AMD FX-8150 Temps

[Jetster]

A friend of mine just set up a AMD FX-8150 with a 212-EVO and is getting temps with prime at 100c. I told him to reseat the HS but them I thought I would ask. Thats high right?

No overclock and he knows how to use thermal paste

Sincerely, not an AMD fan

[1nf3rn0x]

Originally Posted by Jetster

A friend of mine just set up a AMD FX-8150 with a 212-EVO and is getting temps with prime at 100c. I told him to reseat the HS but them I thought I would ask. Thats high right?

No overclock and he knows how to use thermal paste

Sincerely, not an AMD fan

Borked sensor. It would have fried at those temps. Max temps are around 60 celcius if I remember correctly.

[eidairaman1]

ensure there is no label/cover or a thin plastic strip on the bottom of the heatsink

[Jetster]

Ok so he has used the board and heatsink with a Phenom II So the temp were good and the 212 evo worked ok too. Are the sensors in the chip or on the board. I thought they were on the board? But not sure

And would the 8150 Throttle at that temp?

I talked to him. Hes going to use a thermal IR gun to check the temps. He also told me he never checked the temps with the Phenom II

[1nf3rn0x]

Originally Posted by Jetster

Ok so he has used the board and heatsink with a Phenom II So the temp were good and the 212 evo worked ok too. Are the sensors in the chip or on the board. I thought they were on the board? But not sure

And would the 8150 Throttle at that temp?

I talked to him. Hes going to use a thermal IR gun to check the temps. He also told me he never checked the temps with the Phenom II

Temp sensor is within the cpu itself.

[de.das.dude]

use speedfan.

[Aquinus]

Remove the cooler, clean off the CPU and cooler using isopropyl alcohol and do not touch the surfaces after they're cleaned and dried. Apply thermal compound the size of a pea to the center of the CPU and do not spread it. Put the cooler on the CPU and attach it. The force from attaching the cooler will spread the thermal compound from the center eliminating air bubbles. Also only a small amount of thermal compound is needed, once it spreads out it will make a very thin layer. Also make sure the cooler is properly fastened to the motherboard. 100*C also sounds really high. Are you sure it's not reporting Fahrenheit? I would give Throttle Stop, Core Temp, and Speed Fan a try and see if they all say the same thing.

When you restart the computer what does the BIOS report for temperatures?

[Widjaja]

Buy an IR temp reader if you can, or your friend and check it.
Pretty handy to have around.

[Daimus]

Originally Posted by 1nf3rn0x

Borked sensor. It would have fried at those temps. Max temps are around 60 celcius if I remember correctly.

+1 for defective sensor on mobo.

Originally Posted by Jetster

And would the 8150 Throttle at that temp?

Depends on the motherboard and BIOS setup.
In fact, CPU had to melt at that temperature.
Is a cooler radiator to the touch hot?

[lindy]

I'm having the same problem with my 8150, runaway temps. with default core volt settings (1.28v.).
The more I play around with it, the more I'm coming to the conclusion that the sensor on the chip is fubar. It's just scary seeing temps. that indicate that the CPU is slag, but the thing of it is, is that I'm not getting any errors, or BSOD's even when the temps go past 90deg.C. At that point Prime95 should be throwing a ton of errors, and the CPU should have started throttling back before it got to that point, but I'm not seeing any of that. The chip just chugs along fat dumb, and happy! I've popped the side cover off the case and touched the heatsink, it's warm for sure, but not hot.

A friend of mine just set up a AMD FX-8150 with a 212-EVO and is getting temps with prime at 100c. I told him to reseat the HS but them I thought I would ask. Thats high right?

Yea, that's high . I'm running the same heatsink on my 8150, and I've tried a few different TIM's all with the same result. If your buddy is really concerned about the temps. he can try dropping the the core volts to 1.18v, I've done this and have been able to keep the temps. under 60degC. without any great hit in performance, he just won't be doing any over clocking. He may also want to disable Turbo, Cool & Quiet, and APM as well. AMD states that the max. temp. for the FX chips is 61dec.C, but also admits that there is a good deal of safety margin built into that number.

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by lindy

I'm having the same problem with my 8150, runaway temps. with default core volt settings (1.28v.).
The more I play around with it, the more I'm coming to the conclusion that the sensor on the chip is fubar. It's just scary seeing temps. that indicate that the CPU is slag, but the thing of it is, is that I'm not getting any errors, or BSOD's even when the temps go past 90deg.C. At that point Prime95 should be throwing a ton of errors, and the CPU should have started throttling back before it got to that point, but I'm not seeing any of that. The chip just chugs along fat dumb, and happy! I've popped the side cover off the case and touched the heatsink, it's warm for sure, but not hot.


Yea, that's high . I'm running the same heatsink on my 8150, and I've tried a few different TIM's all with the same result. If your buddy is really concerned about the temps. he can try dropping the the core volts to 1.18v, I've done this and have been able to keep the temps. under 60degC. without any great hit in performance, he just won't be doing any over clocking. He may also want to disable Turbo, Cool & Quiet, and APM as well. AMD states that the max. temp. for the FX chips is 61dec.C, but also admits that there is a good deal of safety margin built into that number.

Is there a discrepency between the temperature reported in the bios and whatever tool you're using to check the temperature in Windows when the system is idle? It is possible that the offset for the sensor is incorrect.

[lindy]

Originally Posted by Aquinus

Is there a discrepency between the temperature reported in the bios and whatever tool you're using to check the temperature in Windows when the system is idle? It is possible that the offset for the sensor is incorrect.

No, I'm using AMD Overdrive to monitor the temps. as it reports the same temps. as the BIO's. Because of the differences in the way Intel and AMD chips report temps many apps that are Intel centric like Fan Speed, and HWMonitor will report temps. that are below ambient.

[lindy]

@Jetster-- your buddy may want to file a warranty claim with AMD. I've done some more digging around the 'net and testing on my 8150 and have come to the conclusion that I have a bum chip.
While the software I was using to monitor temps. was accurate enough it was monitoring the cpu temp. and not the core temps. I did some testing using Core Temp 1.0 RC3 which lists the FX processors in it's compatibility list. CPU temps can (and do) run about 10deg. higher than the core temps., and it's the core temps. you want to be concerned with. When I previously ran tests I'd shut it down when the temps went over 85deg.C so that would have made the true core temps at around 75deg.C which is still way too high, but not not high enough to start throwing errors. This time around monitoring with both Core Temp and AMD Overdrive when Core Temp reported 90 Overdrive read 110. At this point the CPU shutdown and the computer locked up tighter 'n Dick's hatband dere eh! I've since dropped the CPU volts to 1.18v since this will keep me in the safe zone, and I'd recommend that your friend do the same until he can get his RMA approved.

[Jetster]

He has some follow up to do. Then he may RMA it.

[lindy]

Originally Posted by Jetster

He has some follow up to do. Then he may RMA it.

Okay, yea I'm dusting off the old Athlon II x3 in anticipation of of RMA =\

[Jetster]

Ok, so just to clear up this thread. It wasn't a heat problem. He was reading Fahrenheit. I think someone asked that in the thread so that's what it turned out to be.

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by Jetster

Ok, so just to clear up this thread. It wasn't a heat problem. He was reading Fahrenheit. I think someone asked that in the thread so that's what it turned out to be.

Nice

32 F is 0 C Water Freeze

212 F is 100 C Water Boil

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Glad it was user error and not a bad proc.