Apple Introduces All New MacBook Pro with Retina Display

[johnnyfiive]

Really awesome display and laptop altogether, Apple always getting it done when it comes to build quality and features. My only question is, how is Diablo 3 going to run at 2880x1800 on a GT650 1GB card? Of course you can always lower the resolution, but I'm definitely curious to see how it does at the native res.

[Kantastic]

Unless Asus or Samsung can come up with something close, I might finally pay a visit to the Apple store in anticipation of college.

[phanbuey]

I wish they would refresh the 13" line with the higher spec screen. My current 13" is a beast that I can upgrade to 16GB of ram, with the 128GB SSD and a creappy 1280x800 screen.

A $1,400 mid range variant with the nice screen would be fantastic.

[Crap Daddy]

About that resolution. Can somebody explain to me what is the difference between digital resolution and VGA resolution since in GT650M specs it say max for digital 3840 x 2160 and max for VGA 2048x1536? And how can you see the icons at that res on a 15" screen?

[vanyots]

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

About that resolution. Can somebody explain to me what is the difference between digital resolution and VGA resolution since in GT650M specs it say max for digital 3840 x 2160 and max for VGA 2048x1536? And how can you see the icons at that res on a 15" screen?

Digital is the resolution you get out of your digital outputs(DVI, HDMI, DislayPort), and VGA is he analog resolution from the VGA port.

And icons can scale too, and can be 64x64 or even 256x256 pixels

[phanbuey]

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

About that resolution. Can somebody explain to me what is the difference between digital resolution and VGA resolution since in GT650M specs it say max for digital 3840 x 2160 and max for VGA 2048x1536? And how can you see the icons at that res on a 15" screen?

VGA refers to a video feed that is going from an analog VGA cable (it is the smaller monitor cable, usually has a blue port) it is an older standard. The limit of the resolution is a result of the cable and not the card.

You can see the icons because OSX uses different DPI scaling than windows. Everything up sizes correctly, so you just have super sharp display without needing a magnifying glass.

[Soylent Joe]

Goddammit I'm so happy there's still such an innovative company like Apple around. As long as the prices don't go up between generations, I'm planning on getting a 13" 2012 MBP.

[phanbuey]

Originally Posted by Soylent Joe

Goddammit I'm so happy there's still such an innovative company like Apple around. As long as the prices don't go up between generations, I'm planning on getting a 13" 2012 MBP.

They haven't updated the 13" with the goodies tho. If they could stuff a 650M and a dual core ivy with even a 1440x900 screen (like the current air screen) I would totally go for it.

[Soylent Joe]

Originally Posted by phanbuey

They haven't updated the 13" with the goodies tho. If they could stuff a 650M and a dual core ivy with even a 1440x900 screen (like the current air screen) I would totally go for it.

Yeah I just saw that. Nothing very exciting with the 13". Probably will make a pass until they release a 13" high res edition.

[Wrigleyvillain]

Originally Posted by Soylent Joe

Goddammit I'm so happy there's still such an innovative company like Apple around. As long as the prices don't go up between generations, I'm planning on getting a 13" 2012 MBP.

Wait...what forum is this?

Man too bad it's not the fat cat days around work anymore; we'd be getting a whole bunch of these. Seeing in person might be worth a lunchtime trip to the Apple store.

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by Wrigleyvillain

Wait...what forum is this?

Already placed my order.

2.6/16gb ram/512 SSD.

This is my work-top though. I will use the shit out of every 1 and 0 it can process. Time to put my Developer account to work!

[Steevo]

I admit, crapple may be the scum of the earth but that display is supah smooth.

[Dippyskoodlez]

NOTE TO ANYONE ORDERING: THE MEMORY IS SOLDERED IN MACBOOK AIR STYLE.

Order it with what you'll want.


INB4HATERS:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5688/a...2012-review/13

Its crazy we're getting to the point that sockets are impairing our battery life :O

Its little details like this, that I really admire the people that get to work on those projects.

[OneCool]

Starting at $2800


To rich for my blood

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by OneCool

Starting at $2800


To rich for my blood

$2199 not $2800. Just over baseline Macbook Pro price.

[FordGT90Concept]

Originally Posted by Completely Bonkers

Job well done. Now come on PC competition. Where the hell are those high res displays for laptop and for desktop??? Hmmm? Here's looking at you, you lame PC OEMs.

Most consumers think they're useless/not willing to pay for it. High res screens have been available for a long time but only the professional market buy them (specifically radiology) because they are cost prohibitive.

Put bluntly, only Apple can get away with selling $500+ monitors included (thanks to brand loyalty) with the computer price whereas Dell, HP, Lenovo, Acer, etc. cannot. The bulk of their computer sells come in at half the price Apple sells for.

[radrok]

Good Apple, now sell me a 30" 4K res Cinema Display with Dual-Dual-DVI and I'll be veeery happy, heck even a 27" 2880x1800 would be good.

[repman244]

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Put bluntly, only Apple can get away with selling $500 monitors included (thanks to brand loyalty) with the computer price whereas Dell, HP, Lenovo, Acer, etc. cannot.

You have an option of a 10-bit IPS DreamColor panel with HP's elitebook workstations which costs around $400-500, can't remember if Dell and Lenovo offer such panel as well.
The fact is that there are much better laptops (hardware/component wise) that cost 2-3 times more than MBP, but they mostly don't come in such small thickness (I'm talking about workstation laptops) and battery life suffers as well.

[FordGT90Concept]

The "DreamColor" laptops are aimed at graphics/video professionals as they come with Quadro/FirePro cards (adds about 400-500% to the cost of graphics alone). DreamColor is also only up to 1920x1080 on the screen I'm looking at: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...dTypeId=321957

Mac Book Pro doesn't even come close to the offerings of the Quadro/FirePro. Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't even get a Quadro/FirePro in an Apple product (even the $2500+ Mac Pro). This is why graphics designers are moving increasingly to Windows-based computers. Adobe, specifically, requires NVIDIA Quadro (CUDA cores) for some components of their master suite.

[repman244]

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

The "DreamColor" laptops are aimed at graphics/video professionals as they come with Quadro/FirePro cards (adds about 400-500% to the cost of graphics alone). DreamColor is also only up to 1920x1080 on the screen I'm looking at: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...dTypeId=321957

Mac Book Pro doesn't even come close to the offerings of the Quadro/FirePro. Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't even get a Quadro/FirePro in an Apple product. This is why graphics designers are moving increasingly to Windows-based computers. Adobe, specifically, requires NVIDIA Quadro (CUDA cores) for some components of their master suite.

Yes they are exotic but the colour reproduction is amazing. Yes maximum resolution is 1080p and to even use it you need a FirePro/Quadro to enable 10-bit support, but all workstation models come with either a FirePro or a Quadro.

I don't know about Apple's "desktop" line of computers but no there are no FirePro/Quadro for laptops.
About CUDA, AFAIK a normal gaming card is better in CUDA due to higher clocks compared to Quadro which is more optimized for OpenGL. Although I could be very wrong since I don't have a Quadro card...

[anonymous6366]

Not an apple fan but that laptop is gonna be baller. Of course its overpriced as shit though lol

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Mac Book Pro doesn't even come close to the offerings of the Quadro/FirePro. Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't even get a Quadro/FirePro in an Apple product (even the $2500+ Mac Pro). This is why graphics designers are moving increasingly to Windows-based computers. Adobe, specifically, requires NVIDIA Quadro (CUDA cores) for some components of their master suite.

iirc Adobe products on OS X don't require Quadro(which would be stupid, since theres only ever been like 2-3 ever made since the Intel transition.). I could be wrong.

They also work on Ati GPU's, whereas on Windows they do not.

[OneCool]

Originally Posted by Dippyskoodlez

$2199 not $2800. Just over baseline Macbook Pro price.

$2200

Too rich for my blood

I mean come on how much you think Apple will have in that thing with parts,labor,shipping and r&d cost...hell even through in marketing?I bet they still make close too a grand on each one

BTW if you show up at your local coffee house with only a 256 ssd in your MacBook fucking PRO you will be laughed at....soo much so they will black ball you for ever!!

[FordGT90Concept]

Originally Posted by Dippyskoodlez

iirc Adobe products on OS X don't require Quadro(which would be stupid, since theres only ever been like 2-3 ever made since the Intel transition.). I could be wrong.

They also work on Ati GPU's, whereas on Windows they do not.

http://www.adobe.com/products/creati...ech-specs.html

Windows:
•Dedicated GPU card required for SpeedGrade (for optimal performance in SpeedGrade and for GPU-accelerated features in Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects: NVIDIA Quadro 4000, 5000, or 6000 or other Adobe-certified GPU card with at least 1GB of VRAM recommended); visit www.adobe.com/products/premiere/extend.html for supported cards

Mac OS:
•Dedicated GPU card recommended (for optimal performance in SpeedGrade and for GPU-accelerated features in Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects: NVIDIA Quadro 4000 or other Adobe-certified GPU card with at least 1GB of VRAM recommended); visit www.adobe.com/products/premiere/extend.html for supported cards

SpeedGrade requires CUDA and they recommend Quadro because of driver optimizations for Adobe products.

SpeedGrade specifically: http://www.adobe.com/products/speedg...ech-specs.html

Windows:
•Dedicated GPU card with at least 1GB VRAM (NVIDIA Quadro 4000, 5000, or 6000 recommended)

Mac OS:
•Dedicated GPU card with at least 1GB of VRAM recommended (for optimal performance: NVIDIA Quadro 4000 for Mac)

PNY makes the Quadro 4000 for Mac. That's your only choice though. It's the only Quadro card, as far as I can tell, that NVIDIA makes Mac drivers for.

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

PNY makes the Quadro 4000 for Mac. That's your only choice though. It's the only Quadro card, as far as I can tell, that NVIDIA makes Mac drivers for.

Given the GT 650 just appeared for Macs, would stand to reason they just need to add it to the list.

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