it, but,
any suggestions and experiences are welcome!

johnspack · Oct 28, 2011, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerogravity

didnt find solution with flickering..please help guys..without sli brigde it works fine but i have lower fps..Its a nasty fast blinking screen with all red colours..any clues?

I am using latest drivers 285.62 Win7 32bit on my 8800gt SLI and Rampage Formula..also HyperSLI 0.6

That sounds like cpu virtualization is not enabled in your bios. Not sure if you have amd or intel, please list your specs so we can help you.

Slizzo · Oct 29, 2011, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by federicoz45

Hi guys, I wish to ask a question to all of you.
I got my hands on a Club3D GTX 570 for almost free, and I know myself it will not rest in the box.
Now I have already a 570 SLI, but to go in 3-way SLI,will my Coolermaster Silent Pro M850 hold the kick? It has already 6 pci-e connectors so I assume it could handle it, but,
any suggestions and experiences are welcome!

I would go with at least a 1200W PSU to handle tri-SLI...

N884Drytrip · Oct 31, 2011, 12:07 AM

Hey ZeroGravity, I dont know if it will work for you on your 8800 gt's but the nvidia 275.33 drivers were much more stable for me and I didnt have the flickering issues using those. After I Installed hyperSLI I was able to use the newwer drivers, but until u get it figured out you could try using the old drivers and see if it works

anatolymik · Oct 31, 2011, 10:15 AM

working on HyperSLI 0.7.
coming soon

there will be:
1) fixed bugs
2) Controls to Enable/Disable Hypervisor in any time
3) Option to automatic disable Hypervisor when Windows starts

steps 1 and 2 are to make Virtual Machines using possible under HyperSLI. Example winxp mode, virtualbox and so on

Wildfox · Nov 1, 2011, 11:11 AM

I wonder if it works on this GA-870A-UD3? Its not X-Fire or SLI certified but have 2 PCIE.

ga-870a-ud3rev_21

mb_manual-ga-870a-ud3_v.2.1_e.pdf

Max speed? both at 4x??? Bottlenecked??

Greeat JOB!

Yimmeryams · Nov 2, 2011, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildfox

I wonder if it works on this GA-870A-UD3? Its not X-Fire or SLI certified but have 2 PCIE.

ga-870a-ud3rev_21

mb_manual-ga-870a-ud3_v.2.1_e.pdf

Max speed? both at 4x??? Bottlenecked??

Greeat JOB!

I did a simple search on Google and came up with this thread: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/28...870a-crossfire

Though not officially supported, Crossfire supposedly works. This means that HyperSLI will most likely work, assuming the board supports virtualization, which I haven't looked up.

anatolymik · Nov 2, 2011, 03:02 PM

who like new modern control panel design?

juanchacin · Nov 2, 2011, 04:43 PM

In a few weeks i'll buy a Z68 board and I truly gonna miss this piece of software, the work of anatolymik y brilliant, however i'll keep track of this thread as long as exist.

Buschti · Nov 2, 2011, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anatolymik

who like new modern control panel design?

Looks good and nice we'll finally be able to diasble HyperVisor after boot

RiC@RDOC · Nov 2, 2011, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anatolymik

who like new modern control panel design?

Me likey

Izninjaftw · Nov 2, 2011, 10:00 PM

Does this cpu: AMD Athlon II X3 425 Rana 2.7GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cach...

support secure virtual machine? Also will hypersli work on the 870 chipset?

federicoz45 · Nov 2, 2011, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anatolymik

who like new modern control panel design?

Clean and functional, is what we need.

johnspack · Nov 3, 2011, 05:13 AM

The new owner of my P5Q Deluxe motherboard is going to love this!

Yimmeryams · Nov 3, 2011, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izninjaftw

Does this cpu: AMD Athlon II X3 425 Rana 2.7GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cach...

support secure virtual machine? Also will hypersli work on the 870 chipset?

Don't be lazy. Press "Details" and look yourself. I'll give you a hint. It's next to "Virtualization Technology Support".

As for if the 870 chipset working with HyperSLI, it depends on the board. Look for Crossfire support. Some boards support it, some don't, and some don't officially support it but still work.

Try a simple Google search and do some research on it.

anatolymik · Nov 3, 2011, 06:23 PM

New version.

1) Hypervisor controlling
2) EFI systems supported

See first message

Just push update button and reboot

ThePOO · Nov 3, 2011, 07:47 PM

HyperSLI 0.7 ....

so I can now install 285.62 drivers, install HyperSLI, run 2D Surround (3600x1920, 3 28" monitors), and can run Virtual Machines as well? or no?

I must use 2D Surround .. there's no way I can work and/or play without that. I can't tell what I do, sorry. But I -do- play games with the system as well ... BF3 is my current heartthrob ....

Anyway, is what I want asking too much, or will it all just run fine?

(oh, yeah, currently SLIPatch working fine, but looks like support has stopped for that and without 285.62 drivers, and modded files, I'm stuck)

RiC@RDOC · Nov 3, 2011, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anatolymik

New version.

1) Hypervisor controlling
2) EFI systems supported

See first message

Just push update button and reboot

Just tried it and when hypervisor is disabled, VT-x pops up in cpu-id so i suppose that virtualization is working again, the cool part is that even with hypervisor disabled and HyperSLI working in legacy mode i got no fliquering in games

Is that because the nvidia driver check is done apon boot?

Great job btw, simply awesome!!

anatolymik · Nov 3, 2011, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiC@RDOC

Just tried it and when hypervisor is disabled, VT-x pops up in cpu-id so i suppose that virtualization is working again, the cool part is that even with hypervisor disabled and HyperSLI working in legacy mode i got no fliquering in games

Is that because the nvidia driver check is done apon boot?

Great job btw, simply awesome!!

the driver does checks at boot time

Oct 27, 2011, 10:19 AM	#301
Yimmeryams Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Ohio, US Posts: 67 (0.12/day) Thanks: 7 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts System Specs	Confirmation: Works correctly. Both cards performing in SLI at correct values. Driver: 285.62 HyperSLI 0.6 GPU: GTX 460, GTX 460 CPU: AMD 1090T BE Motherboard: Gigabyte 890FXA UD5 revision 2.0 (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=3417#sp) CPU-Z: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2067093 Last edited by Yimmeryams; Oct 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM.

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Video Card:	Nvidia GTX 460 1GB, x2 SLI (Palit GeForce GTX 460 Sonic Platinum 1GB + MSI Hawk GeForce GTX 460 1GB)
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Oct 27, 2011, 12:55 PM	#302
ThePOO Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	HyperSLI and Virtualbox I currently use the SLIPatch 1.5b and 280.26 drivers (and the modded driver) ... works just fine. I want to move over to HyperSLI and get the 285.62 drivers installed so I can play BF3. I use Virtualbox and maintain many machines ... xp, vista, win 7, win 8, Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and Mac OS X ... my concern is whether HyperSLI will prevent my use of VB and my virtual machines?

Processor:	AMD Phenom II 1090T
Motherboard:	MSI 890FXA-GD70
Cooling:	Scythe Orochi Rev B
Memory:	4 Corsair CMX4GX3M1A1333C9 (16GB)
Video Card:	2 MSI GTX580 Frozr II/OC (Asus SLI Adapter)
Hard Disk:	4 Crucial RealSSD C300 in Raid-0 (1TB) & 2 Seagate ST2000DL003 6Gbps in Raid-0 (4TB)
Optical Drive:	Lite-On IHAS22406
CRT/LCD Model:	3 HannStar Hanns.G iF281 28" (2D Surround - 3600x1920)
Case:	Cooler Master HAF 932
PSU:	Cooler Master Silent Pro M 1000W
Software:	Window 7 Pro SP1
Benchmarks:	No overclocking here. My goal was fast, and extremely quiet. -- Achieved.

System Name:	Scoots
Processor:	AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @3.2GHz (Auto)
Motherboard:	NB: AMD 890FX + SB: AMD SB850 (Gigabyte GA-890FXA-UD5 rev. 2.0)
Cooling:	Air (ZALMAN CNPS10X Performa CPU Cooler)
Memory:	8GB (4x2GB) @1333 (G.SKILL ECO Series 2GB CL7D-4GBECO)
Video Card:	Nvidia GTX 460 1GB, x2 SLI (Palit GeForce GTX 460 Sonic Platinum 1GB + MSI Hawk GeForce GTX 460 1GB)
Hard Disk:	Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 7200 RPM WD1501FASS
Optical Drive:	DVD (LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer iHAS224-06)
CRT/LCD Model:	[1680x1050][1920x1080] (Primary: ASUS VH226H Black 21.5" 16:9 + Secondary: HP w2207 16:10)
Case:	COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP
PSU:	COOLER MASTER GX Series RS750-ACAAE3-US 750W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified
Software:	Win7 x64 (Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601))
Benchmarks:	Heaven Benchmark v2.5 Basic: 1578; DX11, 1920x1080, Fullscreen, High, Tess Normal

Oct 28, 2011, 04:37 AM	#305
N884Drytrip Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4 (0.01/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Hey, just wanted to say thanks to Anatoly and crew. I was having problems with sli patch 1.5 when I would try to install the new nvidia drivers. It would give me some pretty bad flickering in some of my games. The new hyperSLI worked without a hitch. BF3 is playing much better. Keep doing what you do, Thanks again.

Processor:	AMD Phenom II x6 1090T BE @ 3776 Mhz
Motherboard:	Asus M4a89td
Cooling:	Stock Fans
Memory:	8 gig Mushkin @ 1888 CAS 7/9/7
Video Card:	Nvidia gtx 460 (SLI) One is Palit One is MSI
Hard Disk:	WD Raptor 120GB / WD Caviar Black 1TB
Optical Drive:	ASUS DRW-24B1ST
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung px2370 60hz 1920x1080
Case:	Antec mid tower
Sound Card:	onboard 8 channel
PSU:	ABS Dark Beret series DB850-M-BRZ 850W
Software:	Win7 x64 Pro/ MSI afterburner / TurboVevo

Oct 28, 2011, 07:52 PM	#306
zerogravity Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i didnt find solution with flickering..please help guys..without sli brigde it works fine but i have lower fps..Its a nasty fast blinking screen with all red colours..any clues? I am using latest drivers 285.62 Win7 32bit on my 8800gt SLI and Rampage Formula..also HyperSLI 0.6

Oct 28, 2011, 08:11 PM	#307
federicoz45 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Italy - Versilia Posts: 121 (0.16/day) Thanks: 29 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts System Specs	Hi guys, I wish to ask a question to all of you. I got my hands on a Club3D GTX 570 for almost free, and I know myself it will not rest in the box. Now I have already a 570 SLI, but to go in 3-way SLI,will my Coolermaster Silent Pro M850 hold the kick? It has already 6 pci-e connectors so I assume it could handle it, but, any suggestions and experiences are welcome!

System Name:	Water Damage Inc.
Processor:	AMD Phenom X6 1090T
Motherboard:	Asus Crosshair IV Formula
Cooling:	Full watercooled EK W.B. - Aquacomputer Gmbh. CPU-MB-VGA
Memory:	Corsair XMS3 DDR 3 8gb 1600 Mhz
Video Card:	P.O.V. GTX 570 U.C. - EVGA GTX 570 S.C.
Hard Disk:	SSD vertex 2 64 Gb - SSD Agility 4 128 Gb
Optical Drive:	X
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Case:	Antec 1200
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	Silverstone 850Watt Strider+ Modular
Software:	Win7 x64 SP1 Ultimate
Benchmarks:	Time to upgrade to 680s....

Processor:	Core i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz
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Cooling:	Corsair H60
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Video Card:	EVGA GTX 680 SuperClocked
Hard Disk:	2x Samsung 830 128GB RAID-0, 750GB Samsung, 1.5TB Caviar Green, OCZ Vertex2 60GB
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Case:	Corsair Carbide 500R White
Sound Card:	X-Fi XtremeGamer
PSU:	CoolerMaster Gold Series 800W
Software:	Win 7 x64 Ultimate

Oct 31, 2011, 12:07 AM	#310
N884Drytrip Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4 (0.01/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Hey ZeroGravity, I dont know if it will work for you on your 8800 gt's but the nvidia 275.33 drivers were much more stable for me and I didnt have the flickering issues using those. After I Installed hyperSLI I was able to use the newwer drivers, but until u get it figured out you could try using the old drivers and see if it works

Oct 31, 2011, 10:15 AM	#311
anatolymik Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,420 (0.99/day) Thanks: 98 Thanked 781 Times in 306 Posts	working on HyperSLI 0.7. coming soon there will be: 1) fixed bugs 2) Controls to Enable/Disable Hypervisor in any time 3) Option to automatic disable Hypervisor when Windows starts steps 1 and 2 are to make Virtual Machines using possible under HyperSLI. Example winxp mode, virtualbox and so on __________________ HyperSLI 0.9 HyperSLI 0.96

Nov 1, 2011, 11:11 AM	#312
Wildfox Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Zaragoza Posts: 1 (0.00/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I wonder if it works on this GA-870A-UD3? Its not X-Fire or SLI certified but have 2 PCIE. ga-870a-ud3rev_21 mb_manual-ga-870a-ud3_v.2.1_e.pdf Max speed? both at 4x??? Bottlenecked?? Greeat JOB!

Processor:	AMD Phenom II X4 965
Motherboard:	GA-870A-UD3
Memory:	G.Skill F3-12800CL7
Video Card:	GTX 460 768MB
CRT/LCD Model:	22
PSU:	720W
Software:	Windows 7 x64

Nov 2, 2011, 03:02 PM	#314
anatolymik Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,420 (0.99/day) Thanks: 98 Thanked 781 Times in 306 Posts	control panel who like new modern control panel design? Attached Thumbnails __________________ HyperSLI 0.9 HyperSLI 0.96

Nov 2, 2011, 04:43 PM	#315
juanchacin Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Zulia, Venezuela Posts: 58 (0.05/day) Thanks: 36 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts System Specs	In a few weeks i'll buy a Z68 board and I truly gonna miss this piece of software, the work of anatolymik y brilliant, however i'll keep track of this thread as long as exist. __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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Nov 2, 2011, 10:00 PM	#318
Izninjaftw Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 5 (0.01/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Does this cpu: AMD Athlon II X3 425 Rana 2.7GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cach... support secure virtual machine? Also will hypersli work on the 870 chipset?

Nov 3, 2011, 05:13 AM	#320
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Nov 3, 2011, 06:23 PM	#322
anatolymik Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,420 (0.99/day) Thanks: 98 Thanked 781 Times in 306 Posts	New version. 1) Hypervisor controlling 2) EFI systems supported See first message Just push update button and reboot __________________ HyperSLI 0.9 HyperSLI 0.96

Nov 3, 2011, 07:47 PM	#323
ThePOO Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	HyperSLI 0.7 .... so I can now install 285.62 drivers, install HyperSLI, run 2D Surround (3600x1920, 3 28" monitors), and can run Virtual Machines as well? or no? I must use 2D Surround .. there's no way I can work and/or play without that. I can't tell what I do, sorry. But I -do- play games with the system as well ... BF3 is my current heartthrob .... Anyway, is what I want asking too much, or will it all just run fine? (oh, yeah, currently SLIPatch working fine, but looks like support has stopped for that and without 285.62 drivers, and modded files, I'm stuck)

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