PCI-X1 to PC1-X16 low profile 430 GT

$immond$ · Nov 19, 2011, 03:14 AM

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814187135

I am wondering if this card will work with my system:

-AMD 1055T X6 2.8Ghz
-8Gb DDR3 1600Mhz
-Zotac 890GXITX-A-E
-120Gb SSD Sandforce 3

My motherboard uses PCI-X1 and wondering if I use this adapter:

http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-E...5W?ref=prid-20

Would this work without a power adapter?:

http://www.startech.com/PCI-Express-...apter~PEX1TO16

Any suggestions would be great I really don't want buy a new mobo.

Suhidu · Nov 19, 2011, 03:25 AM

I wouldn't imagine it would need extra power, considering that if you cut off all pins on a PCI-X16 card that aren't present in an X1 slot and then place it into an X1 slot, it would work (just at a slower speed). These should work on the same principle, just without electronics surgery/cutting.

Here's a tPU article where they tested the performance effects of doing this. (granted, it was using a much higher-end card)

Also, I think the Amazon picture is mixed up with a PCIe X1 to PCI(non-express) model. (See an example here, and see the other pictures of red ones.) But the product should be fine.

Newegg also sells X1 cards.

newtekie1 · Nov 19, 2011, 03:30 AM

Forget the adapter. Just buy a normal x16 card and use a dremel.

Wile E · Nov 19, 2011, 04:16 AM

Or file your 1x slot so it is open ended.

newtekie1 · Nov 19, 2011, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

Or file your 1x slot so it is open ended.

His board has stuff behind the x1 slot blocking that.

Wile E · Nov 19, 2011, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtekie1

His board has stuff behind the x1 slot blocking that.

Yep. I see it now. Wow, that is a really dumb place for that cap.

newtekie1 · Nov 19, 2011, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

Yep. I see it now. Wow, that is a really dumb place for that cap.

Yeah and the BIOS chip, but when you are trying to fit everything into a miniITX design and still have to work around a 2 chip chipset, the fact that they even managed to get it to all fit is amazing.

BlackOmega · Nov 19, 2011, 05:57 AM

I'd imagine that you'd probably want more of a flexible 1x to 16x adapter. (Note: that's the first site that came up, I've never shopped there so I can't vouch for them, illustration purposes only).

puma99dk| · Nov 19, 2011, 06:55 AM

$imond$ u can go with the adaptor u find from Startech or go with a Flexible adaptor like BlackOmega links, i have used a PCI-Express x1 Flexible adaptor myself before i got my i5-2500k system myself for audio card it worked perfectly.

and for the rest, the PCI-E x1 to x16 adaptor is a nice touch for a GT430 most of them ain't as powerful even Sparkle has released a GT240 with PCI-E x1: http://www.techpowerup.com/130022/SP...ics-Cards.html

together with GT210 and GT220 but they don't have DX11 only 10 so if i was like having a low-bracket GT430 laying around myself i would have used the StarTech.com PCI Express X1 to X16 Low Profile Slot Extension Adapter (PEX1TO162) instead of a PCI-E x16 port ^^

$immond$ · Nov 19, 2011, 06:02 PM

Thank I kinda like the flex adapter I am just not sure how to hold it securely in place.

puma99dk| · Nov 19, 2011, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $immond$

Thank I kinda like the flex adapter I am just not sure how to hold it securely in place.

u should have a clear advantage bcs it's a low-bracket gfx, so hopefully there is space when u got the flex riser on so u can normally screw the card in place in ur case.

$immond$ · Nov 19, 2011, 07:28 PM

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/160629856078?...ht_1316wt_1257

I just bought this adapter I am going to place it right below my motherboard, I am using a full size tower so it should be be fine, I am using a Thermalrock eclipse so it should be fine with my ITX board. As for the video card I should be able to use something full size I know I will be bottlenecked by PC X1 but it sure beats integrated or typically overpriced PC X1 video cards.

(yea this a unique set up)

puma99dk| · Nov 19, 2011, 08:05 PM

u will also get PhysX and Cuda

even i doubt u got lag of decoding 1080p in h264/x264/ccv1 codec with that X6 processor

$immond$ · Nov 19, 2011, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puma99dk|

u will also get PhysX and Cuda

even i doubt u got lag of decoding 1080p in h264/x264/ccv1 codec with that X6 processor

I am not worried about decoding 1080p,

more less starcraft 2 performance and couple other games, I don't game heavily but I plan on upgrading my setup eventually so I will keep my card for my next mobo and cpu.

puma99dk| · Nov 20, 2011, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $immond$

I am not worried about decoding 1080p,

more less starcraft 2 performance and couple other games, I don't game heavily but I plan on upgrading my setup eventually so I will keep my card for my next mobo and cpu.

that was meant as a joke

but yeah good luck with ur GT430, i hope it will left u play Starcraft 2 and the other games u want.

$immond$ · Nov 20, 2011, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puma99dk|

that was meant as a joke

but yeah good luck with ur GT430, i hope it will left u play Starcraft 2 and the other games u want.

haha I missed that, I might be able to get a much faster card than the 430 GT, knowing I will be limited to PCIx1.

puma99dk| · Nov 20, 2011, 07:02 PM

u could try a 550 Ti or something and than use it, and yes limited it will be with pci-e x1 but when u get a another board with PCI-Express x16 it will be nice for the games u play ^^

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Suhidu Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 158 (0.19/day) Thanks: 9 Thanked 75 Times in 48 Posts	I wouldn't imagine it would need extra power, considering that if you cut off all pins on a PCI-X16 card that aren't present in an X1 slot and then place it into an X1 slot, it would work (just at a slower speed). These should work on the same principle, just without electronics surgery/cutting. Here's a tPU article where they tested the performance effects of doing this. (granted, it was using a much higher-end card) Also, I think the Amazon picture is mixed up with a PCIe X1 to PCI(non-express) model. (See an example here, and see the other pictures of red ones.) But the product should be fine. Newegg also sells X1 cards. Last edited by Suhidu; Nov 19, 2011 at 03:46 AM.

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$immond$ Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 392 (0.31/day) Thanks: 32 Thanked 23 Times in 20 Posts System Specs	Thank I kinda like the flex adapter I am just not sure how to hold it securely in place. __________________ I hate people that say "worth every penny" on reviews.

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$immond$ Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 392 (0.31/day) Thanks: 32 Thanked 23 Times in 20 Posts System Specs	http://www.ebay.ca/itm/160629856078?...ht_1316wt_1257 I just bought this adapter I am going to place it right below my motherboard, I am using a full size tower so it should be be fine, I am using a Thermalrock eclipse so it should be fine with my ITX board. As for the video card I should be able to use something full size I know I will be bottlenecked by PC X1 but it sure beats integrated or typically overpriced PC X1 video cards. (yea this a unique set up) __________________ I hate people that say "worth every penny" on reviews. Last edited by $immond$; Nov 19, 2011 at 07:38 PM.

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