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Old Feb 19, 2012, 01:24 PM   #1
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Gaming Keyboard and Mouse Questions

I was on Amazon.com looking at the Logitech gaming mice and keyboards. In particular, this keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-0...=3CXCNQ4RANJ32

And this mouse:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...SIN=B002J9GDXI

I've never owned a gaming mouse or keyboard before. So I am wondering what the benefits really are in gameplay. Starting off with the mouse, I can't recall what my Microsoft laser mouse DPI is but I'm sure it's nowhere near the 5700 of the Logitech gaming mouse above. How much difference does that really make say when playing a shooter? How does it affect gameplay? Is it easier to aim quickly and accurately? Does it help you to play better? There must be some reason people like them. I'd like to understand how beneficial they are. As for all the extra buttons I don't honestly see myself using them. Do people really find all those buttons on a mouse helpful? What for? What do people activate with them?

On to the Logitech gaming keyboards. The one I linked above I think is their entry level model. I like the backlit keys feature. That is pretty cool. Some of the other stuff seems pretty useless to me personally. The defining feature of this keyboard really seems to be the macro keys. So the question is, what are they good for? I'm trying to imagine what I'd want to macro in a shooter for example. What would I want to macro playing some RPG? What would I want to macro playing World of Warcraft? Once again, people like these a lot for some reason but I am honestly clueless about what specifically it is. So please enlighten the clueless!

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I recently purchased a Gigabyte M8000X and I personally am glad that I did, not only do I have on the fly dpi settings(great for a shooter when you go from normal play to sniping, etc.) but I can set different profiles with my mouse buttons to do different things. Being able to change the weight of your mouse to your liking is a nice feature, but not required for most users. Overall thou it's really changed game play a lot for me and I have to say, it's made it more enjoyable.

As for a keyboard, I'm still using a Generic Logitech keyboard, although I've had my eye on this for a little while now. So I can't really comment to much on this.
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I got G19 but your KB looks very close to my only i got lcd screen on it, and i am very pleased with my G19 helps a lot to store different game profiles on it, so guess your keyboard will do same.
Cant say much about mouse, i using my razor mouse for 3years now,but guess if its logitech you cant go wrong with it :P
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If you haven't owned a gaming mose before and are into customization, you might want to check out something like the g300 - cheap but you get lots of options for the price: http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Gamin...AU?ref=prid-20

You can set the extra buttons to certain key commands( in my case g5=5+s to bring out an SCV, g4=marine, etc :} )
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I am currently using the G11, and I can say that gaming keyboards are not that worth it unless you need the macro keys a lot. Most of the time macro keys are just more convenient to have them around,. Stick to your $10 Dells, you don't lose a lot and its bloody cheap. For mouse, again, I don't use a lot of fancy keys, so I would recommend you get a basic mouse with a good sensor, like Steelseries Kinzu. G500 is not a bad mouse though.
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Quite weird that there aren't any A4Tech's there in the US.

$20 for a good gaming keyboard and $16.50 for a good gaming mouse.
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Quite weird that there aren't any A4Tech's there in the US.

$20 for a good gaming keyboard and $16.50 for a good gaming mouse.
They are quite popular in "2nd rate markets" though, progamers from Poland to Malaysia use them.
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I was on Amazon.com looking at the Logitech gaming mice and keyboards. In particular, this keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-0...=3CXCNQ4RANJ32

And this mouse:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...SIN=B002J9GDXI

I've never owned a gaming mouse or keyboard before......
Buying razer is the equivalent of buying a bottom shelf walmart mouse, painting it black and putting a name on it. The only reason it gained any ground is because (for whatever reason) when you slap the word "gaming" on it, people eat that shit up like hotcakes.

A local store here ordered 10 "gaming" network cards that cost something like $200 and they sold in 1 hour. This was last year. People are just stupid and buy anything labeled "gamer".

That said, logitech does have quality mice and keyboards. Their "gamer" stuff is well built for the most part. I imagine they label quite a bit of it "for gamers" because it just sells better that way.

You should stray away from "gamer" headsets, logitech included. There is better quality for less money to be had in other brands.
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Gaming keyboard selection these days boils down to:
In need of macro keys -> Logitech / Razer / ROCCAT, membrane keyboards with macro keys
No need for macro keys -> A keyboard that features the mechanical key mechanisms you prefer (QPAD,Mionix,Rosewill,Daskeyboard...).

In terms of mice the low end Logitech gaming mice are good value for money. Otherwise you could go for any of the new breed of optical gaming mice with lift-off distance tweaks from CoolerMaster, Zowie, and Mionix.

Mechanical keyboards are just better than membrane ones if you can find a key mechanism that suites your stile of gaming and does not annoy you in terms of noise and other oddities.
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I have that mouse.
It broke after 2 years of abuse... by broke I mean the smoothness was eroded to hell.
I liked to so much I went and bought the exact same mouse.
What does that tell you about what I think about it?

As for the keyboard, I have a G11. I used to have a G15... but I traded it with my friend for this one because I preferred the blue LED lights.
You'll never use the Micro Keys... I have 18 of them and they do sod all for me.

Logitech products are amazing. I highly recommend them.
I used to have a regular mouse and keyboard... but now I've used Gaming sets... I'd never go back to generic.
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i dunno what your budget is, but here are my thoughts and this is just personal preference. i had a g15 for about 3 years until i spilled water on it. the only function i truely used on it was the media buttons for play pause and stop and the LCD screen, the extra macros were a waste for me because only a few of them were in easy range of my pinky so it was just more simple to rebind keys like t g f h y e q z x c and add shift modifiers so i recently just ordered a microsoft keyboard that can recognize multiple button presses and it still has 4 macros keys in case i change my mind (sidewinder x4) the key with keyboards is get something that can recognize multiple key presses. as for a mouse logitechs mouses are QUALITY ive never ruined a logitech mouse but with lack of macro keys and for ease of use ive switched the the naga razer. this eliminates the need for having the expensive keyboards with extra macros. so in the end buy whats comfortable for you to use and what you see is more practical for your gaming needs. i dont know the games u play so base it on that
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i got a G500 and i luv it, i have had it since it was released, and still works.

the keyboard i most say i am not a big fan of Logitech's "Gaming" keyboard they r too big for me, i think i will go for like a normal one with Cherry Switches on, when i am changing my Logitech Ultra-X keyboard out.
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i've got both of those and can highly recommend them. the only reason i don't still use my g500 is that the cord got damaged, and it didn't take to repair very well.

the g-keys alone make the keyboard worth it.
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Buying razer is the equivalent of buying a bottom shelf walmart mouse, painting it black and putting a name on it. The only reason it gained any ground is because (for whatever reason) when you slap the word "gaming" on it, people eat that shit up like hotcakes.

A local store here ordered 10 "gaming" network cards that cost something like $200 and they sold in 1 hour. This was last year. People are just stupid and buy anything labeled "gamer".

That said, logitech does have quality mice and keyboards. Their "gamer" stuff is well built for the most part. I imagine they label quite a bit of it "for gamers" because it just sells better that way.

You should stray away from "gamer" headsets, logitech included. There is better quality for less money to be had in other brands.
Mostly true, but I have a Razer Deathadder that is still kicking from about 5 years ago, maybe more. Daily fps gaming and rts gaming too, lots of clicking.

I had a Logitech g5 that was an awesome mouse, but a mobo fried and took everything connected to the usb ports with it. I still miss that mouse, quite comfortable, on the fly dpi adjustment and weights.

Gaming keyboards are just a gimmick. Unless you absolutely need dedicated macro keys just get any keyboard.

Gaming mice come down to personal preference and what feels most comfortable in your own hands really. These days all the gaming mice have excellent sensors and tracking.

I would reccommend the Razer Deathadder due to personal experience, but the web is full of horror stories. Plus, as other users have pointed out, Razer does not use the best materials or manafacture to the same quality as Logitech and some other brands.

The G500 is a great mouse, I am thinking about buying that or a g9x.
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I was on Amazon.com looking at the Logitech gaming mice and keyboards. In particular, this keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-0...=3CXCNQ4RANJ32

And this mouse:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...SIN=B002J9GDXI

I've never owned a gaming mouse or keyboard before. So I am wondering what the benefits really are in gameplay. Starting off with the mouse, I can't recall what my Microsoft laser mouse DPI is but I'm sure it's nowhere near the 5700 of the Logitech gaming mouse above. How much difference does that really make say when playing a shooter? How does it affect gameplay? Is it easier to aim quickly and accurately? Does it help you to play better? There must be some reason people like them. I'd like to understand how beneficial they are. As for all the extra buttons I don't honestly see myself using them. Do people really find all those buttons on a mouse helpful? What for? What do people activate with them?

On to the Logitech gaming keyboards. The one I linked above I think is their entry level model. I like the backlit keys feature. That is pretty cool. Some of the other stuff seems pretty useless to me personally. The defining feature of this keyboard really seems to be the macro keys. So the question is, what are they good for? I'm trying to imagine what I'd want to macro in a shooter for example. What would I want to macro playing some RPG? What would I want to macro playing World of Warcraft? Once again, people like these a lot for some reason but I am honestly clueless about what specifically it is. So please enlighten the clueless!

Thanks a lot for any feedback on this stuff. I appreciate it.
I have a Logitech G700 and CANNOT say enough good things about it. I came from a generic mouse and wow... just wow... to me, yes, it made a massive difference in gaming; A LOT smoother and it did make me a better player. Will it make you a better player? Hard to say. But every time I play on my friend system with his generic mouse I can *feel* the roughness on screen when I'm viewing it, even though the frame rate is at 60. But the accuracy is just the first thing that surprised me with this mouse.

Next came the overall efficiency of my use of the modern PC, thanks to said mouse. I use ALL of the 13 programmable buttons on my mouse... I have buttons assigned as: Ctrl+c, ctrl+v, ctrl+x, DPI change, back, forward, ctrl+R, and volume up and down. As you could imagine, all of these things make my use of my computer much faster, efficient, and more enjoyable. I thoroughly despise having to click the back button on friends' browsers/operating systems.

And that's before I get into the super-fast-freescroll click button... Do you view web pages? Do you listen to music on your computer? If the answer to those questions were yes (most likely) you HAVE to have a freescroll mouse. I scroll through 13000+ songs in a few seconds, and to the top of massive forums threads in less than that. Holy sh*t I love the freescroll button.

Oh yeah, that's just one of the five profiles I have for the mouse.

For my keyboard, I have a Logitech MX3000 (oldie, but a goodie). I've found that with keyboards, it's all about the feel of the keys. Every time I use my girlfriend's 'cool looking' illuminated no-name brand keyboard, I feel like I have to wash my hands afterwards, the keys just feel yuck and mushy... like pressing little bits of poop... my keys are sharp and accurate feeling. I don't use macro's with my keyboard, it supports them, just never felt the need for them.

So yeah, my $0.02


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I like my Logitech MX Revolution and Saitek Eclipse II
the MX revolution is my favorite mouse of all time. but alas, the scroll wheel broke and then the receiver, and then they stopped making them

i know they have a similar mouse out now, but it's nowhere near the quality the revolution was. at that price it had to be quality, but i still loved that mouse more than any other
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I have a g11 and honestly if i didn't pick it up on clearance @ Staples for $25 i would never have bought it! IMO the switches are crap! My 9yr old MS MediaPro board has better switches

At least they light up on the g11 lol
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