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Old Oct 21, 2007, 12:22 PM   #1301
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trt what batch is your Q6600?
BTW be carefull with that Vcore..
It will bench a 4.05ghz at 1.55v and at the higher voltage the temps stay in safe range.I'm not using it at these speeds just benching.

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Old Oct 21, 2007, 06:27 PM   #1302
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It will bench a 4.50ghz at 1.55v and at the higher voltage the temps stay in safe range.I'm not using it at these speeds just benching.
Lol 4.05 or 4.50 Gig? But you have confused me on one thing, how can a quad with less Mhz possibly be quicker than a C2D with more Mhz on ANY app that is not enhanced for more than 2 cores?
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Old Oct 21, 2007, 06:38 PM   #1303
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it can`t...
it can



there are more synthetic benchies that show a lead for the Q6600 but i figure RW gaming is the best proof



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Quake 4 supports only dual-core processors. True, Core 2 Duo E6850 with higher clock frequency defeats the competing quad-core solution. However, overclocking changes the situation dramatically. Although overclocked Core 2 Duo E6850 works at a little higher frequency than the overclocked Core 2 Quad Q6600, it is the quad-core CPU that wins here. The determinative factor in this case is the two L2 caches with the total capacity of 8MB.

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F.E.A.R. is actually a single-thread game. Nevertheless, the overclocked to 3.6GHz Core 2 Quad Q6600 is considerably faster than the dual-core Core 2 Duo E6850 working at 3.85GHz. This time the graphics driver optimizations played a crucial role.

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Another single-threaded game, Company of Heroes, finally lets the dual-core processor to take the lead in nominal and overclocked work modes.

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However, the picture changes to just the opposite in Supreme Commander. No wonder, since this game is practically the only one in the market today that supports quad-core processors. That is why Core 2 Quad Q6600 leads the race even without any overclocking.
LOOK AT THIS!!!

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UPDATE: However, you can make Lost Planet: Extreme Condition game work on quad-core processors, too, where there are four threads created. There is an option called “Concurrent Operations” in the Options menu. By changing it from 2 to 4 you can obtain even more impressive results on Core 2 Quad Q6600.

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Old Oct 21, 2007, 07:59 PM   #1305
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you missed the point here....
we are talking about 1 core programs (like super pi)...
a 6850 @ 3600mhz hasn`t got the slightest disadvantage from a Q6600 @ 3600mhz..
they perform the same as they both have 4mb L2 cache..
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Old Oct 21, 2007, 09:18 PM   #1306
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Lol I wish I had not made that comment now, in the benches you have shown, the couple that have the biggest differences, Quake4, PC Mark 2005 and lost planet are multithredded i beleive? so they dont really count but TBH I can see some differences in the others which pleasantly surprises me although that cant be L2 cache as the cache is tied to the cores?????? which means if only 1 core is being used you can only have 2MB of cache working, not sure about that one, anyone know?
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Ohhhh and just checked, Supreme commander and Company of heroes (patched) are also multithredded mefinks?
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Well It does have double the onboard memory and of course a program written for 2 core will be faster on a dual core when it is clocked faster, however it will be close in this case, but the reverse will also be true and in that case it will not be close at all the quad will kill a dual even if you could double the dual cores speed . Also my chip at 3.7ghz 24/7 will match your 3.8ghz 24/7 because of more on chip memory so as I see it in the real world you lose Tatty in this bench you might win but even then I haven't seen you beat my quads score yet.

On another topic Hey Tatty why are you following every one of my posts and saying something negative. It getting old. yes you have a geat chip it is better than mine in this bench. I got the point. Why are you shooting me down from 3dmark06 , to super pI thread , to any post I make. Yes It is true I upgrade alot, yes it is true I like to tweak my computer,It's my only hobby, give me a break. How about something positive Like hey TrT thats the fastest Quad clock on the forum or hey what a bench, say something positive.

Sorry.........nice score and nice overclock
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although that cant be L2 cache as the cache is tied to the cores?????? which means if only 1 core is being used you can only have 2MB of cache working, not sure about that one, anyone know?
from the ss,i believe you`ll understand..from a C2D..

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you missed the point here....
we are talking about 1 core programs (like super pi)...
a 6850 @ 3600mhz hasn`t got the slightest disadvantage from a Q6600 @ 3600mhz..
they perform the same as they both have 4mb L2 cache..
Okay I will turn off two core and run it as a e6850 lowering the heat and voltage needed matching your Cpu's. Then turn them back on when a newer program comes along. The problem you have is you can't add two cores but I can turn two off. I'm going to use your trick giorgos th
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Okay I will turn off two core and run it as a e6850 lowering the heat and voltage needed matching your Cpu's. Then turn them back on when a newer program comes along. The problem you have is you can't add two cores but I can turn two off. I'm going to use your trick giorgos th
Try disabling 3, then run SuperPi, damn I bet it will fly at that!
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from the ss,i believe you`ll understand..from a C2D..

Yup thanks, so L2 Cache in particular is not associated with a single core....it is on die and available to all/any that explains the non multi thredded benches where there is a slight improvement.
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Thought I'd share my newest results with my latest CPU, an Opteron 1216 Santa Ana @ 3.049GHz with Memory running @ 5-5-5-16 2T 1016MHz speed :



Not too shabby for a CPU that I paid just $75 USD for. Ultimately trying for at least #2 or #3 AMD score as there is no way in hell I'm beating TRT's top score with just air cooling!
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I am still in 3rd AMD places from years ago! Best you dont beat my old 4000+ score
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MY 6000+ IS STILL IN FIRST WOW!!!!
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I am still in 3rd AMD places from years ago! Best you dont beat my old 4000+ score
I don't think you have much to worry about, at least any time soon. I like doing this sort of thing as a hobby when time permits but lately, I've had very little of that to go around. As I mentioned, it is a hobby but it's also not something that drives me, so to speak and I don't usualy feel any pressing need to break any records, have the best equipment or OC the hell out of whatever is on hand.

I have a small set budget, roughly $750ish for a complete build or per year, whichever, for my computer needs and I try to make the best of it. My current system cost me a shade under $700 USD for the entire build and that was roughly a month and a half ago and I'm quite happy with what I got for my money. That and I am not about to go out and buy liquid cooling or whatever just so I can get better OC's or a greater shot at reaching records like that of SuperPi, for example. Just not my cup of tea, so to speak...
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MY 6000+ IS STILL IN FIRST WOW!!!!
Yup.....still going strong but you have to remember....that was a newer generation chip to the 4000+ so I am still happy!
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Yup.....still going strong but you have to remember....that was a newer generation chip to the 4000+ so I am still happy!
When you going to super pi you e6850 at 4.3ghz?
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When you going to super pi you e6850 at 4.3ghz?
I'll give it a go tonight when I get home, it's chilly in these parts so probably a good time to do it!
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I'll give it a go tonight when I get home, it's chilly in these parts so probably a good time to do it!
well where is that bench bro
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well where is that bench bro
where's you benches with your Q6600 trt?
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