Flow dramatic drop (water cooled loop)

AceAdey · Jun 29, 2012, 09:11 PM

Hi Guys,

From the title you see my flow has tailed off drastically today and yesterday. Before then it was twice as fierce. Has someone got experience with this?

I checked most of the plumbing and the ones I have checked are sound. I think the pump may have had it. What do you think?

Kind regards,

Adrian

erocker · Jun 29, 2012, 09:21 PM

If the pump is hooked into a motherboard header, can you check RPM's? It may be time to take the loop apart and check for a clog somewhere, especially if you are using some type of coolant or additive.

AceAdey · Jun 29, 2012, 09:36 PM

It's pure H2o or pure water with a dye. Nothing added. I hate taking it apart. At 100% (12V) the RPM in Aquasuite is quote 4,160 RPM. I don't know what it usually is sorry.

erocker · Jun 29, 2012, 09:38 PM

Well, I've seen dyes muck up CPU blocks pretty bad. You may have to take it apart anyways. It's not going to fix itself leaving it alone unfortunately.

AceAdey · Jun 29, 2012, 09:41 PM

Kinda hoping it might.

trickson · Jun 29, 2012, 09:46 PM

Just how do you know that the flow is cut off?

Steevo · Jun 29, 2012, 09:49 PM

algae growth even in pure water.

trickson · Jun 29, 2012, 09:52 PM

Well I have never had any trouble with my loop. I use water wetter straight.

AceAdey · Jun 29, 2012, 09:55 PM

You are right the CPU block has grey gunk inside. Can this be minimised? Might it also be in the GPU block. They don't run as hot mind.

manofthem · Jun 29, 2012, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Well, I've seen dyes muck up CPU blocks pretty bad. You may have to take it apart anyways. It's not going to fix itself leaving it alone unfortunately.

Amen to this, I used a dye once, even though many advise against it, and when I took my fairly new CPU block apart to clean, it was all gunked up, pretty nasty. No more dyes for me

AceAdey · Jun 29, 2012, 10:06 PM

Nothing wrong with the occasional deep clean

pantherx12 · Jun 29, 2012, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceAdey

You are right the CPU block has grey gunk inside. Can this be minimised? Might it also be in the GPU block. They don't run as hot mind.

Don't use dye and add a silver coil to your loop after you've cleaned it and flushed it out.

trickson · Jun 29, 2012, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceAdey

Nothing wrong with the occasional deep clean

I just had mine apart after running it for over 2 years no cleaning and found it spotless!

AceAdey · Jun 29, 2012, 10:13 PM

Are the bio friendly ready to go (already dyed) ones also off limits? Didn't have a problem with one of them brands.

trickson · Jun 29, 2012, 10:17 PM

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc..._&target=shelf

This is what I love to use. Never have a problem ever!

PopcornMachine · Jun 29, 2012, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantherx12

Don't use dye and add a silver coil to your loop after you've cleaned it and flushed it out.

I used some blue fesser fluid, and it looked cool for a while, but then everything turns blue and gets tiresome to deal with. And the stuff is way too expensive.

Now I use distilled water with one of those things. ^

And I rely on colored tubes and lights for effects.

fullinfusion · Jun 29, 2012, 11:07 PM

Im running Distilled water and even have a gram of .999% silver in the loop to ward off algae but now I see a slight film on the walls of the res... Guess it's time to add some Collodial silver to the loop.

Dies are just that, A loop killer. Sure it looks good for a while but it eventually falls outta solution and screws things up.. And your RPM's are good mate!

@ Panther, the silver coil will work only for a while... I'm dealing with it not working anymore.

erocker · Jun 29, 2012, 11:20 PM

After about a year of running straight distilled, I just flushed my loop. Everything is clean.

One good way not to get algae is to make sure no sunlight hits the loop.

fullinfusion · Jun 30, 2012, 12:06 AM

Mine is clean just a slight film on the rez and no sunlight shines anywhere near my loop... I think I need to etch the silver to bring it back to life.

erocker · Jun 30, 2012, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullinfusion

Mine is clean just a slight film on the rez and no sunlight shines anywhere near my loop... I think I need to etch the silver to bring it back to life.

Are you using distilled water? I don't have any silver in my loop.

pantherx12 · Jun 30, 2012, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullinfusion

Im running Distilled water and even have a gram of .999% silver in the loop to ward off algae but now I see a slight film on the walls of the res... Guess it's time to add some Collodial silver to the loop.

Dies are just that, A loop killer. Sure it looks good for a while but it eventually falls outta solution and screws things up.. And your RPM's are good mate!

@ Panther, the silver coil will work only for a while... I'm dealing with it not working anymore.

There could be a debris layer around the silver coil, could be worth cleaning it off and refilling the loop?

nleksan · Jun 30, 2012, 12:45 AM

Straight Redline Water Wetter?!

I swear by the stuff for my cars, especially my track car as it has resulted in about 6degC lower temps on average during the summer, and acts as a corrosion inhibitor for my car running straight distilled water. However, it's in a ratio of one bottle to the entire cooling system of my Bummer (which is heavily upgraded itself, and so with a 75% larger radiator, larger diameter silicone hosing, double-size expansion tank, etc, I can't say for sure what the exact ratio is). I have never seen even 1/2degC benefit from additional Water Wetter, and I monitor the temps via gauges, as well as engine management software records.

I don't doubt one bit that it is an awesome additive for liquid cooling in PCs, but I don't think you will benefit anymore from a 100% Water Wetter loop than you would from a 20:1 or even 40:1 ratio.

fullinfusion · Jun 30, 2012, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantherx12

There could be a debris layer around the silver coil, could be worth cleaning it off and refilling the loop?

Yup, and it's not a cheap coil... It's an actual piece of pure silver that youd buy as if you were buying actual gold pieces.. Im going to clean it and see what happens..

Oh shit I wonder if my UV tube is the problem? But then again UV kills algae! hmm

Quote:

Originally Posted by nleksan

Straight Redline Water Wetter?!

I swear by the stuff for my cars, especially my track car as it has resulted in about 6degC lower temps on average during the summer, and acts as a corrosion inhibitor for my car running straight distilled water. However, it's in a ratio of one bottle to the entire cooling system of my Bummer (which is heavily upgraded itself, and so with a 75% larger radiator, larger diameter silicone hosing, double-size expansion tank, etc, I can't say for sure what the exact ratio is). I have never seen even 1/2degC benefit from additional Water Wetter, and I monitor the temps via gauges, as well as engine management software records.

I don't doubt one bit that it is an awesome additive for liquid cooling in PCs, but I don't think you will benefit anymore from a 100% Water Wetter loop than you would from a 20:1 or even 40:1 ratio.

I agree that additive is awsome... We'd run it in our late model dirt track car and never had any cooling problems what so ever!

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Are you using distilled water? I don't have any silver in my loop.

Always been using Distilled water

20mmrain · Jun 30, 2012, 01:24 AM

I would check for a clog if your pump is running @ 4000 RPM's then it sounds about normal to me.

Look at your tubes are any pinched?

AceAdey · Jun 30, 2012, 09:10 AM

Draining the res and then cleaning the cpu block took no more than 10 minutes. Now the loop is powerful so thanks to the first poster.

Jun 29, 2012, 09:11 PM	#1
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Jun 29, 2012, 09:36 PM	#3
AceAdey Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Derby Posts: 182 (0.27/day) Thanks: 26 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts System Specs	It's pure H2o or pure water with a dye. Nothing added. I hate taking it apart. At 100% (12V) the RPM in Aquasuite is quote 4,160 RPM. I don't know what it usually is sorry. __________________ I bought this off a dude http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=199622

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Jun 29, 2012, 09:21 PM	#2
erocker Senior Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 31,879 (12.78/day) Thanks: 2,779 Thanked 12,249 Times in 7,804 Posts System Specs	If the pump is hooked into a motherboard header, can you check RPM's? It may be time to take the loop apart and check for a clog somewhere, especially if you are using some type of coolant or additive.

Jun 29, 2012, 09:38 PM	#4
erocker Senior Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 31,879 (12.78/day) Thanks: 2,779 Thanked 12,249 Times in 7,804 Posts System Specs	Well, I've seen dyes muck up CPU blocks pretty bad. You may have to take it apart anyways. It's not going to fix itself leaving it alone unfortunately.

Jun 29, 2012, 09:41 PM	#5
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trickson OH, I have such a headache Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Planet Earth. Posts: 6,080 (1.97/day) Thanks: 1,805 Thanked 872 Times in 734 Posts System Specs	Well I have never had any trouble with my loop. I use water wetter straight. __________________ Asus P5Q pro turbo MB , Q9650 @ 4.0GHz water cooled , 8gb Hyper-X RAM @1066MHz , VisionTek HD5870 , Corsair TX850w PSU , Barracuda HDD SATA RAID0 1Tb , Windows 7 pro 64 bit . HeatWare

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fullinfusion 1.21 Gigawatts Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CANADA Posts: 5,448 (2.79/day) Thanks: 2,687 Thanked 1,294 Times in 1,092 Posts System Specs	Im running Distilled water and even have a gram of .999% silver in the loop to ward off algae but now I see a slight film on the walls of the res... Guess it's time to add some Collodial silver to the loop. Dies are just that, A loop killer. Sure it looks good for a while but it eventually falls outta solution and screws things up.. And your RPM's are good mate! @ Panther, the silver coil will work only for a while... I'm dealing with it not working anymore. __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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erocker Senior Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 31,879 (12.78/day) Thanks: 2,779 Thanked 12,249 Times in 7,804 Posts System Specs	After about a year of running straight distilled, I just flushed my loop. Everything is clean. One good way not to get algae is to make sure no sunlight hits the loop.

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fullinfusion 1.21 Gigawatts Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CANADA Posts: 5,448 (2.79/day) Thanks: 2,687 Thanked 1,294 Times in 1,092 Posts System Specs	Mine is clean just a slight film on the rez and no sunlight shines anywhere near my loop... I think I need to etch the silver to bring it back to life. __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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nleksan Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 226 (0.54/day) Thanks: 67 Thanked 29 Times in 29 Posts System Specs	Straight Redline Water Wetter?! I swear by the stuff for my cars, especially my track car as it has resulted in about 6degC lower temps on average during the summer, and acts as a corrosion inhibitor for my car running straight distilled water. However, it's in a ratio of one bottle to the entire cooling system of my Bummer (which is heavily upgraded itself, and so with a 75% larger radiator, larger diameter silicone hosing, double-size expansion tank, etc, I can't say for sure what the exact ratio is). I have never seen even 1/2degC benefit from additional Water Wetter, and I monitor the temps via gauges, as well as engine management software records. I don't doubt one bit that it is an awesome additive for liquid cooling in PCs, but I don't think you will benefit anymore from a 100% Water Wetter loop than you would from a 20:1 or even 40:1 ratio.

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20mmrain Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Midwest USA Posts: 2,397 (1.81/day) Thanks: 475 Thanked 722 Times in 449 Posts System Specs	I would check for a clog if your pump is running @ 4000 RPM's then it sounds about normal to me. Look at your tubes are any pinched? __________________ Heatware 35 + 0 \| 0 -

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AceAdey Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Derby Posts: 182 (0.27/day) Thanks: 26 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts System Specs	Draining the res and then cleaning the cpu block took no more than 10 minutes. Now the loop is powerful so thanks to the first poster.

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