NVIDIA Driver Questions.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 31, 2012, 04:41 PM

Ive been thinking of going green for a while now. But ever since AMD changed the driver team they have completely broke OpenGL. Since I need OpenGL to be stable for Photoshop its cost me some serious work hours as of late with crashes. So I basically wanna know with people who use OpenGL professionally how well Nvidias drivers handle OpenGL.

I don't wanna jump from the frying pan to the fire.

cadaveca · Jan 31, 2012, 04:49 PM

Subb'ed.

heky · Jan 31, 2012, 05:00 PM

Why not just stick with the drivers that previously worked for you, if you have issues with the new ones?

cadaveca · Jan 31, 2012, 05:11 PM

Because the driver that is stable in Photoshop is not very good for gaming.

heky · Jan 31, 2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

Because the driver that is stable in Photoshop is not very good for gaming.

Oh, so people who use Photoshop professionally, also play games on the same computer. Proffessional indeed.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 31, 2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by heky

Oh, so people who use Photoshop professionally, also play games on the same computer. Proffessional indeed.

I am. Honestly don't care what you think. Being a pro artist I cannot afford a "play" computer and a "work" computer. Just need input on NVIDIA drivers and OpenGL. Thanks.

RockmanX · Jan 31, 2012, 05:46 PM

Nvidia releases beta driver only, where are WHQL?

TheMailMan78 · Jan 31, 2012, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RockmanX

Nvidia releases beta driver only, where are WHQL?

Thats not true.

Anyways I'm surprised I didnt get more feedback sooner. I guess not many pros on TPU?

erocker · Jan 31, 2012, 07:28 PM

Have you tried everything in this troubleshooting section? http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/404/kb404898.html

Wish I could help more, but I'm still using CS2.

brandonwh64 · Jan 31, 2012, 07:32 PM

This question maybe off topic but how long have you done photoshop and how hard is it to learn?

heky · Jan 31, 2012, 07:33 PM

Thats becouse not many "Pros" use normal(non quadro) cards for Photoshop, rendering, etc. And quadro drivers are not the same as normal. Also i dont think nvidia will be any better at both games and opengl at the same time. I also think now is the worst time to switch to the green camp, with the new AMD cards out and new Nvidia cards soon to be released.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 31, 2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by heky

Thats becouse not many "Pros" use normal(non quadro) cards for Photoshop, rendering, etc. And quadro drivers are not the same as normal. Also i dont think nvidia will be any better at both games and opengl at the same time. I also think now is the worst time to swith to the green camp, with the new AMD cards out and new Nvidia cards soon to be released.

I hate to break it to you but very few pro illustrators use quadro GPU's for Photoshop.

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Originally Posted by erocker

Have you tried everything in this troubleshooting section? http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/404/kb404898.html

Wish I could help more, but I'm still using CS2.

Honestly I forgot about basic mode. Ill run that for a while and see if that fixes it. I bet it will. Ill post back and let you know if so.

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

This question maybe off topic but how long have you done photoshop and how hard is it to learn?

Well over 10 years for about 12 hours a day......lol

If you wanna learn Ill be happy to help.

brandonwh64 · Jan 31, 2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Well over 10 years for about 12 hours a day......lol

If you wanna learn Ill be happy to help.

Damn! Well I would love to but right now, my work wants me to start learning flash so that is my next step and I will have to incorporate Photoshop in as well so I have a large training coming soon!

TheMailMan78 · Jan 31, 2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Damn! Well I would love to but right now, my work wants me to start learning flash so that is my next step and I will have to incorporate Photoshop in as well so I have a large training coming soon!

I suggest you learn Illustrator CS5 if you are going into Flash. I can help you with that also.

phanbuey · Jan 31, 2012, 07:48 PM

I sometimes run quake 4 professionally and the OpenGL is great!

TheMailMan78 · Jan 31, 2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by phanbuey

I sometimes run quake 4 professionally and the OpenGL is great!

lol Yeah Rage runs fine. Its Photoshop thats the picky bitch.

cadaveca · Jan 31, 2012, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by heky

Oh, so people who use Photoshop professionally, also play games on the same computer. Proffessional indeed.

Photoshop has no system requirements that state a Quadro or FireGL card are required for the app to function, so few people buy those cards, even in a professional setting. Most "Professionals" as Mailman refers to it, also have no idea about PCs, either, so I'm not quite sure what point you are trying to make... The graphic design industry hasn't always been digitally-focused.

yogurt_21 · Jan 31, 2012, 08:16 PM

CS5 on nvidia, photoshop, premier, afterefftects, everything smooth as butter.

open gl works great for nvidia, you have to remember they poached 3dfx after their demise and got quite a few good engineers, not just good technology.

heky · Jan 31, 2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

Photoshop has no system requirements that state a Quadro or FireGL card are required for the app to function, so few people buy those cards, even in a professional setting. Most "Professionals" as Mailman refers to it, also have no idea about PCs, either, so I'm not quite sure what point you are trying to make... The graphic design industry hasn't always been digitally-focused.

Ofcourse not, i never said that. But it does support quadro cards and firegl cards. And the drivers for these types of cards are different for a reason. And "pro" cards are meant for that stuff.

Also my brother is a "pro" Photographer and uses Photoshop daily on a Radeon HD2900XT. No problems whatsoever. So i wonder what why our "pro" Mailman has so much problems.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 31, 2012, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heky

Ofcourse not, i never said that. But it does support quadro cards and firegl cards. And the drivers for these types of cards are different for a reason. And "pro" cards are meant for that stuff.

An IGP is enough for what Photoshop needs for 99% of all its users man. Unless you are taking things into Mudbox or something using a quadro or FireGL is stupid. NO ONE will use a GPU like that whos just an illustrator in Photoshop. There is zero point to it.

All Photoshop uses the GPU for is real time scaling, rotation and redraw for most users. Why would I need a FireGL for that?

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Originally Posted by heky

Also my brother is a "pro" Photographer and uses Photoshop daily on a Radeon HD2900XT. No problems whatsoever. So i wonder what why our "pro" Mailman has so much problems.

Because I make Photoshop beg for mercy. Big difference between your brother and me. Im an Illustrator.

brandonwh64 · Jan 31, 2012, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heky

Ofcourse not, i never said that. But it does support quadro cards and firegl cards. And the drivers for these types of cards are different for a reason. And "pro" cards are meant for that stuff.

Also my brother is a "pro" Photographer and uses Photoshop daily on a Radeon HD2900XT. No problems whatsoever. So i wonder what why our "pro" Mailman has so much problems.

He has issues due to NEWER drivers. the older ones worked great for Photoshop but not so much for gaming.

heky · Jan 31, 2012, 08:27 PM

Ok, understand you now mailman. Have you tried contacting AMD about your problem? Sometimes giving them a poke works wonders, and they quickly release a fix.

TheMailMan78 · Jan 31, 2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by heky

Ok, understand you now mailman. Have you tried contacting AMD about your problem? Sometimes giving them a poke works wonders, and they quickly release a fix.

Its age old man. ATI blames Adobe and Adobe blames ATI. Im sick of it.

Crap Daddy · Jan 31, 2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Its age old man. ATI blames Adobe and Adobe blames ATI. Im sick of it.

There seems to be a "friendship" between Adobe and Nvidia since Premiere Pro supports only NV cards for the Mercury Engine so I suppose Photoshop is well supported by NV but you have to check further. I smell some laziness lately in the driver department at NV, although for single card gaming I have had zero issues, maybe they are all preoccupied with Kepler?

TheMailMan78 · Jan 31, 2012, 09:40 PM

I think after some reading and such Im going to go with a 570 as soon as I can get some cash together.

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heky Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Slovenia, Europe Posts: 873 (0.63/day) Thanks: 891 Thanked 144 Times in 122 Posts System Specs	Why not just stick with the drivers that previously worked for you, if you have issues with the new ones?

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cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,932 (4.16/day) Thanks: 4,718 Thanked 5,464 Times in 3,308 Posts System Specs	Because the driver that is stable in Photoshop is not very good for gaming.

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