$48.99 Samsung 30nm DDR3 1600 hitting 2133?!? - Page 8

Paulieg · Feb 11, 2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrigleyvillain

So this MemTweakiT can be used on non-Asus boards?

It can be used to display timings in windows, but it will not allow you to make adjustments, at least not on Asrock boards.

revin · Feb 12, 2012, 12:42 AM

1.4875v Comp'd to Mushkin 2133

kenkickr · Feb 12, 2012, 02:54 PM

I have tried both the 1866 and 2133 settings, with each just each set, and individually; to no avail. For now I'm running 7-7-7-24 @ 1.54v which I can't complain much but wanted the epen of having 2133.

Paulieg · Feb 12, 2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kenkickr

I have tried both the 1866 and 2133 settings, with each just each set, and individually; to no avail. For now I'm running 7-7-7-24 @ 1.54v which I can't complain much but wanted the epen of having 2133.

That doesn't sound right. Haven't seen anyone not able to get at least 1866 out of these sticks on 1155. Can you download mem tweakit, and post your full timings?

Wrigleyvillain · Feb 12, 2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Feanor

Anyone tried those in a x58 mobo?

Got any results yet?

user21 · Feb 12, 2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bot

they are very nice, run very cool and hardly even need anything over 1.5v
i have mine running at 2133 with 1.497v CL 10-10-10-28
the board won't let me go higher (msi z68a-gd80) via multi

did you require any cooling solution???

Paulieg · Feb 12, 2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by user21

did you require any cooling solution???

They do not get hot. This is not a real accurate measurement, but I used a reliable infrared thermometer directly on the sticks during stability testing. 31.1 c was the highest temp I recorded at 1866 8-9-8-24 1.45v. Haven't tested temps on 2133 yet. Generally, DDR3 sticks do not require cooling solutions. They are mostly for aesthetics.

user21 · Feb 12, 2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulieg

They do not get hot. This is not a real accurate measurement, but I used a reliable infrared thermometer directly on the sticks during stability testing. 31.1 c was the highest temp I recorded at 1866 8-9-8-24 1.45v. Haven't tested temps on 2133 yet. Generally, DDR3 sticks do not require cooling solutions. They are mostly for aesthetics.

what was the room temperature when you noted them as 31.1c, can you measure the 2133 as well? and i didn't get the last part "DDR3 sticks do not require cooling solutions. They are mostly for aesthetics."

Paulieg · Feb 12, 2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by user21

what was the room temperature when you noted them as 31.1c, can you measure the 2133 as well? and i didn't get the last part "DDR3 sticks do not require cooling solutions. They are mostly for aesthetics."

Room temp was 17.3c. I'm not sure how to clarify the statement. Here goes...Basically, DDR3 does not really need any cooling in most cases, and manufacturers use heatspreaders mostly for looks.

user21 · Feb 12, 2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulieg

Room temp was 17.3c. I'm not sure how to clarify the statement. Here goes...Basically, DDR3 does not really need any cooling in most cases, and manufacturers use heatspreaders mostly for looks.

17.3c going with 31.1c is actually good. i guess it has to do with the nm size as well and what motherboard you are using for OC ??

Paulieg · Feb 12, 2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by user21

17.3c going with 31.1c is actually good. i guess it has to do with the nm size as well and what motherboard you are using for OC ??

Even 40nm stays cooler than you would think. My naked Micron D9s I used on 1366 stayed cool. Honestly, the heavy, thick heatspreaders found on many DDR3 sticks actually are counterproductive. I'm benching with a Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 right now. I'm on a open Lian Li bench table, with no airflow across the board too, so that tells you something about how cool these sticks stay.

Wrigleyvillain · Feb 12, 2012, 05:58 PM

Yeah the voltage is lower and people have good airflow through their cases generally these days. Present-day RAM, especially, does not need a heatspreader and it makes sense that some of them (at least) would actually make the ICs hotter.

Feanor · Feb 12, 2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrigleyvillain

Got any results yet?

Not yet. I'll receive them this week. I'll come back the next week-end after mucho testing!

user21 · Feb 12, 2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulieg

Even 40nm stays cooler than you would think. My naked Micron D9s I used on 1366 stayed cool. Honestly, the heavy, thick heatspreaders found on many DDR3 sticks actually are counterproductive. I'm benching with a Asrock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 right now. I'm on a open Lian Li bench table, with no airflow across the board too, so that tells you something about how cool these sticks stay.

impressive. i wish i could grab these here in my country. they would be available but impossible with this price tag. already running vengeance 8gb with sabertooth p67

and have you ever taken a ddr2 above 1200mhz ?

Paulieg · Feb 12, 2012, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by user21

impressive. i wish i could grab these here in my country. they would be available but impossible with this price tag. already running vengeance 8gb with sabertooth p67

and have you ever taken a ddr2 above 1200mhz ?

Yes. Both with with Buffalo Firestix and Supertalent sticks. Here's a DDR2 overclocking thread. You'll see my firestix listed, and a set of Supertalents that Infrared had, that were originally mine.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...t=ram+tweakers

rangerone766 · Feb 13, 2012, 12:08 AM

picked up a set of these. get a bit better timings out of them than i did on my mushkins. but for some reason my msi z68 refuses to load windows with 2133 ram at any multi's above 45. i have no idea if i'm missing a setting or if it's board/cpu limit.

sammy's-

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mushkins-

By rangerone766 at 2012-02-06

kenkickr · Feb 13, 2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paulieg

That doesn't sound right. Haven't seen anyone not able to get at least 1866 out of these sticks on 1155. Can you download mem tweakit, and post your full timings?

I sent ecs a support ticket to see if they can assist. I think it's the board, not the ram.

Paulieg · Feb 13, 2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rangerone766

picked up a set of these. get a bit better timings out of them than i did on my mushkins. but for some reason my msi z68 refuses to load windows with 2133 ram at any multi's above 45. i have no idea if i'm missing a setting or if it's board/cpu limit.

sammy's-
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/7626/58026171.jpg

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mushkins-
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By rangerone766 at 2012-02-06

I had a couple of P67 boards that had a similar issue. Once I had 46+ multi, they would not run 2133 nor 1866 without very loose timings. Playing with voltages did nothing to help. I would say it's the chip IMC, but the same chips on different boards did not have this issue.

rangerone766 · Feb 13, 2012, 01:12 PM

Today I am going to try 1886 with tight timings. But if I can't run 2133 with more than a x45 multi, I may just switch back to the mushkins.

Good thing I bought the extended warranty from microcenter. This board has proven to be fairly unstable, I will return it for a z77 when they are released.

Paulieg · Feb 14, 2012, 12:26 PM

Finally got these sticks running 16GB 1866 8-9-9-21 on 1.47v. I'll post some screenies tonight. I love this ram.

boomstik360 · Feb 14, 2012, 03:20 PM

1 or 2T? I'll have to try something similar!

t_ski · Feb 15, 2012, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LagunaX

Oh yeah! 2 more sets for $80 total!
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...69/photo-1.jpg

So do you have 32GB total in that rig now?

Bot · Feb 15, 2012, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by user21

did you require any cooling solution???

none at all. inside the case and outside the case.
i didn't go over 1.5v thou so i don't know how the picture would change there

user21 · Feb 15, 2012, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Paulieg

Yes. Both with with Buffalo Firestix and Supertalent sticks. Here's a DDR2 overclocking thread. You'll see my firestix listed, and a set of Supertalents that Infrared had, that were originally mine.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...t=ram+tweakers

bravo! superb man. You just sparked a bulb in my mind of something i had forgotten.
DDR2 had its limitations you see it cant make it to 1400mhz or it can be? on the other hand lga775 platform where the front side bus maxes out to 1333 (not the QX9770) and most boards are ddr2 the ram speed to bus ration remains different. The question is should it be
ram : FSB
1333mhz : 1333mhz
for optimal performance? or
the ram speed doesn't matter?

P.S. cooling solution needed for ddr2? which board you used with ddr2?

tedy · Feb 15, 2012, 10:37 AM

stop buying them people, out of stock or prices went up

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