How much wattage should my PSU, I think it might be dying.

NOSDuco · Apr 23, 2012, 03:40 PM

I have been having graphical performance issues and I think the cause of these problems is my power supply. I don't think it is giving the video card enough power to run at it's optimal speed. I will post my specs below but how much wattage should it be using when I am just browsing the web and when I am playing BF3. Thank you - NOS

Specs:
Intel Core i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93GHz
16.0GB Gskillz RAM
XFX AMD Radeon HD 6950 Double Dissipation
1.5 TB HDD
750 Watt Corsair PSU TX750

sneekypeet · Apr 23, 2012, 03:44 PM

That 750W should be sufficient. If you suspect the PSU, get with corsair and work on an RMA.

I would imagine you can boot to desktop and surf with a 350W PSU, and I would venture to guess that AMD doesn't recommend higher than the 750W to run that card.

NOSDuco · Apr 23, 2012, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

That 750W should be sufficient. If you suspect the PSU, get with corsair and work on an RMA.

I would imagine you can boot to desktop and surf with a 350W PSU, and I would venture to guess that AMD doesn't recommend higher than the 750W to run that card.

I am using a multimeter and it shows 120 Watts when surfing the web and 200-230 watts when playing BF3. Are these measurements too low?

CJCerny · Apr 23, 2012, 04:00 PM

Those numbers sound about right.

NOSDuco · Apr 23, 2012, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CJCerny

Those numbers sound about right.

If it is not the PSU that is lagging my FPS in games then I have no idea what it is because I have even tried different graphics cards and not even that improved my FPS and they all can't even play BF3 on Low when they both used to be able to play it on Medium - High.

lilhasselhoffer · Apr 23, 2012, 04:35 PM

What may be an obvious question, have you been playing with drivers? You say that you've tried multiple video cards, which means you've been swapping them in and out. This sounds like a driver has become corrupt, and you're compounding the issue by swapping out cards. A full removal of drivers, followed by a nice clean install, may be in order.

NOSDuco · Apr 23, 2012, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilhasselhoffer

What may be an obvious question, have you been playing with drivers? You say that you've tried multiple video cards, which means you've been swapping them in and out. This sounds like a driver has become corrupt, and you're compounding the issue by swapping out cards. A full removal of drivers, followed by a nice clean install, may be in order.

I actually tried doing that before I did a swapping of the cards.

sneekypeet · Apr 23, 2012, 05:34 PM

If you look in my specs, I run that rig bone stock with ultra settings on BF3. Not sure what your exact issue is, aside from a little less GPU grunt than I got, but I agree it should run Med to High settings even without any OC.

NOSDuco · Apr 23, 2012, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

If you look in my specs, I run that rig bone stock with ultra settings on BF3. Not sure what your exact issue is, aside from a little less GPU grunt than I got, but I agree it should run Med to High settings even without any OC.

Yeah, and I can't even run on low without lagging terribly. At this point I have no idea what the problem could be.

EarthDog · Apr 23, 2012, 06:51 PM

PSU's do not 'lag FPS in game'. So look elsewhere.

How many GB of ram does that 6950 have? If its the 1GB (did those come with 1GB?), there is your problem.

NOSDuco · Apr 23, 2012, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarthDog

PSU's do not 'lag FPS in game'. So look elsewhere.

How many GB of ram does that 6950 have? If its the 1GB (did those come with 1GB?), there is your problem.

It is 2GB and it has 2GB....

brandonwh64 · Apr 23, 2012, 07:06 PM

This is odd! I was able to play on medium with a Athlon X4 630 and 5770 1GB

NOSDuco · Apr 23, 2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

This is odd! I was able to play on medium with a Athlon X4 630 and 5770 1GB

Exactly, that is why I think something is wrong and I am trying to figure out what is wrong... I have no idea what it could be at this point.

theoneandonlymrk · Apr 23, 2012, 07:09 PM

big time your psu should be fine i ran two 58xx on a tx850 for a year+ , a tip , I have an old slow sata 40gig drive i have a simple windows build on For My rig ie , whql certified stable drivers for all but not updated or anything, ie a garuateed booter and worker, with a bench or two on , if in doubt i plug it in and boot, youd be amazed at the heartache its saved me as it often looks hardware when its an os corruption or some such thing

EarthDog · Apr 23, 2012, 07:13 PM

So this 'lagging' you are experiencing. Can you elaborate on where you are seeing this lagging and describe it more? Do you have Vsync enabled?

LGV · Apr 23, 2012, 07:28 PM

I think thets card have 2 gig.

Please post cpu-z pic-s.
Along with BIOS pic. ( memory, cpu)
Would be nice to see the idle temps and in play both on CPU and GPU.
Both connector to the GPU ok?
check all cables.

Then we may could help.

good luck

NOSDuco · Apr 23, 2012, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarthDog

So this 'lagging' you are experiencing. Can you elaborate on where you are seeing this lagging and describe it more? Do you have Vsync enabled?

I open Fraps to check my FPS and it says I get around 50 on High but the gameplay is very lagging, it skips frames, mouse lags, etc. Just a generic lag but all the time.

NOSDuco · Apr 23, 2012, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOSDuco

I open Fraps to check my FPS and it says I get around 50 on High but the gameplay is very lagging, it skips frames, mouse lags, etc. Just a generic lag but all the time.

CPU-Z:

GPU-Z:

I downgraded to CCC 11.8 earlier today to see if that would help my issue but it did not but it did not make it worse.

Temps:
GPU: I get 50 Celcius when browsing web and around 60 when playing Blacklight Retribution (which also lags on the lowest settings).

Cables:
I just checked all the cables and I tried using different cables that came out of the PSU but that did not make a difference.

BIOS:
My BIOS doesn't tell much because I am actually using the motherboard out of a Dell Studio XPS 8100. If the motherboard ends up being the issue I am going to upgrade the motherboard as long as the processor to a new Intel Core 3rd Gen that came out earlier today.

EarthDog · Apr 23, 2012, 07:58 PM

Ram speed low, but doubt thats it.... (you arent even at your rated speeds).

With FPS around 50, vsync is not enabled, is that correct?

NOSDuco · Apr 23, 2012, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarthDog

Ram speed low, but doubt thats it.... (you arent even at your rated speeds).

With FPS around 50, vsync is not enabled, is that correct?

V-sync is not enabled, and I have tried using different RAM.

EarthDog · Apr 23, 2012, 08:14 PM

I didnt ask about different ram.. Im talking about the ram SPEED. You are running it at 1333Mhz vs 1600Mhz its rated for. I doubt thats the issue wnut its worth trying at this point.

NOSDuco · Apr 23, 2012, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarthDog

I didnt ask about different ram.. Im talking about the ram SPEED. You are running it at 1333Mhz vs 1600Mhz its rated for. I doubt thats the issue wnut its worth trying at this point.

What am I supposed to do to the RAM to make it run at that speed then?

EarthDog · Apr 23, 2012, 08:16 PM

Up the memory multiplier.

NOSDuco · Apr 23, 2012, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarthDog

Up the memory multiplier.

For the GPU?

NOSDuco · Apr 23, 2012, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarthDog

Up the memory multiplier.

How do I do that?

Apr 23, 2012, 03:40 PM	#1
NOSDuco Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 132 (0.26/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post System Specs	How much wattage should my PSU, I think it might be dying. I have been having graphical performance issues and I think the cause of these problems is my power supply. I don't think it is giving the video card enough power to run at it's optimal speed. I will post my specs below but how much wattage should it be using when I am just browsing the web and when I am playing BF3. Thank you - NOS Specs: Intel Core i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93GHz 16.0GB Gskillz RAM XFX AMD Radeon HD 6950 Double Dissipation 1.5 TB HDD 750 Watt Corsair PSU TX750

Processor:	Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93 GHz
Motherboard:	Dell In 0G3HR7
Memory:	G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Video Card:	XFX Double D HD-695X-CDFC Radeon HD 6950 2GB
Hard Disk:	Seagate 1.5 TB ST31500
Case:	COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN3-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Ca
PSU:	CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W

Apr 23, 2012, 03:44 PM	#2
sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 19,022 (7.32/day) Thanks: 3,039 Thanked 5,488 Times in 3,951 Posts System Specs	That 750W should be sufficient. If you suspect the PSU, get with corsair and work on an RMA. I would imagine you can boot to desktop and surf with a 350W PSU, and I would venture to guess that AMD doesn't recommend higher than the 750W to run that card. __________________ Hers: ASUS Maximus V Gene / i7 3770K / Swiftech H220 / 4X8GB Corsair Dominators / ASUS GTX660 / Corsair AX-760 / Windows 7 64bit / Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 Test: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 / i7 2600K / A lot Of Coolers / Ripjaws Currently / HIS HD7950 IceQ Turbo / Silverstone SST-ST85F-G / Windows 7 64bit / InWin D-Frame Limited Edition

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Motherboard:	Dell In 0G3HR7
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Video Card:	XFX Double D HD-695X-CDFC Radeon HD 6950 2GB
Hard Disk:	Seagate 1.5 TB ST31500
Case:	COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN3-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Ca
PSU:	CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W

Apr 23, 2012, 04:00 PM	#4
CJCerny Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 758 (0.46/day) Thanks: 2 Thanked 213 Times in 178 Posts	Those numbers sound about right.

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sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 19,022 (7.32/day) Thanks: 3,039 Thanked 5,488 Times in 3,951 Posts System Specs	If you look in my specs, I run that rig bone stock with ultra settings on BF3. Not sure what your exact issue is, aside from a little less GPU grunt than I got, but I agree it should run Med to High settings even without any OC. __________________ Hers: ASUS Maximus V Gene / i7 3770K / Swiftech H220 / 4X8GB Corsair Dominators / ASUS GTX660 / Corsair AX-760 / Windows 7 64bit / Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 Test: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 / i7 2600K / A lot Of Coolers / Ripjaws Currently / HIS HD7950 IceQ Turbo / Silverstone SST-ST85F-G / Windows 7 64bit / InWin D-Frame Limited Edition

Apr 23, 2012, 06:51 PM	#10
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theoneandonlymrk Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: republic of mancunia UK Posts: 2,240 (1.91/day) Thanks: 848 Thanked 371 Times in 310 Posts System Specs	big time your psu should be fine i ran two 58xx on a tx850 for a year+ , a tip , I have an old slow sata 40gig drive i have a simple windows build on For My rig ie , whql certified stable drivers for all but not updated or anything, ie a garuateed booter and worker, with a bench or two on , if in doubt i plug it in and boot, youd be amazed at the heartache its saved me as it often looks hardware when its an os corruption or some such thing __________________

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Apr 23, 2012, 07:13 PM	#15
EarthDog Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,052 (1.65/day) Thanks: 246 Thanked 349 Times in 303 Posts System Specs	So this 'lagging' you are experiencing. Can you elaborate on where you are seeing this lagging and describe it more? Do you have Vsync enabled?

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LGV Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 258 (0.30/day) Thanks: 19 Thanked 64 Times in 60 Posts System Specs	I think thets card have 2 gig. Please post cpu-z pic-s. Along with BIOS pic. ( memory, cpu) Would be nice to see the idle temps and in play both on CPU and GPU. Both connector to the GPU ok? check all cables. Then we may could help. good luck __________________ “im looking for a bigger upgrade though so then i won't really have to upgrade anymore in the future” -tuunade98 “That my friend will not happen...” -rickss69

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Apr 23, 2012, 07:58 PM	#19
EarthDog Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,052 (1.65/day) Thanks: 246 Thanked 349 Times in 303 Posts System Specs	Ram speed low, but doubt thats it.... (you arent even at your rated speeds). With FPS around 50, vsync is not enabled, is that correct?

Apr 23, 2012, 08:14 PM	#21
EarthDog Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,052 (1.65/day) Thanks: 246 Thanked 349 Times in 303 Posts System Specs	I didnt ask about different ram.. Im talking about the ram SPEED. You are running it at 1333Mhz vs 1600Mhz its rated for. I doubt thats the issue wnut its worth trying at this point.

Apr 23, 2012, 08:16 PM	#23
EarthDog Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,052 (1.65/day) Thanks: 246 Thanked 349 Times in 303 Posts System Specs	Up the memory multiplier.

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