ATI 5850 Bad BIOS Flash (ATIflash no adapter found) - Page 2

Frogger · Nov 3, 2011, 03:03 PM

pdf page 2 pin outs compare to picture in first post pdf see if you get it

unknown26man · Nov 3, 2011, 03:05 PM

you mean you hook up vcc to ce#

So it works the exact same way

When ATIFlash detects it when I've soldered them together do i then rip off the solder cable and the proceed with flash command or do i just keep the solder wire all the way through until bios is back up and running

Frogger · Nov 3, 2011, 03:11 PM

pretty easy

now how good are you with a iron?? too much hear will

the chip
if you have some dead boards around pratice

Frogger · Nov 3, 2011, 03:12 PM

"Before starting the flashing process I wiggled on
the cable and the pin 8 connection did come off and the chip could be accessed by the flashing program."

unknown26man · Nov 3, 2011, 03:13 PM

Dw i know someone really good at the soldering iron. Before I touch the card myself ill pratice on a old USB

unknown26man · Nov 3, 2011, 03:15 PM

Ok im ready to go then. It's 1.14am in my country right now so ill prob get about around 10am and start ironing. Ill let you know how it turns out thanks a lot for your help

Frogger · Nov 3, 2011, 03:18 PM

I use wire from an old IDE cable that has the ends per tinned with soder a good 5-10 watt iron all is needed is a touch to get it to hold to the pins & will pull off easy GOOD lick

unknown26man · Nov 3, 2011, 04:41 PM

I didnt even solder at all. I grabbed my 0.1mm 15m solder which i got for $1 on ebay. Then i put it through the pin leg then wrapped it round and i spun both sides together making sure it sticks up and doesnt touch any other parts. I then put it in my pc. ATI Flash found it. So I simply typed in the force flash command and then ripped my weakly wrapped cable off the bios chip and then flashed it via atitool dos. And guess what it worked like a charm.

Thankyou so much for your help i couldnt of done it without you. Thankyou for all of your support. Within 2 days my video card is back up and running from a bricked state.

Frogger · Nov 3, 2011, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown26man

I was being a nob.

GLAD YOU GOT IT Next time

don't be a NOB

unknown26man · Nov 3, 2011, 04:51 PM

I sent you a pm about a SSD Vertex 2 OCZ which is bricked because of a firmware bug from windows going to sleep

unknown26man · Nov 3, 2011, 05:41 PM

would you know how to flash a ssd thanks

Frogger · Nov 4, 2011, 01:13 PM

IF that's a big IF it's the eeprom you can try to reprogram it with the same method ,But prob won't work, you really need to remove the chip & use a programer.
with those ssd,s it could also be the sandforce chip =SOL

unknown26man · Nov 4, 2011, 01:19 PM

Yeah Im thinking if you have any ideas. May as well throw whatever at it and try and get it up and running again

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Altera-FP...item414f7d1933

This tool has same connections to put on the SSD if that helps you think of anything

unknown26man · Nov 4, 2011, 01:27 PM

It is just a bug that happened when windows woke up from sleep so maybe you could do a hard reset on the chip by wiring it somehow giving the SSD into a function state. Never know until you test it.

Temperature Chip information
P04SH
Y8Z8
F9910

unknown26man · Nov 4, 2011, 01:30 PM

BTW we are moving to http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...84#post2445784 for SSD. Further progress will be posted here on SSD

Frogger · Nov 4, 2011, 01:32 PM

"you can try to reprogram it with the same method " I would look up the data sheet for the chip
and giver a go wiht the wire. but use this http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...and-Ibis-SSD-s for the reprogram should work

unknown26man · Nov 4, 2011, 02:31 PM

yeah i gave that a go about a month ago but it still didnt work. cause bios cant even detect

anush3070 · Mar 11, 2012, 03:24 PM

Hey I tried the same steps My SPI is Pm25LV512.
Graphic Card is POWERCOLOR RADEON HD 5450 1GB DDR3 Graphics Card.
It does not boot with it, so I am using Integrated Graphics.
But When I tried that technique of connecting 1 and 8 point of the SPI, it still does not get detected in the ATIFLASH UTILITY. I tried atiflash utility from Dos and from Windows 7 DOS (BOTH) still cant get it working. Please HELP.

Corgo77 · Apr 7, 2012, 10:24 PM

Hello!

Could you please help me with flashing a Force3D 5850 please.
1. I could link the two legs of the PM25LV010.
2. Booting to DOS with uSB stick
3. Atiflash can see the card (see attached pic)
4. breaking the link
5. atiflash is not seeing the card anymore... flashing does not even start...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Frogger · Apr 8, 2012, 10:15 PM

From the looks of your pic you have the card in your primary vid slot, yes??
you need to have it in vid slot 2
you will need to boot the rig from another card as the main output. then run atiflash _ai if it can 'see' the card {without the pin mod} you might be able to flash it with the -f -p command , but most likely not you will prob have to do the mod
AS you can see from the pic[ins] your bios on the card is missing lots of data ie SSID, it also has the wrong romsize ect.
I will try to help if you need more

Corgo77 · Apr 8, 2012, 10:22 PM

Thanks Frogger!

So I am using an old S3 trio card in the PCI slot.

I have the bricked 5850 in PCIe Slot No. 2!
If I do not do the mod, atiflash does not see the card.
If I link the Pin1 and Pin8 of the chip, It can see the card... obvious with a bad rom flashed into it.
So now, how to move on? Because when I break the link , atiflash will stop recognising the card.

should I link PIn 3 to Pin8 instead?

Frogger · Apr 9, 2012, 04:38 AM

you might be right with the pin 3 Write protect
"Separate write enable and write disable instructions are provided for additional
data protection. Hardware data protection is provided via the WP pin to protect against inadvertent write attemptsto the status register."

if you connect 8&3 can aitflash 'see' the card to flash it?
If so I would leave the mod in place & try the flash if the reprogram is good you could remove the mod after the flash

if with the 8&3 mod you can't see the card you might have to do it three way 8+1+3 if you can then see the card you can try to:
1 break the soder at the pin 1 & see if you can still access the card to flash
OR
2 leave all 3 pins connected and try to flash
myself I would try 1 first
can you fill in your system specs [CP user] top of page .So I can sse your whole rig
Welcome to TECHPOWERUP!

Corgo77 · Apr 11, 2012, 10:11 AM

Pin3-8 were doing the job!

Thanks! My card works again ...

A friend of mine were happy to see my success, and Gave me his Powercolor 5850 pcs+ to repair.

I checked the bios is OK, but the card does not POST... any idea?

Frogger · Apr 11, 2012, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corgo77

Pin3-8 were doing the job!

Thanks! My card works again ...

A friend of mine were happy to see my success, and Gave me his Powercolor 5850 pcs+ to repair.

I checked the bios is OK, but the card does not POST... any idea?

glad to help

re: powercolor any info on how it went bad?
ie: overclocked to high , got dropped

ect.....or just stopped working LMK

Corgo77 · Apr 11, 2012, 07:43 PM

It was simply being used, but one day it did not start .. NO POST, no beep, nothing...
it is doing the same in my pc too...

No overclocking, but it is an OC card by the manufacturer you know...
Powercolor 5850 pcs+

One interesting thing I saw... there are white dots on the backside of the card...is it sign of overheat ... unfortunately it is over the 2 years of warranty period... no rma possible

System Name:	MONEY PIT
Processor:	i7-3770K @ 4800 1.20v batch #3231B415
Motherboard:	ASrock Z77 OC Formula w onboard waterblocks
Cooling:	Apogee HD, MCP655,rad MCR320-XP,Micro Rev2 res
Memory:	G,skill Trident X F3-2400C10D-16GTX
Video Card:	MSI R7970 PE @1150/1700 LIGHTING bios Wcooled
Hard Disk:	2x120gig Wildfire raid0 2x120gig VERTEX3 raid0
CRT/LCD Model:	eyefinity 3 Samsung2343bwx
Case:	NZXT Phantom White w/red
Sound Card:	ReCon3d fatal1ty pro, Logitech z906 THX
PSU:	corsair AX860i
Software:	64bit ++++ win 7

Nov 3, 2011, 03:11 PM	#28
Frogger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 1,930 (0.73/day) Thanks: 324 Thanked 241 Times in 215 Posts System Specs	pretty easy now how good are you with a iron?? too much hear will the chip if you have some dead boards around pratice __________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team,or some nuclear weapons,BUT at the very least you need a BEER!-Frank Zappa

System Name:	MONEY PIT
Processor:	i7-3770K @ 4800 1.20v batch #3231B415
Motherboard:	ASrock Z77 OC Formula w onboard waterblocks
Cooling:	Apogee HD, MCP655,rad MCR320-XP,Micro Rev2 res
Memory:	G,skill Trident X F3-2400C10D-16GTX
Video Card:	MSI R7970 PE @1150/1700 LIGHTING bios Wcooled
Hard Disk:	2x120gig Wildfire raid0 2x120gig VERTEX3 raid0
CRT/LCD Model:	eyefinity 3 Samsung2343bwx
Case:	NZXT Phantom White w/red
Sound Card:	ReCon3d fatal1ty pro, Logitech z906 THX
PSU:	corsair AX860i
Software:	64bit ++++ win 7

Nov 3, 2011, 03:12 PM	#29
Frogger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 1,930 (0.73/day) Thanks: 324 Thanked 241 Times in 215 Posts System Specs	"Before starting the flashing process I wiggled on the cable and the pin 8 connection did come off and the chip could be accessed by the flashing program." __________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team,or some nuclear weapons,BUT at the very least you need a BEER!-Frank Zappa

System Name:	MONEY PIT
Processor:	i7-3770K @ 4800 1.20v batch #3231B415
Motherboard:	ASrock Z77 OC Formula w onboard waterblocks
Cooling:	Apogee HD, MCP655,rad MCR320-XP,Micro Rev2 res
Memory:	G,skill Trident X F3-2400C10D-16GTX
Video Card:	MSI R7970 PE @1150/1700 LIGHTING bios Wcooled
Hard Disk:	2x120gig Wildfire raid0 2x120gig VERTEX3 raid0
CRT/LCD Model:	eyefinity 3 Samsung2343bwx
Case:	NZXT Phantom White w/red
Sound Card:	ReCon3d fatal1ty pro, Logitech z906 THX
PSU:	corsair AX860i
Software:	64bit ++++ win 7

Nov 3, 2011, 03:05 PM	#27
unknown26man Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 35 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	you mean you hook up vcc to ce# So it works the exact same way When ATIFlash detects it when I've soldered them together do i then rip off the solder cable and the proceed with flash command or do i just keep the solder wire all the way through until bios is back up and running

Nov 3, 2011, 03:13 PM	#30
unknown26man Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 35 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dw i know someone really good at the soldering iron. Before I touch the card myself ill pratice on a old USB

Nov 3, 2011, 03:15 PM	#31
unknown26man Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 35 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok im ready to go then. It's 1.14am in my country right now so ill prob get about around 10am and start ironing. Ill let you know how it turns out thanks a lot for your help

Nov 3, 2011, 03:18 PM	#32
Frogger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 1,930 (0.73/day) Thanks: 324 Thanked 241 Times in 215 Posts System Specs	I use wire from an old IDE cable that has the ends per tinned with soder a good 5-10 watt iron all is needed is a touch to get it to hold to the pins & will pull off easy GOOD lick __________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team,or some nuclear weapons,BUT at the very least you need a BEER!-Frank Zappa

Nov 3, 2011, 04:41 PM	#33
unknown26man Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 35 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I Fixed it bro I didnt even solder at all. I grabbed my 0.1mm 15m solder which i got for $1 on ebay. Then i put it through the pin leg then wrapped it round and i spun both sides together making sure it sticks up and doesnt touch any other parts. I then put it in my pc. ATI Flash found it. So I simply typed in the force flash command and then ripped my weakly wrapped cable off the bios chip and then flashed it via atitool dos. And guess what it worked like a charm. Thankyou so much for your help i couldnt of done it without you. Thankyou for all of your support. Within 2 days my video card is back up and running from a bricked state.

Nov 3, 2011, 04:51 PM	#35
unknown26man Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 35 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I sent you a pm about a SSD Vertex 2 OCZ which is bricked because of a firmware bug from windows going to sleep

Nov 3, 2011, 05:41 PM	#36
unknown26man Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 35 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	would you know how to flash a ssd thanks

Nov 4, 2011, 01:13 PM	#37
Frogger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 1,930 (0.73/day) Thanks: 324 Thanked 241 Times in 215 Posts System Specs	IF that's a big IF it's the eeprom you can try to reprogram it with the same method ,But prob won't work, you really need to remove the chip & use a programer. with those ssd,s it could also be the sandforce chip =SOL __________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team,or some nuclear weapons,BUT at the very least you need a BEER!-Frank Zappa

Nov 4, 2011, 01:19 PM	#38
unknown26man Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 35 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah Im thinking if you have any ideas. May as well throw whatever at it and try and get it up and running again http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Altera-FP...item414f7d1933 This tool has same connections to put on the SSD if that helps you think of anything

Nov 4, 2011, 01:27 PM	#39
unknown26man Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 35 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It is just a bug that happened when windows woke up from sleep so maybe you could do a hard reset on the chip by wiring it somehow giving the SSD into a function state. Never know until you test it. Temperature Chip information P04SH Y8Z8 F9910

Nov 4, 2011, 01:30 PM	#40
unknown26man Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 35 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	BTW we are moving to http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...84#post2445784 for SSD. Further progress will be posted here on SSD

Nov 4, 2011, 01:32 PM	#41
Frogger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 1,930 (0.73/day) Thanks: 324 Thanked 241 Times in 215 Posts System Specs	"you can try to reprogram it with the same method " I would look up the data sheet for the chip and giver a go wiht the wire. but use this http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...and-Ibis-SSD-s for the reprogram should work __________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team,or some nuclear weapons,BUT at the very least you need a BEER!-Frank Zappa

Nov 4, 2011, 02:31 PM	#42
unknown26man Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 35 (0.06/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yeah i gave that a go about a month ago but it still didnt work. cause bios cant even detect

Mar 11, 2012, 03:24 PM	#43
anush3070 Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4 (0.01/day) Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post System Specs	Hey I Cant get it working HELP. Hey I tried the same steps My SPI is Pm25LV512. Graphic Card is POWERCOLOR RADEON HD 5450 1GB DDR3 Graphics Card. It does not boot with it, so I am using Integrated Graphics. But When I tried that technique of connecting 1 and 8 point of the SPI, it still does not get detected in the ATIFLASH UTILITY. I tried atiflash utility from Dos and from Windows 7 DOS (BOTH) still cant get it working. Please HELP.

Processor:	AMD Phenom II X4 840 3.2Ghz
Motherboard:	ASUS M2N68-AM PLUS
Cooling:	Custom
Memory:	2Gig Transcend PC2-6400 & 1Gig Transcend PC2-5300
Video Card:	Powercolor ATI Radeon HD 5450 GDDR3 1GB
Hard Disk:	1TB Western Dgital Caviar Green
Optical Drive:	LG DVD-RW
CRT/LCD Model:	LG FLATRON W1643C
Case:	INTEX
Sound Card:	HD Onboard, Realtek Corp
PSU:	450Watts Smps
Software:	Windows 7 - 32bits

Apr 7, 2012, 10:24 PM	#44
Corgo77 Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 11 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	What am I doing wrong Hello! Could you please help me with flashing a Force3D 5850 please. 1. I could link the two legs of the PM25LV010. 2. Booting to DOS with uSB stick 3. Atiflash can see the card (see attached pic) 4. breaking the link 5. atiflash is not seeing the card anymore... flashing does not even start... Any help would be greatly appreciated. Attached Thumbnails

System Name:	SSpeeD
Processor:	i5-2500k
Motherboard:	Asus P8P67
Cooling:	Scythe Mugen 3
Memory:	8GB 1866MHz DDR3 RAM Crucial Ballistix Kit (2x4GB) CL9
Video Card:	HD5850 1Gb
Hard Disk:	Samsung 830 series SSD
Optical Drive:	ASUS DRW-24B3LT
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung 24"
Case:	Chiefteq
Sound Card:	onboard
PSU:	Corsair PSU-850TXV2EU 850W
Software:	Linux, Win7, Win8

Apr 8, 2012, 10:15 PM	#45
Frogger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 1,930 (0.73/day) Thanks: 324 Thanked 241 Times in 215 Posts System Specs	From the looks of your pic you have the card in your primary vid slot, yes?? you need to have it in vid slot 2 you will need to boot the rig from another card as the main output. then run atiflash _ai if it can 'see' the card {without the pin mod} you might be able to flash it with the -f -p command , but most likely not you will prob have to do the mod AS you can see from the pic[ins] your bios on the card is missing lots of data ie SSID, it also has the wrong romsize ect. I will try to help if you need more __________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team,or some nuclear weapons,BUT at the very least you need a BEER!-Frank Zappa

Apr 8, 2012, 10:22 PM	#46
Corgo77 Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 11 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Thanks Frogger! So I am using an old S3 trio card in the PCI slot. I have the bricked 5850 in PCIe Slot No. 2! If I do not do the mod, atiflash does not see the card. If I link the Pin1 and Pin8 of the chip, It can see the card... obvious with a bad rom flashed into it. So now, how to move on? Because when I break the link , atiflash will stop recognising the card. should I link PIn 3 to Pin8 instead?

Apr 9, 2012, 04:38 AM	#47
Frogger Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ONTARIO CANADA Posts: 1,930 (0.73/day) Thanks: 324 Thanked 241 Times in 215 Posts System Specs	you might be right with the pin 3 Write protect "Separate write enable and write disable instructions are provided for additional data protection. Hardware data protection is provided via the WP pin to protect against inadvertent write attemptsto the status register." if you connect 8&3 can aitflash 'see' the card to flash it? If so I would leave the mod in place & try the flash if the reprogram is good you could remove the mod after the flash if with the 8&3 mod you can't see the card you might have to do it three way 8+1+3 if you can then see the card you can try to: 1 break the soder at the pin 1 & see if you can still access the card to flash OR 2 leave all 3 pins connected and try to flash myself I would try 1 first can you fill in your system specs [CP user] top of page .So I can sse your whole rig Welcome to TECHPOWERUP! __________________ You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline-it helps if you have some kind of a football team,or some nuclear weapons,BUT at the very least you need a BEER!-Frank Zappa

Apr 11, 2012, 10:11 AM	#48
Corgo77 Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 11 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Pin3-8 were doing the job! Thanks! My card works again ... A friend of mine were happy to see my success, and Gave me his Powercolor 5850 pcs+ to repair. I checked the bios is OK, but the card does not POST... any idea?

Apr 11, 2012, 07:43 PM	#50
Corgo77 Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 11 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	It was simply being used, but one day it did not start .. NO POST, no beep, nothing... it is doing the same in my pc too... No overclocking, but it is an OC card by the manufacturer you know... Powercolor 5850 pcs+ One interesting thing I saw... there are white dots on the backside of the card...is it sign of overheat ... unfortunately it is over the 2 years of warranty period... no rma possible

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