Which midtower case should I buy?

El_Mayo · Feb 11, 2012, 07:30 PM

I have a Casecom 6788 atm, and I'm looking for a case with the following:

Dust filters
Good cable management
Good STOCK cooling (I have two 120mm fans spare I can add)
Good build quality, so I can keep it for years to come
Fan control switch

I'm thinking of buying the Corsair 500R or the CM 690-II

TheLaughingMan · Feb 11, 2012, 07:48 PM

The 500R is my vote if those are you two choices.

El_Mayo · Feb 11, 2012, 09:54 PM

Those are the best cases that come to mind, but they're also two of the most expensive. I was wondering if any other cases fit the criteria at a lower price point

like the HAF 912 or something
looking at reviews on TPU now

DoomDoomDoom · Feb 11, 2012, 10:28 PM

Expensive? The CM 690 II is 70 bucks on Newegg, which helps you exactly none since you're on the other side of the pond. I have this case and I love it, I just wish the front panel had USB 3.0 support, but that is being addressed in a new version of it.

The Corsair 400R is another alternative if you want the 500R. Most of the same features and great cooling.

Norton · Feb 11, 2012, 10:53 PM

The NZXT Phantom 410 has good cable management and built in fan controller

It has some filters but check a review to see how many/where

E-Buyer listing:

NZXT Phantom 410 Black Case | Ebuyer.com

Raw · Feb 11, 2012, 11:14 PM

Corsair 500R !!! Nice looking.

Sound_Card · Feb 12, 2012, 01:16 AM

My vote is the Fractal Arc Midi.
http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=57

$99, light, clean lian li'ish look, great cable wiring, removable HD bay, every fan slot is 140mm compatible, fan controller for 3 fans, filters for every fan slot except the side panel(just buy one for 3 bucks really).

rangerone766 · Feb 12, 2012, 01:53 AM

i just picked up a zalman z9. havent built it yet, but the price was right and has 90% of the features your after.

should be a decent $55 dollar case.

specks · Feb 12, 2012, 02:24 AM

I would go with the 500R. It has LOTS of available fan mount though not all have dust filters. That extra airflow is good especially when you are running a stock cooler. Cable management and build quality are also really good. It also has a built in fan controller switch for the included fans.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/C.../Carbide_500R/

You can also get the 400R for only $99.

El_Mayo · Feb 12, 2012, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoomDoomDoom

Expensive? The CM 690 II is 70 bucks on Newegg, which helps you exactly none since you're on the other side of the pond. I have this case and I love it, I just wish the front panel had USB 3.0 support, but that is being addressed in a new version of it.

The Corsair 400R is another alternative if you want the 500R. Most of the same features and great cooling.

The USB 3 version is £80 on eBuyer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norton

The NZXT Phantom 410 has good cable management and built in fan controller

It has some filters but check a review to see how many/where

E-Buyer listing:

NZXT Phantom 410 Black Case | Ebuyer.com

That one looks pretty good actually. The most I wanna spend if £90

Quote:

Originally Posted by specks

I would go with the 500R. It has LOTS of available fan mount though not all have dust filters. That extra airflow is good especially when you are running a stock cooler. Cable management and build quality are also really good. It also has a built in fan controller switch for the included fans.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/C.../Carbide_500R/

You can also get the 400R for only $99.

My choices right now are Corsair 500R (£5 more than the 400R...)
NZXT Phantom 410, Zalman Z9 and the CM-690

I'll have to look up reviews to compare them, hopefully they're all reviewed by TPU

xBruce88x · Feb 12, 2012, 01:19 PM

i'd try to look at the cases you have in mind at a local shop/store. if they still look like new and function well after being handled by who know how many people, then chances are they're of a decent build quality

also it'll give you a chance to get a feel of how big they are, where to route wires, whether your cpu cooler will fit, etc. and get a feel for how certain things on it works like tool-less drive installation things and any little doors and such it may have. I guess i'm kinda lucky as far as that goes, there's a TigerDirect, Fry's, and two MicroCenters not too far from me... and a few local shops... even BestBuy and Radioshack (the last being way to expensive usually)

Norton · Feb 12, 2012, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El_Mayo

The USB 3 version is £80 on eBuyer

That one looks pretty good actually. The most I wanna spend if £90

My choices right now are Corsair 500R (£5 more than the 400R...)
NZXT Phantom 410, Zalman Z9 and the CM-690

I'll have to look up reviews to compare them, hopefully they're all reviewed by TPU

These reviews should help your decision:
* note- all of them rate pretty high (9+ on a ten scale)

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...tom_410/6.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/C...de_500R/1.html

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=681&Itemid=61

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=431&Itemid=61

IMHO the CM 690 and the Zalman look a little out-dated compared to the Corsair and the NZXT. The Corsair 500R or the NZXT 410 would both be good choices.

In the end it all comes down to what you like the best.

Good luck in your search

DoomDoomDoom · Feb 12, 2012, 05:13 PM

HWC has a review of the 690 II, which is what sold me: http://youtu.be/hGvBjEmXJnI

They also have reviews of the Corsair 400R and the 500R.

Not familiar with the Zalman case but Hardware Secrets has a nice write-up on the Z9 plus.

Anandtach and Hardware Secrets both reviewed the case, and it seems like a solid pick-up. (Edit - NZXT case. D'oh!)

Was there any specific look you were going for?

Paulieg · Feb 12, 2012, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sound_Card

My vote is the Fractal Arc Midi.
http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=57

$99, light, clean lian li'ish look, great cable wiring, removable HD bay, every fan slot is 140mm compatible, fan controller for 3 fans, filters for every fan slot except the side panel(just buy one for 3 bucks really).

THIS. I love Fractal Design cases. If I go back to cases, this is the mid tower case I'd choose.

sneekypeet · Feb 13, 2012, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sound_Card

My vote is the Fractal Arc Midi.
http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=57

$99, light, clean lian li'ish look, great cable wiring, removable HD bay, every fan slot is 140mm compatible, fan controller for 3 fans, filters for every fan slot except the side panel(just buy one for 3 bucks really).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulieg

THIS. I love Fractal Design cases. If I go back to cases, this is the mid tower case I'd choose.

On this subject, I just looked at the Define R3, and I gotta say it offers what you are looking for, and some! The 500R is very nice; the NZXT Phantom 410 is also nice, but the shape is either hit or miss for everyone with its design. The CM690 is good as well, the real problem is the market in $100-$125 mid-tower cases is overfilled with options. I don't typically give advice on cases, because every case design gives you the issue of perspective. I can tell you everything inside the case is what you want, but if you don't like the aesthetics (looks), I can't ever sell you on that case. That being said, of the original two you picked and asked about, I would say 500R without even blinking at you

JrRacinFan · Feb 13, 2012, 03:00 AM

Peet
What about the Midgard 2?

El_Mayo · Feb 13, 2012, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norton

These reviews should help your decision:
* note- all of them rate pretty high (9+ on a ten scale)

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...tom_410/6.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/C...de_500R/1.html

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=681&Itemid=61

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...=431&Itemid=61

IMHO the CM 690 and the Zalman look a little out-dated compared to the Corsair and the NZXT. The Corsair 500R or the NZXT 410 would both be good choices.

In the end it all comes down to what you like the best.

Good luck in your search

I'm looking at 3dgameman videos cos I like the reviews to come from the same source (more reliable

)
the Z9 has the best price/quality ratio
But I'm willing to splash out!

El_Mayo · Feb 19, 2012, 05:02 PM

Okay I narrowed it down to the Zalman Z9 Plus and the Fractal case

JrRacinFan · Feb 19, 2012, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El_Mayo

Okay I narrowed it down to the Zalman Z9 Plus and the Fractal case

I am more of a sleek, subtle kind of guy. I vote for the Fractal.

El_Mayo · Feb 19, 2012, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

I am more of a sleek, subtle kind of guy. I vote for the Fractal.

I've developed the same eye in the past year
Last year I would have given an arm and a leg for a HAF 922 :P

But the Zalman case just happens to fit the criteria whilst being at an excellent price. But the Fractal has it all. Methinks it's gonna be that one. Plus I hear it's quiet too. Any idea what cable management is like?

JrRacinFan · Feb 19, 2012, 05:31 PM

The interior of the Fractal would be better for cabling.

MxPhenom 216 · Feb 19, 2012, 05:33 PM

Corsair 500r!

El_Mayo · Feb 20, 2012, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvidiaintelftw

Corsair 500r!

It looks like it has rad cable management
I'm so spoilt for choice! Does it come with dust filters, and is the stock cooling good? Also is it a quiet case or..

BrettRuthnam · Feb 20, 2012, 11:52 AM

Hello, I got my brother the Z9 Plus.

Here's a few points to note:

1st: Overall the Z9 is a "nice" case with respect to the paint job, fans, cable management slots...bla bla
2nd: The side panel has a mesh and 2 fans can be fitted there, the crap thing is it stuffs up air flow and you can hear noise from the inside of the chassis.
3rd: My brother has an OCZ Vendetta2 cpu cooler, boy oh boy did i have fun installing that. the clearance on the top of the case does not allow you to fit the cooler in a normal vertical position, i had to make it horizontal

4th: I have a CM690, I like it alot (Inspector Clueso's voice)

I vote 500R/CM690-II

PS: If money is not a problem, the Cosmos II is the one to get

also don't worry about fan filters, just get stockings = cut pieces and stretch over the fans

El_Mayo · Feb 20, 2012, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrettRuthnam

Hello, I got my brother the Z9 Plus.

Here's a few points to note:

1st: Overall the Z9 is a "nice" case with respect to the paint job, fans, cable management slots...bla bla
2nd: The side panel has a mesh and 2 fans can be fitted there, the crap thing is it stuffs up air flow and you can hear noise from the inside of the chassis.
3rd: My brother has an OCZ Vendetta2 cpu cooler, boy oh boy did i have fun installing that. the clearance on the top of the case does not allow you to fit the cooler in a normal vertical position, i had to make it horizontal

4th: I have a CM690, I like it alot (Inspector Clueso's voice)

I vote 500R/CM690-II

PS: If money is not a problem, the Cosmos II is the one to get

also don't worry about fan filters, just get stockings = cut pieces and stretch over the fans

I'm not LOADED but I'll spend up to £90 on a new case

Fractal or Corsair............................... I might literally flip a coin

Feb 11, 2012, 07:30 PM	#1
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Feb 11, 2012, 09:54 PM	#3
El_Mayo Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bristol, England Posts: 2,100 (1.40/day) Thanks: 1,262 Thanked 193 Times in 155 Posts System Specs	Those are the best cases that come to mind, but they're also two of the most expensive. I was wondering if any other cases fit the criteria at a lower price point like the HAF 912 or something looking at reviews on TPU now __________________ Battlefield 3: My Battlelog Twitter

Feb 11, 2012, 10:28 PM	#4
DoomDoomDoom Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rockford, IL Posts: 173 (0.16/day) Thanks: 18 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts System Specs	Expensive? The CM 690 II is 70 bucks on Newegg, which helps you exactly none since you're on the other side of the pond. I have this case and I love it, I just wish the front panel had USB 3.0 support, but that is being addressed in a new version of it. The Corsair 400R is another alternative if you want the 500R. Most of the same features and great cooling.

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Feb 11, 2012, 10:53 PM	#5
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Feb 12, 2012, 01:16 AM	#7
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Feb 12, 2012, 02:24 AM	#9
specks Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 422 (0.52/day) Thanks: 424 Thanked 87 Times in 59 Posts System Specs	I would go with the 500R. It has LOTS of available fan mount though not all have dust filters. That extra airflow is good especially when you are running a stock cooler. Cable management and build quality are also really good. It also has a built in fan controller switch for the included fans. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/C.../Carbide_500R/ You can also get the 400R for only $99. Last edited by specks; Feb 12, 2012 at 02:30 AM.

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Feb 12, 2012, 05:13 PM	#13
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Feb 19, 2012, 05:02 PM	#18
El_Mayo Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bristol, England Posts: 2,100 (1.40/day) Thanks: 1,262 Thanked 193 Times in 155 Posts System Specs	Okay I narrowed it down to the Zalman Z9 Plus and the Fractal case __________________ Battlefield 3: My Battlelog Twitter

Feb 19, 2012, 05:31 PM	#21
JrRacinFan Served 5k and counting ... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 16,121 (7.14/day) Thanks: 4,149 Thanked 4,552 Times in 4,027 Posts System Specs	The interior of the Fractal would be better for cabling. __________________ Graphics Artists United™ Request Thread Low Cache CPU Club Solaris Utility DVD 3.0 DanishDevil's Logitech Soundroom TPU Video Gallery Sciencemark Revisited

Feb 19, 2012, 05:33 PM	#22
MxPhenom 216 Knowledgeable Posting Whore Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,756 (5.78/day) Thanks: 1,276 Thanked 1,080 Times in 833 Posts System Specs	Corsair 500r! __________________ Motocross is not just a sport, it's a lifestyle. File Server: Intel Pentium G630, 8GB PNY 1600, AsRock H77M Micro, Corsair CX430M, Vertex 2 90GB (OS), 2x WD Red 2TB in RAID1 “We will never know our full potential, unless we push ourselves to find it. -Travis Rice”

System Name:	My System
Processor:	Intel Core i5 2500k @ 4.5GHZ 1.36v
Motherboard:	AsRock Extreme4 Gen3 P67
Cooling:	Prolimatech Megahalem w/ Push/Pull Corsair SP120s and H2O GPU
Memory:	Corsair Dominator Plats 8GB 4GBx2 2133mhz 1.5v
Video Card:	Evga Geforce GTX680 Signature 2 @ 1260/6308 H2O EK Block
Hard Disk:	Samsung 830 128GB SSD, Corsair Neutron 240GB, Samsung F3 500GB
Optical Drive:	Asus 24x SATA DVD
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell U2412M IPS 24" 1920 x 1200
Case:	Corsair Carbide Series 500r w/ 2x Corsair AF120 fans
Sound Card:	HT Omega Striker 7.1
PSU:	Corsair HX850 Gen1 Silver
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
Benchmarks:	P33304 Vantage

Feb 20, 2012, 11:52 AM	#24
BrettRuthnam Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Centurion, South Africa (O_o) Posts: 39 (0.05/day) Thanks: 23 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts System Specs	Hello, I got my brother the Z9 Plus. Here's a few points to note: 1st: Overall the Z9 is a "nice" case with respect to the paint job, fans, cable management slots...bla bla 2nd: The side panel has a mesh and 2 fans can be fitted there, the crap thing is it stuffs up air flow and you can hear noise from the inside of the chassis. 3rd: My brother has an OCZ Vendetta2 cpu cooler, boy oh boy did i have fun installing that. the clearance on the top of the case does not allow you to fit the cooler in a normal vertical position, i had to make it horizontal 4th: I have a CM690, I like it alot (Inspector Clueso's voice) I vote 500R/CM690-II PS: If money is not a problem, the Cosmos II is the one to get also don't worry about fan filters, just get stockings = cut pieces and stretch over the fans

System Name:	GDZLLR
Processor:	2500K
Motherboard:	ASUS P67 Pro
Cooling:	Antec 920
Memory:	Corsair Dominator GT 1866MHz
Video Card:	MSI GTX580 TF2 OC
Hard Disk:	Nothing (Just kidding)
CRT/LCD Model:	BX2450
Case:	CM690 Nvidia Edition
Sound Card:	Repeat after me: "I..am..a..lit..tle..piggy" ohhohohohh
PSU:	Antec HCG 900W [Gaming only uses 280-400w (O_o)]
Software:	Win 7 64bit Ultimate
Benchmarks:	5 million Brownie Points

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