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Old Nov 14, 2011, 12:43 PM   #26
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The only. Thing that impresses me is the Quad-Channel support having 64-bit per channel, something Bulldozer was suppose to be but AMD changed there mind last minute. Hope Piledriver gives these a good run to help drive prices down to reality.
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Old Nov 14, 2011, 12:44 PM   #27
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It was never supposed to see an improvement in games though.... Maybe in multi-GPU though
This is true, granted it's the games that aren't using the CPU's resources.
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It was never supposed to see an improvement in games though.... Maybe in multi-GPU though
Minor improvements for 3 way GTX580 SLi(E reads for excessive) over Core i7 990x, mostly same.

Worth 990$?

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Minor improvements for 3 way GTX580 SLi(E reads for excessive) over Core i7 990x, mostly same.

Worth 990$?

No
Why do you guys seem to always quote the extreme version for the "worth" argument? Is a Bugatti Veyron worth the 1.7 million euros to drop kids off at school? Is an i5 2500K worth it for grandma that never uses the comp and when she does it is to check the time? Is the i7 2600K worth the extra 100$ for gaming? The Extreme version is not for everyone, far from it

K answer me this now... What is a better buy... i7 3930K or i7 970? i7 3960X or the 990X?


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Still he'll change his test bench: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...11&postcount=7
With uncertain PCI-Express 3.0 support on Sandy Bridge-E, I think he is leaning more towards Ivy Bridge.
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Why do you guys seem to always quote the extreme version for the "worth" argument? Is a Bugatti Veyron worth the 1.7 million euros to drop kids off at school? Is an i5 2500K worth it for grandma that never uses the comp and when she does it is to check the time? Is the i7 2600K worth the extra 100$ for gaming? The Extreme version is not for everyone, far from it
Get out of here with your logic.
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Looks crap for games BUT isn't WOW very CPU dependent ( last i heard anyways ) and it does tend to shine there so maybe with games later on next year maybe see it boosting games still ?.

I would love to see a benchmark done with DCS games even more so KA-50 as they lean pretty heavy on the CPU.. Love to see how it does in Arma 2 or even Arma 3 when it's out too.
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No mention of USB 3.0? it just says usb 2.0
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The Xeon version supposedly to have 8 cores. True?
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Anyone who says this is another bulldozer somehow misses that chip still uses SB cores, and its no secret, never been one. So single threaded perf should be the same as 2600 +-, and it is. Noone expected IPC incereses like in bulldys case. I read those reviews and everything is just as i expected. Same as 2600 in single thread, eats competition in multi thread. And it has more pci-e lanes for those who want both multiple gpus and multiple pci-e ssds

And it is released only 10months after mainstream sb parts. Not 4 years after ; ).
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The only disappointment i see is the 2 disabled cores, other than that it is what it is supposed to be, sandy bridge with more cores and more memory channels.

I wonder when we will see the full fat 8 core chips in desktop form.
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No mention of USB 3.0? it just says usb 2.0
No problem. With our new Ivy Bridge Platform, you will get USB 3.0 just as low as $999. You will need to buy an Intel Ivy Bridge Processor, Ivy Bridge Chipset Motherboard, New set of RAM modules and probably a new power supply.

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Maybe I'm missing something...... it beats everything out there right now....so where is the fail. Sb was a beast 2 begin with this is a tweaked. 6 core sb. Maybe sb was too good to start with its hard to top now....but please no where close to being a bulldozer. My only reservation is wether to wait for the true x79 chipset
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Yep, major disappointment.

Anand has a review up

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5091/i...high-end-alive

Fuck you Intel
at there there is an improvement!

unlike Bulldozer

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This is true, granted it's the games that aren't using the CPU's resources.
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Hardware heaven tested Skyrim and MW3 and the new cpu showed a significant improvement with a gtx 590 over the old i7 980 and SB i7 2600.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...ew-skyrim.html

And BFBC2 does well with a 3960

http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...i7_3960/12.htm

I'm sure someone can pick faults but the only shit thing about this processor is it's price. Otherwise it is the best multi-purpose cpu out there. It's just the chipset that is a bit meh..
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Old Nov 14, 2011, 03:22 PM   #42
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Yup. Not just gamers, but pretty much anyone who doesn't encode videos for a living.
I wouldn`t be so radical. Here`s great review in Russian:
http://www.overclockers.ru/lab/44528...v_2D_i_3D.html.
Those new predators are 50% faster then i7-930. Gaming is not a living.
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Old Nov 14, 2011, 05:06 PM   #43
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The Xeon version supposedly to have 8 cores. True?
Yes, at least some of them.
The Xeon E5 family

Seeing some benchmarks with an EVGA SR-3 and 16 cores/32 threads at it's disposal should be fun.
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Upshot of this: all the cool kids whose parents buy them CPUs will be migrating to SB-E, which hopefully means I can get a second-hand 2500K + board to tide me over until Ivy Bridge. This QX9650 has served well, but it's showing its age.
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Yep, major disappointment.

Anand has a review up

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5091/i...high-end-alive

Fuck you Intel
lol... how is it a disappointment? It beats Sandy Bridge in every benchmark that actually matters for raw CPU performance. Sandy Bridge-e ISN'T a gaming CPU, its a workstation class/level processor, and it does "workstation" types of task's brilliantly.
The only con is that its not affordable by comparison to Sandy Bridge, but it isn't supposed to be either.

That are so many haters/one-minded people on these forums lately, its really hard to read a thread without getting irritated by ignorance.
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fuck intel, they make you believe they are going to take SB-E and add 2 cores to it and they did exactly that. WHY DO YOU KEEP YOUR PROMISES? WHY AREN'T YOU MORE LIKE BULLDOZER

ZOMG sucks, major fail like Bulldozer cuz it sucks in gaming except it is the best...

I do not see any contradictions /end sarcasm
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As expected. The most powerful desktop CPU in the world and it's little brother came to replace the 990X and it's little brother the i7-970 at the same price point (well a little higher prices since they have no competition whatsoever) offering better performance. That's all folks. The market for enthusiasts (this type of CPUs) is estimated by Intel themselves at roughly 1%.
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Upshot of this: all the cool kids whose parents buy them CPUs will be migrating to SB-E [..] This QX9650 has served well, but it's showing its age.
So your parents bought you a QX9650 (1k chip too iirc) and then you left home ?
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@N-Ster if they did a 2600k and added 2 cores it would not suck this much, we will have to wait for 2nd release of the 38XX/39XX chips to see anything decent.

I think both Intel with Sandy-e and AMD FX-8150 made a crucial jump but f'd their high end users and PL so expect Intel + AMD claiming major loses or low sales for the April tax year just to BS the IRS/TAX guys and then recover from it with Ivy bridge / AMD ?? processor .

Accounting wise Intel and AMD wrote the Sandy-e and FX-8150 off as a failure's by June 2011 already. Rigging products to fail is a normal here in the USA and is standard practice, everyone does it.

Ivy-bridge and the socket 1150 is the way to go and by that time / mid March 2012 they would have sorted out major software optimization programing and performance issues so choosing by that time would be ideal purchase time and then you can then get the updated / 2nd release AMD79** and NVidia 6** video cards.
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