Battlefield 3 illegal in Iran

[RuskiSnajper]

Originally Posted by entropy13

Agreed about this. The United States Army opted to lose, for the first time ever, a whole division (the Philippine Division, ostensibly numbered as the 12th) to the Japanese in the Philippines. The United States Marines also experienced their first losses ever in their history, in the various islands dotting the Pacific, as well as in the Philippines too.

The United States Government just let Pearl Harbor happen because they wanted to go to war against an "inconsequential" country like Japan, much like how 9/11 was precipitated only to go to war against the Taliban in an "inconsequential" country like Afghanistan.

Actually i worded that a bit wrong should i say ... the method was the same but it was done differently.

the nuke at perl harbor is now the war on terrorism
the japanese invasion is now the fake plane animation (computer graphics)

[entropy13]

Originally Posted by RuskiSnajper

Actually i worded that a bit wrong should i say ... the method was the same but it was done differently.

the nuke at perl harbor is now the war on terrorism
the japanese invasion is now the fake plane animation (computer graphics)

There were no "nukes" at Pearl Harbor. And how would an attack on Pearl Harbor be equivalent to the broader War on Terrorism? There were no "Japanese invasion" of Pearl Harbor too. That would only apply to everything to the west of the Hawaiian islands plus the Aleutian islands.

And besides, it is essentially a surprise attack. The "issue" with Pearl Harbor is not that it COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED in the first place, but rather the losses COULD HAVE BEEN MITIGATED. But then radio (and radar) are still essentially in their infancy as technologies used by military forces. In simpler terms, there would have been no way to avoid the "surprise" part in "deadly surprise attack", but there could have been things done to address the "deadly" part.

[RuskiSnajper]

Im saying the involvement of different means. It's about the pys methodology this is done, that is called false flag, it's a military operation you can read it in the army manual.

The way it's been done it's different.

They wanted to cause as many casualties and the effects of that. The whole point is to make the whole thing so much shocking, it's the psychological effect that follows, it depresses people, they are feared and they are complicit with the government.

You don't get this right:
They wanted the japanese to fire the first shot on the stationary planes... but the nuke wasn't the answer to that, the nuke was to test the nuke effects, they made up an excuse for it, the nuke tests were going on all over the places but never as weapon, it was planned before definitely, don't ask me how or why.

[assaulter_99]

Originally Posted by RuskiSnajper

You don't get this right:
They wanted the japanese to fire the first shot on the stationary planes... but the nuke wasn't the answer to that, the nuke was to test the nuke effects, they made up an excuse for it, the nuke tests were going on all over the places but never as weapon, it was planned before definitely, don't ask me how or why.

How do you know your theory is right? Thats a long shot man! Even though I too don't buy the BS media feed me, one thing for sure is that the US at the time wasn't the force it is now. By saying they let the japanese make the first step on purpose is a big disrespect to the japanese who at the time had, bar the UK, the best navy in WWII. They were one of the pioneers of carrier warfare, even the UK didn't have that many carriers.

The strike on Pearl harbor was one of the most cunning military strikes, total radio silence, diversions etc. (also helped by the declaration of war which was unintentionally handed to the US 30 minutes after the strike began, so absolutely no warning) A lot of mistakes were made by the US, first the commander which was lazy and disconnected with new warfare tactics. All the battleships bar the carriers were lined up nicely in port at Pearl that day (japanese subs had noticed that pattern from weeks before) The people in Washington (who you say used Pearl as bait) always thought that the first strike (negotiations were still ongoing to find a peaceful solution to the embargo) would come against Douglas McArthur's army in the Philippines. (he was preparing for defensive operations)

Yamamoto was a cunning man, he had everything planned but unluckily for him, the carriers he wanted so bad (which would have given the Japanese the total control of the Pacific) weren't at port that day. Luck... and if you know the rest of the WWII pacific story, luck was the most important factor in that campaign. (ok no disrespect too here, courage and crew experience with time on the US side) The japanese had the best aircraft (Zero at the time, US catched up later with F6F's/Corsairs/P51's), best Battleships (see Yamato) and attacked Pearl with 6 carriers and 2 battleships plus her escorts. How on earth do you defend against such a force? Radar at the time wasn't what it is now, no wonder radar stations picked up b17's instead of 100's of Zero's that day.

You simply don't give your central base in the Pacific just as bait, thats far fetched man. People tend to only think about Pearl harbor, but there's more than that in the Pacific. Giving up Pearl meant that you gave up on the Philippines, Alaska, Midway and important allied bases such as Singapore, Burma, Australia without even knowing that you'd ever get it back. I don't know how you see that, but in a military perspective, that's called suicide. Especially if lady luck was with the Japanese and they managed to sink these carriers and went on with Yamamoto's plan of grabbing maximum land before going for peace. (we all know that they then stalled at the Salomon Islands and New Guinea) How on earth these conspirators would have know all that is beyond imagination.

Also, you talk about nukes, you know that the first tests before Hiroshima was during the Manhattan project do you? All was just pure theory before (yeah the nazi's too had theories on that) Or else you would have bet on the Nazi's to have them before everyone else since they were so much more advanced (stuff like Vengeance rockets, Messerchmit 262's)

Enough for the history lesson but its just to tell ya to be more objective in what you read. Don't just go on conspiracy websites (which are mostly biased) and let yourself get brainwashed without knowing the facts first. Keep on open mind like I myself do (oh well, most of the time)

[dorsetknob]

QUOTE
They wanted the japanese to fire the first shot on the stationary planes... but the nuke wasn't the answer to that, the nuke was to test the nuke effects, they made up an excuse for it, the nuke tests were going on all over the places but never as weapon, it was planned before definitely, don't ask me how or why.
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google the trinity station nuclear test or to save you a couple of mouse clicks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_%28nuclear_test%29

you definitely need to attend some modern history lessons or to practice researching history

assaulter_99
Glad you were awake while you were at school and actualy learned some of modern history

RuskiSnajper
the Education system in your country seems to have badly let you down with regards to your education on recent history
Please at least do some proper research otherwise your leaving yourself wide open for people to rip apart your posts.

[erocker]

Get back on topic folks.

[AphexDreamer]

Why can't we all just get rid of the nukes, stop killing each other in the name of whoever for whatever and start getting along?

Too much to ask for huh?

The sheer appeal of killing in Video games gives somewhat of a testament that we humans take some sort of enjoyment out of shooting weapons and killing for more reasons than just necessity or what is "right".

If I were an Alien Race and I observed the Human Race, I'd keep far away. One glance at what we like to do for fun and I'd know that that violent race isn't ready for interstellar travel.

/end hippyness.

[RuskiSnajper]

Im hesitant to return to this topic for a third day now...

It's hard to pick sources and stay with is, it's deluted and it doesn't make sense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_in_education

Originally Posted by dorsetknob

QUOTE
They wanted the japanese to fire the first shot on the stationary planes... but the nuke wasn't the answer to that, the nuke was to test the nuke effects, they made up an excuse for it, the nuke tests were going on all over the places but never as weapon, it was planned before definitely, don't ask me how or why.
Unquote

google the trinity station nuclear test or to save you a couple of mouse clicks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_%28nuclear_test%29

you definitely need to attend some modern history lessons or to practice researching history

assaulter_99
Glad you were awake while you were at school and actualy learned some of modern history

RuskiSnajper
the Education system in your country seems to have badly let you down with regards to your education on recent history
Please at least do some proper research otherwise your leaving yourself wide open for people to rip apart your posts.

I never said i believed it 100%, i said what i think i know is the closest call.

By the way - the school history books probably is the worste soruce you can drive off.

Funny irony stuff like this exists for years:

It's an idea - anything can be taken by grain of salt, nothing is 100%.

For example on the idea of "cover up", make up your mind what you think why WTC7 also went down that day. What offices were inside WTC7. I smell destruction of evidence.

Game developers just tend to hogg onto these big issue topics, the views which are distorted by misinformation.

Why the heck would i be making a game with the questionable topics - it would be a bad idea to try to explain something (external pressure) but also i don't want to deal with this depressing material for life so those "game designers" who make these war-riden stories i think are just bored and have nothing else to do then make a game about it because they seen so much of it on fox news.

That's so riden by influence i think it anybody could come up with stories like mw and bf3 campaign is, just watch a few of those jersey shore military shows on (increasingly distrustive) discovery channel, some fox news, and you're ready to go.

The other option is, some of the stories might be parodies ... but that's a terrible way to waste your time and life on something like this.

Hopefully Respawn's game is fictional, so they don't need to come up with 10 different version of "potential terrorists" or in other words "everyone with a long beard".

[AphexDreamer]

Originally Posted by RuskiSnajper

For example on the idea of "cover up", make up your mind what you think why WTC7 also went down that day. What offices were inside WTC7. I smell destruction of evidence.

I guess if they want to start demolishing buildings they should just start small pockets of fire on a few floors. Worked like a charm for the WTC7 building. Perfect demolition, without the cost of any real demolition tools.

[Hayder_Master]

I guess everybody know COD4 and over versions are illegal too in syria.

[Chevalr1c]

That does not sound weird, given the fact that CoD is similar (AFAIK) to Battlefield and given the western (tunnel) view on the Middle Eastern matter.
And Syria is screwed at the moment with dictator-controlled police and army forces shoorting at protesting people, according to the news.

[entropy13]

If you want to continue the discussion RuskiSnajper, go and register at generalnonsense.net. You could give mtosev (your fellow Slovenian) some company there too.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by Chevalr1c

BP is from Malta. Malta is a European country. So you shouldn't tell her to use US-English spelling guidelines. Hence her (and my) use of the setting "EN-GB" in our spelling checker, which you could have used as well in order to check whether it was just a matter of using a different variety of English (and revert to your EN-US default afterwards). Most Europeans follow the GB-English guidelines. I think it is about time that you learn that the English of your nation is different than in Europe, Australia etc. Heck, you guys from the US even pronounce the letter "z" as zee while a lot of Europeans (I don't know about the Aussies in this case) pronounce it like zet.

Still on a primarily US based forum. If you notice all of the review section uses a US dictionary, w1z himself is in Germany and yet uses the US spellings...

[Chevalr1c]

Even though that it is true what you say, the rules of the forums never implied (AFAIK) that you must use the US spelling. As long as one is consistent and chooses for either the UK or the US variety and not both at once, that person's writings should be fine.

[digibucc]

yeah it has nothing to do with standards or where the forum is based: if you are on the internet, and you just can't help but correct someone's spelling - make sure you're right before doing it. that's all

[Hayder_Master]

Still remember also something crazy, in year 2000 i was play USAF, LOL that was not just illegal, if they was know i play it i should be dead right now even my family too, LOL that was really crazy moving and i finish it three times , . I love it and competed also on vaitren.
Last time i play it in a war of 2003, USAF real atack from the sky, and i attack too in my PC.

[Fx]

Originally Posted by RuskiSnajper

One thing Ahmadinjead was 100% correct is that indeed 911 was an inside job. Whether this is his opinion through logical assesment or a planned drama-increaser (as the reason for the walk-out, problem-reaction-solution) we might never know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4phNuwx8Hs

you are damn right it was. there is too much evidence to say otherwise. people cant grasp it because they cant believe their government could actually be worse than what they see in a movie