AMD Dual-GPU Radeon HD 7990 to Launch in Q1 2012, Packs 6 GB Memory - Page 2

phanbuey · Dec 23, 2011, 03:49 PM

Nice... Kepler needs to show up and push these ridonkeylous prices.

dieterd · Dec 23, 2011, 03:54 PM

eh, 1000$ mark cracked like nothing and I dont think that Nvidia will be the one who will compete with pricing. but i see none of you really care about prices, so Merry X-mass - I hope that we all will get only cash under X-mass tree, because the 28-nm generation started wit lota appetite for it!

the54thvoid · Dec 23, 2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

That thing will cost more then a super charger on my 4.6 Mustang. Ill pass.

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Originally Posted by Trackr

Besides, they will have to make the price competitive to stay above the HD 6990, so the extra RAM likely won't mean a higher price.

Yeah, price. If the 7970 is going to be £450, the dual card will be prohibitively expensive. I simply cannot justify buying a card that costs £700 plus (which surely it will be?) even though I've bought a £480 cpu.

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Originally Posted by claylomax

Metro 2033, Stalker CoP, Crysis 2, Cryostasis, Battlefield 3, etc ... they max out 1.5GB playing at 1900 x 1200 with 4xAA on my system.

Is that a Vista thing? I run BF3 at max AA at that res and it doesn't go over that.

TheMailMan78 · Dec 23, 2011, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by the54thvoid

Yeah, price. If the 7970 is going to be £450, the dual card will be prohibitively expensive. I simply cannot justify buying a card that costs £700 plus (which surely it will be?) even though I've bought a £480 cpu.

Is that a Vista thing? I run BF3 at max AA at that res and it doesn't go over that.

It doesnt go over that because thats all you have.

the54thvoid · Dec 23, 2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

It doesnt go over that because thats all you have.

I use afterburner and see the mem usage on my g19 in game. It doesn't come as close to that. Most I've seen in game (Metro 2003 i think) was 1400 or something. I'm aware my gfx card is 1.5GB.

In fact , I'll go check now

TheMailMan78 · Dec 23, 2011, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by the54thvoid

I use afterburner and see the mem usage on my g19 in game. It doesn't come as close to that. Most I've seen in game (Metro 2003 i think) was 1400 or something. I'm aware my gfx card is 1.5GB.

In fact , I'll go check now

How many displays?

Crap Daddy · Dec 23, 2011, 04:25 PM

BF3 and I think all these games that need lots of VRAM use all that's available so on my card BF3 all maxed out shows 1260 something MB used so if I had more it would use more.

dorsetknob · Dec 23, 2011, 04:26 PM

Its an incestuous relationship between hardware manufacturer's and the software houses
manufacturer's bring equipment to the market
software houses write software that pushes the hardware to the limit
so manufacturer's revise and improve their hardware
we all upgrade to the new and latest spec hardware and so the software houses produce more demanding software to take advantage ect on on and on the cycle goes on

the54thvoid · Dec 23, 2011, 04:27 PM

Just one. Just checked. I'm getting 1463MB of usage with ultra, settings, 4xMSAA and 16 AF. Motion Blur and Ambient Occlusion off. And that was in a firefight.

Would it climb to 1536MB if fully used or is there some left as buffer, i.e. is tha my card being maxed?

Mistral · Dec 23, 2011, 05:45 PM

I can just imagine some people trying to play with that card on Windows XP

Though Photoshop will surely love the obscene amount of memory...

Dj-ElectriC · Dec 23, 2011, 05:53 PM

I don't like the whole dual-gpu memory amount marketing...
Becuase its simply half true. They can market it just becuase the chips are there
but people might think they can use up to 6GB of VRAM

TheMailMan78 · Dec 23, 2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by the54thvoid

Just one. Just checked. I'm getting 1463MB of usage with ultra, settings, 4xMSAA and 16 AF. Motion Blur and Ambient Occlusion off. And that was in a firefight.

Would it climb to 1536MB if fully used or is there some left as buffer, i.e. is tha my card being maxed?

Run three monitors with that 1.5 GB of memory.

Its hardly pushing one now as you just saw.

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Originally Posted by Mistral

I can just imagine some people trying to play with that card on Windows XP

Though Photoshop will surely love the obscene amount of memory...

It will make no difference in Photoshop. Photoshop uses Open GL. Different ballgame all together. Most IGP's is all Photoshop needs for its draw.

the54thvoid · Dec 23, 2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Run three monitors with that 1.5 GB of memory.

Its hardly pushing one now as you just saw.

Nvidia, three monitors? Maybe they'll sort that out by Kepler?

(I know some AIB's have done it...)

NdMk2o1o · Dec 23, 2011, 06:53 PM

Am I right in saying the recent benches with 7970 were between 20-30% faster than GTX 580?
I would expect the performance to increase by at least 10% across the board with mature drivers meaning 30-40% faster on all counts than a GTX 580.
Slap 2 of these chips together without lowering core clocks and shaders etc a'la GTX 590 and this dual GPU card should be a monster and stomp the 590 by a LOT

radrok · Dec 23, 2011, 06:55 PM

Should also run very very cool compared to the HD 6990, hell sometimes the top GPU runs at 92C -.-

Super XP · Dec 23, 2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ensabrenoir

90% of out rigs arent fully utilized/overkill.... This will fit right in. we all need to push for better software though

Software is greatly holding back hardware. Something needs to change, something in terms of a nice kick in the aris for those software developers to step it up a notch.

This card is nuts

radrok · Dec 23, 2011, 07:35 PM

That's not entirely true, it's because the resolution standard is stuck at 1080p, once your go over you have the need for such graphics cards.

Dent1 · Dec 23, 2011, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorsetknob

Its an incestuous relationship between hardware manufacturer's and the software houses
manufacturer's bring equipment to the market
software houses write software that pushes the hardware to the limit
so manufacturer's revise and improve their hardware
we all upgrade to the new and latest spec hardware and so the software houses produce more demanding software to take advantage ect on on and on the cycle goes on

I disagree, it's the opposte, it's because software isnt optimised for the hardware, so the hardware is unefficient and hence runs the software with pure brute force.

If what you said was correct, why can a sub $100 CPU and sub $150 GPU run any game today at max settings?

pantherx12 · Dec 23, 2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet Wafer

Finally, 8192x shadows in Skyrim are possible without major lag!

Ha ha not whilst the shadows are run by the cpu!

NdMk2o1o · Dec 23, 2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dent1

If what you said was correct, why can a sub $100 CPU and sub $150 GPU run any game today at max settings?

BF:3, Metro 2033, Skyrim can all be run on max with sub $100 CPU and sub $150 GPU? I think not, there are a few more though not many so we are at a transition period whereby the game devs need to start making more games like the aforementioned to take advantage of the current hardware, though your statement is untrue, the mid range can't max the top games, least not the few I mentioned and others. There will be another Farcry/Crysis/Metro 2033 out soon enough and so it continues.

Super XP · Dec 23, 2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by radrok

That's not entirely true, it's because the resolution standard is stuck at 1080p, once your go over you have the need for such graphics cards.

Absolutely not, I got an 8-Core CPU running at 4.40GHz and a HD 6970 and I still cannot run games like Skyrim and Metro 2033 at MAX PQ.
Like somebody already said, the software needs to catch up to the hardware. Anybody claiming otherwise is gaming too much in their sleep.

Dent1 · Dec 23, 2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o

BF:3, Metro 2033, Skyrim can all be run on max with sub $100 CPU and sub $150 GPU? I think not, there are a few more though not many so we are at a transition period whereby the game devs need to start making more games like the aforementioned to take advantage of the current hardware, though your statement is untrue, the mid range can't max the top games, least not the few I mentioned and others. There will be another Farcry/Crysis/Metro 2033 out soon enough and so it continues.

Well yes. Bought my CPU over 2 years ago for £75. Bought my GPU for £79.99, actually bought two for CF. Runs all those games max settings no problem. Friend has same setup with larger monitor still runs maxed out.

pantherx12 · Dec 23, 2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

Absolutely not, I got an 8-Core CPU running at 4.40GHz and a HD 6970 and I still cannot run games like Skyrim and Metro 2033 at MAX PQ.
Like somebody already said, the software needs to catch up to the hardware. Anybody claiming otherwise is gaming too much in their sleep.

Should get the new SKSE performance plugin dude, will be able to max out skyrim easily

( I can max it out and then some and I'm at 4.3 and using a 6870)

mechtech · Dec 23, 2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Esse

There's my little country

You're telling me, the province of Ontario is larger than that land mass.

And I am more interested to see the 7850!!!

Super XP · Dec 23, 2011, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pantherx12

Should get the new SKSE performance plugin dude, will be able to max out skyrim easily

( I can max it out and then some and I'm at 4.3 and using a 6870)

Where we get this bro

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