7950 or 670 to upgrade 6950 2GB? Should I?

Jstn7477 · Jun 5, 2012, 03:23 AM

Hey guys,

I apologize if there have been threads before this one about this subject, but I have been seriously considering a new card if I can sell my old one. I've heard different pros and cons about each, but I want to know if anything has really changed in the last month or two.

What I'm looking for/asking:
-A card around $400 (so cheap 7950 or GTX 670). I'd probably pay a bit more for a full size 670 if I were going that route. Is it even worth upgrading? I do get pretty good framerates generally but it does alternate between decent and "stuttery" in many cases.
-Must drive a 1080p 120Hz DL-DVI monitor at 120Hz without any 3D technology enabled, and support 120Hz in all 2D/3D games or tasks. Heard some complaints about the newer cards not being able to do this well or with VSYNC enabled?
-Will be replacing a Sapphire 100312-3SR HD 6950 2GB that has a factory unlocked second BIOS to 6970 @ 800/1250, and will be going in the i7 machine in my system specs. I'd hope to have a noticeable performance boost and equal/lower power consumption if applicable. Would like to OC a bit as well, possibly. I haven't had any real problems with my 6950 driver-wise, and would prefer to not have a card that crashes my system or craps out consistently.

Those are my main concerns. My other concern is what I can probably get for my 6950 2GB factory unlocked on somewhere such as these forums. I still have the box and probably all the accessories as well excluding the Dirt3 coupon (some accessories are unopened). Card has been kept pretty clean, fans are in great shape and there are no VRM burns. Spent much of its time at 840/1325 (CCC limits, stock voltage).

Thanks for any input and help you guys can offer me.

de.das.dude · Jun 5, 2012, 03:35 AM

IMO, its wont be that awesome if you take the 7950.

670 would be good.

but i think you can skip this year and get a new card next year?

fullinfusion · Jun 5, 2012, 03:59 AM

670 without a doubt, unless you want to wait about 5 months for amd 8 series and see what they bring to the table this next time round... but I doubt they'll bring anything IMO

Jstn7477 · Jun 5, 2012, 04:05 AM

Alright, so we have 2/2 votes for the 670 so far. What are used 6950 2GB unlocked cards usually going for these days? And, does this 670 look decent or should I wait a bit for the Windforce or DCUII? EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bi...

Jetster · Jun 5, 2012, 04:06 AM

Tough choice ...put me down for 7950. You might get $210 for your 6950

fullinfusion · Jun 5, 2012, 04:09 AM

^
Haha try $150ish if your lucky

manofthem · Jun 5, 2012, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jstn7477

Alright, so we have 2/2 votes for the 670 so far. What are used 6950 2GB unlocked cards usually going for these days? And, does this 670 look decent or should I wait a bit for the Windforce or DCUII? EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bi...

I've seen them sell on forums between $175 (low end) to probably averaging $190 (I've seen 6970s go for $200). lol, for my unlocked 6950s w/ waterblocks and stock coolers, I only got $484 shipped back in January

Jetster · Jun 5, 2012, 04:11 AM

SAPPHIRE 100352OCSR Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDD...

3 game coupons, non reference

entropy13 · Jun 5, 2012, 04:11 AM

670 hands down. The 7950 doesn't even come close.

Lionheart · Jun 5, 2012, 04:19 AM

I would go with GTX 670 ^_^

fullinfusion · Jun 5, 2012, 04:28 AM

decisions decisions lol

lilhasselhoffer · Jun 5, 2012, 04:37 AM

Why?

Yes, you might see slightly improved performance. Yes, there might be slightly less power draw. The problem is that the answer is slightly in both cases.

You might be able to sell a 6950 for $175. The new ones are going for a little over $200 currently. If you spent $150 on another 6950, and crossfired it, you'd be better than either a 670 or a 7950. The power draw increases, but you can save $200, and get a newer card either when prices drop to reasonable or the next generation hits. As it stands, there is very little reason to blow that kind of money, given that this is only one generation's improvement.

manofthem · Jun 5, 2012, 04:53 AM

What about if you could find a used 7970 for ~$400?

Corduroy_Jr · Jun 5, 2012, 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullinfusion

^
Haha try $150ish if your lucky

wrong not sure what planet your on

DonInKansas · Jun 5, 2012, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jstn7477

Alright, so we have 2/2 votes for the 670 so far. What are used 6950 2GB unlocked cards usually going for these days? And, does this 670 look decent or should I wait a bit for the Windforce or DCUII? EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bi...

W1z and his Perfect 10 would vote for the Asus card.

fullinfusion · Jun 5, 2012, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corduroy_Jr

wrong not sure what planet your on

Its called Planet IKWITASSTFU

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

W1z and his Perfect 10 would vote for the Asus card.

Kiss ass

TRWOV · Jun 5, 2012, 06:16 AM

I don't think it would be worth it if you're coming from an unlocked 6950 2GB. If you had a 1GB model and were you going for the power savings I could see some merit into spending another $200 for a new card (taking into account that an unlocked 6950 goes for ~$170-200 used ) but in your case? Not so much.

I wouldn't bother with it but if you must I would tell you to consider the 7870 instead: it would cost you less and you'd get 95% of the 7950 performance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corduroy_Jr

wrong not sure what planet your on

I've seen auctions end at $132 as I've been trying to get a used one for $130. I'm in no rush to get it since my 6850 plays whatever I throw at it (heck, just one month ago I was using an HD3850 AGP) but now that everyone seems to be selling them I thought I'd take a shot and try to get one for cheap. It uses 20w more on average than my 6850 but has 1.5x the power plus the 2GB would be nice.

Huddo93 · Jun 5, 2012, 08:08 AM

I'd honestly try hold out till the next series from AMD or Nvidia.

If you really have the urge to buy a new GPU then definitely go for the GTX670, the OC'd models or personally OC'd GTX670's beat stock GTX680's and blow the HD7950 out of the water in most titles.

But once again, the performance gains from your HD6950 wont be huge. Gonna be nothing like going from my GTX275 to a GTX670 which I plan to buy in the next few weeks once Australia can finally get there hands on some Asus GTX670 Direct CUII Top cards :P

Outback Bronze · Jun 5, 2012, 08:34 AM

Yer u gotta go the 670 on stock performance. I think youll probably get a reasonable upgrade 2. One 670 is similar to two 6950s so u should go close to doubling your frames. Im itching to get one meself!

AsRock · Jun 5, 2012, 09:13 AM

Go CF if you can if not wait it out... Kinda wondering why you having issue's in games though.

reverze · Jun 6, 2012, 02:56 AM

www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-FX795ATDFC/dp/B00713RT62

pretty hard to beat that deal imo..

Jetster · Jun 6, 2012, 04:04 AM

HIS H795F3G2M Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI...

$365 AMR

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Jstn7477 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sarasota, Florida, USA Posts: 3,115 (2.29/day) Thanks: 384 Thanked 1,177 Times in 799 Posts System Specs	Alright, so we have 2/2 votes for the 670 so far. What are used 6950 2GB unlocked cards usually going for these days? And, does this 670 look decent or should I wait a bit for the Windforce or DCUII? EVGA 02G-P4-2678-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW 2GB 256-bi... __________________ Intel Crunchers (30 threads): 2x 3770K 4.3GHz, 2600K 4GHz, X3210, P-M 735A, P4 3GHz, AMD Crunchers (20 cores):FX-8150 (4t), 1100T 3.6GHz, 1045T 3.4GHz, X3 8550 2.5GHz, T64 ML-37 AMD Folders (6272 GCN cores): 2x 7950 1125/1475, 7970 1150/1650, 7770 NV Folders (2336 GF10x + 1344 GK104 cores):GTX 470 & 465 720/1715, 4x 460 768MB 825/2000, GTS 450, 660Ti 1228/6000 HEATWARE

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Jun 5, 2012, 08:34 AM	#19
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Jun 6, 2012, 02:56 AM	#21
reverze Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,271 (0.65/day) Thanks: 86 Thanked 132 Times in 102 Posts System Specs	www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-FX795ATDFC/dp/B00713RT62 pretty hard to beat that deal imo..

Processor:	AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE Deneb @ 3.7GHz
Motherboard:	GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P
Cooling:	ZALMAN CNPS9700 CPU Heatsink
Memory:	OCZ 4GB DDR3 1600 @ 7-7-7-24 1.85v
Video Card:	ATI Sapphire OC 7850 1200c/5800m @ 64c Full Load
Hard Disk:	Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB + Western Digital 1TB External Drive
Optical Drive:	Pioneer 20X
CRT/LCD Model:	SAMSUNG ToC T240 24'' LCD
Case:	Silverstone FT01-BW
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	ZALMAN ZM-750
Software:	Win 7 x64 SP1

Jun 6, 2012, 04:04 AM	#22
Jetster Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,858 (2.35/day) Thanks: 924 Thanked 851 Times in 624 Posts System Specs	HIS H795F3G2M Radeon HD 7950 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI... $365 AMR

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