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Old Apr 18, 2012, 08:46 PM   #1
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GTX560 Ti 1GB (asus) or HD 7850 2GB (sapphire)

So yeah, I wanna upgrade my GPU and I have no idea whats the best card to go with.
Stopped following tech for a while now, I'll be using the card for gaming purposes and plan to setup dual monitors.
So my questions are, Which card is better? Will dual monitor setup drasticly affect my performance? Are any of these cards capble of dual monitoring?
Also I own a Corsair XH620 wat modular power supply will it have trouble running either of the cards (At the moment im using I7 2.67 GHZ, Radeon sapphire 4890)?
Sorry for the dumb questions and please answer
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Old Apr 18, 2012, 09:13 PM   #2
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I am running a EVGA GTX 480 on dual monitors for gaming. It takes everything I throw at it. Runs hot though. My case keeps it really cool, If you don't have a high airflow case it will get hot in there. I would go with a GTX 570 at least for gaming. GTX 480 is also still a good bang for the buck gaming card.
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Old Apr 18, 2012, 09:17 PM   #3
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I'm using the thermaltake overseer and I can't afford the 570 thats why I asked about those two specific cards...
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Old Apr 18, 2012, 09:21 PM   #4
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7850 draws less power, they are pretty close performance wise.
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personally got the 560ti asus TOP edition 1gb ram (stock 900mhz), runs battlefield three on ultra (minus msaa or msdaa whatever its called) at a steady 50+ frames per second will drop a bit to forty in places, this is @full 1080p on 24" monitor, great card and im using a tx650 watt psu from corsair runs fine power draw wise , wouldnt say it will do dual monitor gaming in bf3 or that very well, single defos and normal desktop multi-screen tasking no bother. hope this helps a bit any more question just ask and i shall try to help if i can

oh and it never goes above 65*c in my case when on long games of battlefield, hardly broke a sweat on dead island at 45*c, very very good cooling for stock
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The 7850 needs only one six pin connector, it uses something like 95W at load, is about 8% faster at stock than a GTX560 Ti. If it's only a choice between these two cards and the price is close then I'd recommend the 7850.
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7850 is faster then the 560 Ti, run cooler uses less power fully overclocked it looks to push GTX 580 / 7950 performance
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If your budget can go little more higher i would suggest sapphire 7870.
Uses the exact same cooler on 79** series, its 1ghz by default and has the best cooler solution comparing to the other brands: is silent and its effective.

I am using sapphires 7950.
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Agreed 7870...
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7870 without a doubt
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So what about if we throw the GTX 560TI 448 Core into the mix and exclude the 7870? What then say ye? (Looking to use a 550W PSU).
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So what about if we throw the GTX 560TI 448 Core into the mix and exclude the 7870? What then say ye? (Looking to use a 550W PSU).
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between the two 7850 no doubt about it since it does everything better.
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Old Apr 22, 2012, 11:31 PM   #17
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So what about if we throw the GTX 560TI 448 Core into the mix and exclude the 7870? What then say ye? (Looking to use a 550W PSU).
Get a bigger PSU? A Phenom II 940 + 6870 didn't want to boot with a 550-watt when I tried.
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Get a bigger PSU? A Phenom II 940 + 6870 didn't want to boot with a 550-watt when I tried.
What kind of PSU? It should have handled it fine assuming it wasn't a lower end non-80Plus PSU. As for the reccomendation, I reccomend either an HD7850 or if possible an HD7870, since both are higher performing than the 560Ti and draw less power while running cooler.
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Get a bigger PSU? A Phenom II 940 + 6870 didn't want to boot with a 550-watt when I tried.
did you try to clear the CMOS first?

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What kind of PSU? It should have handled it fine assuming it wasn't a lower end non-80Plus PSU. As for the reccomendation, I reccomend either an HD7850 or if possible an HD7870, since both are higher performing than the 560Ti and draw less power while running cooler.
The PSU may have some aging or is a dud unit if from a reputable company or is overrated by a non reputable company.

Ive had PSUs from existing machines just die after trying to power a newer machine, it doesnt bother me much as I just go and get a new one

Doing a Config on the outervision power supply calculator with this spec
1 Physical CPU
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AMD PHII X4 940 BE
CPU Utilization TDP at 90%
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Radeon 7870
1 7200 RPM HD
1 FLASH SSD
2x DVD RW Drives
4x USB Devices
2x 120mm Fans
1x 250mm Fan
System Load at 90%
Capacitor Aging at 30%

I get a Result of 490 Watts Minimum

Recommended is 540 Watts

to me that PSU maybe just old or overrated
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did you try to clear the CMOS first?
Yeah, when I say wouldn't boot I mean no power at all, no power up at all. Sometimes it would but it would crash in the middle of loading Windows. It was a BFG power supply, but that is in my friend's computer now with a Core 2 Duo and a radeon 4850 and it works fine for him. I bought a Corsair GS800 and powered up and booted off the bat the first time.
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Yeah, when I say wouldn't boot I mean no power at all, no power up at all. Sometimes it would but it would crash in the middle of loading Windows. It was a BFG power supply, but that is in my friend's computer now with a Core 2 Duo and a radeon 4850 and it works fine for him. I bought a Corsair GS800 and powered up and booted off the bat the first time.
N Now you know why BFG no longer exists...

And Plus capacitor aging might of come into play.

I wonder if my Antec Neo HE 500 will work on such a machine... Considering I havent had the machine powered up since 2010
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Of the two, I'd always recommend the newer hardware. And as someone already mentioned, if you can add a few extra bucks gets the 7870
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buy 7850 OC+1 likes gigabyte dual 10cm fans.
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Is the Asus 7850 the only one with voltage control?

I'm so torn between the 7850 and the 560Ti which is ~$55 less than the 7850 and the 448 edition is ~$15 less as well. I'm still trying to weigh up whether physx is worth it for the extra power consumption.

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GTX560ti448 for under $240 is a great card for the money.

HD7850 for $250ish is a good card for the money as well.


The new MSI Power Edition HD7850 looks very promising. Not sure when it will come out.

http://event.msi.com/vga/power_editi...er-Edition.htm

Able to provide HD7850 gpu with 33% more current than reference HD7850 and still uses the same single 6 pin power connection.
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