An experiment.. new Seagate 2tb vs old WD black 1tb

johnspack · Jun 28, 2012, 06:57 AM

My need to increase my storage space finally trumped all other computer desires... I just ordered one of the new Seagate Barracuda 2tb 1tb platter hds for $109can.... from what I've seen, it can probably beat my WD 1tb black.... any info? These new Seagates run 7200 rpm ect.... and yes, it's a Seagate, let's not go there.

Sinzia · Jun 28, 2012, 07:16 AM

Whats the model number on it, John? I'm curious cause I have one of those early 2 TB multi-platter monsters and its slowly dying.

johnspack · Jun 28, 2012, 07:32 AM

ST2000DM001. It's this one: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66010&...acture=Seagate

johnspack · Jun 28, 2012, 07:33 AM

God I hope I don't end up regretting this purchase!

H82LUZ73 · Jun 28, 2012, 07:34 AM

I think John is talking about the 1tb per platter Seagate,Yours might be from the old days of 4 platters =500gb=2tb and why it is slowly dieing is from too many mechanical parts. With the new ones it is faster.Been looking at them myself for an upgrade.

See this video of one working .http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=042241

You see this video has the 3tb and it shows 3 readers on each platter.less moving parts =higher read wright times.

johnspack · Jun 28, 2012, 07:35 AM

Yep, that's why I pulled the trigger on this gen Seagate....

erocker · Jun 28, 2012, 07:36 AM

Good drive. You won't notice (shouldn't notice) a difference between the Seagate and the WD.

johnspack · Jun 28, 2012, 07:37 AM

Didn't think so, thanks for confirming that!

H82LUZ73 · Jun 28, 2012, 07:40 AM

John post up some performance times and just your opinion on it when you install it.I have been waiting for the prices to drop in Ontario .

Oh and this noise is the relay switch between the readers ...Nothing to worries about.Rather it make some noise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt6asKkMJq0

johnspack · Jun 28, 2012, 07:55 AM

No probs, I should have it Friday morning... I'm in the middle of nowhere, so I have to order everything online.....

johnspack · Jun 28, 2012, 08:37 AM

Any takers that this new Seagate does 20% higher throughput than my WD black?

johnspack · Jul 3, 2012, 04:05 AM

Am still doing this, NCIX shipped late, so I get the drive tomorrow.
Edit: stupid Canada Day, I really wanted to play with this drive!

johnspack · Jul 4, 2012, 06:04 AM

Well, guess I'll throw some benchies out there.. Atto first...
WD Black 1TB:

Seagate 2TB:

HDTune Pro, WD Black 1TB:

Seagate 2TB:

H82LUZ73 · Jul 4, 2012, 07:23 AM

wow that is fast like 30mb faster in transfer rate fast...I going to save my money and get one.Thanks for the post John.Any noises from it like the noise in the video above?

james888 · Jul 4, 2012, 07:44 AM

My 500gb wd black is faster than your seagate. Its also only a year old and 500gb.

johnspack · Jul 4, 2012, 03:23 PM

I had it running in my server while I was prepping it... you should make sure to update firmware to cc4h before you do anything... so I could listen to it, and it was silent the whole time. Now it's in my main box which covers up any sounds with fan noise. As for the 500gb, did you see how throughput degrades as it goes through the test toward 1tb? As you can see I do have the 1tb wd black, if you took the benchmark figures to 500gb, I bet it's the same or better.

cadaveca · Jul 4, 2012, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H82LUZ73

wow that is fast like 30mb faster in transfer rate fast...I going to save my money and get one.Thanks for the post John.Any noises from it like the noise in the video above?

My "Green" 5400 RPM version of this drive John got is just as fast as that 1TB black drive.

Good choice, John!

james888 · Jul 4, 2012, 11:34 PM

I was wrong. Found my old benchmark data for it.
Benchmarked it with HD Tach version 2.70:
Random access Time: 15.5 ms
Burst speed: 221.8 MB/s
Average read speed: 102.4 Mb/s
Maximum Speed: 138.1 Mb/s
Minimum Speed: 62.9 Mb/s

Widjaja · Jul 5, 2012, 01:43 AM

How does the seek noise compare to the WD Black?

Probably a silly question.

My Older WD Black 1TB FALS is a noisy bugger.

Jun 28, 2012, 06:57 AM	#1
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	An experiment.. new Seagate 2tb vs old WD black 1tb My need to increase my storage space finally trumped all other computer desires... I just ordered one of the new Seagate Barracuda 2tb 1tb platter hds for $109can.... from what I've seen, it can probably beat my WD 1tb black.... any info? These new Seagates run 7200 rpm ect.... and yes, it's a Seagate, let's not go there. __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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Jun 28, 2012, 07:16 AM	#2
Sinzia Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 703 (0.73/day) Thanks: 88 Thanked 184 Times in 135 Posts System Specs	Whats the model number on it, John? I'm curious cause I have one of those early 2 TB multi-platter monsters and its slowly dying. __________________

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H82LUZ73 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cobourg,Ontario Posts: 1,359 (0.72/day) Thanks: 1,134 Thanked 248 Times in 205 Posts System Specs	I think John is talking about the 1tb per platter Seagate,Yours might be from the old days of 4 platters =500gb=2tb and why it is slowly dieing is from too many mechanical parts. With the new ones it is faster.Been looking at them myself for an upgrade. See this video of one working .http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=042241 You see this video has the 3tb and it shows 3 readers on each platter.less moving parts =higher read wright times.

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Jun 28, 2012, 07:35 AM	#6
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Yep, that's why I pulled the trigger on this gen Seagate.... __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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erocker Senior Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 31,911 (12.77/day) Thanks: 2,783 Thanked 12,275 Times in 7,814 Posts System Specs	Good drive. You won't notice (shouldn't notice) a difference between the Seagate and the WD.

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Jun 28, 2012, 07:37 AM	#8
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Didn't think so, thanks for confirming that! __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

Jun 28, 2012, 07:40 AM	#9
H82LUZ73 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cobourg,Ontario Posts: 1,359 (0.72/day) Thanks: 1,134 Thanked 248 Times in 205 Posts System Specs	John post up some performance times and just your opinion on it when you install it.I have been waiting for the prices to drop in Ontario . Oh and this noise is the relay switch between the readers ...Nothing to worries about.Rather it make some noise. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt6asKkMJq0 Last edited by H82LUZ73; Jun 28, 2012 at 07:55 AM.

Jun 28, 2012, 07:55 AM	#10
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	No probs, I should have it Friday morning... I'm in the middle of nowhere, so I have to order everything online..... __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Any takers that this new Seagate does 20% higher throughput than my WD black? __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Am still doing this, NCIX shipped late, so I get the drive tomorrow. Edit: stupid Canada Day, I really wanted to play with this drive! __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260 Last edited by johnspack; Jul 3, 2012 at 04:16 AM.

Jul 4, 2012, 06:04 AM	#13
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Well, guess I'll throw some benchies out there.. Atto first... WD Black 1TB: Seagate 2TB: HDTune Pro, WD Black 1TB: Seagate 2TB: __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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H82LUZ73 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cobourg,Ontario Posts: 1,359 (0.72/day) Thanks: 1,134 Thanked 248 Times in 205 Posts System Specs	wow that is fast like 30mb faster in transfer rate fast...I going to save my money and get one.Thanks for the post John.Any noises from it like the noise in the video above?

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Jul 4, 2012, 03:23 PM	#16
johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,724 (1.81/day) Thanks: 282 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	I had it running in my server while I was prepping it... you should make sure to update firmware to cc4h before you do anything... so I could listen to it, and it was silent the whole time. Now it's in my main box which covers up any sounds with fan noise. As for the 500gb, did you see how throughput degrades as it goes through the test toward 1tb? As you can see I do have the 1tb wd black, if you took the benchmark figures to 500gb, I bet it's the same or better. __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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Jul 4, 2012, 11:34 PM	#18
james888 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,258 (3.25/day) Thanks: 445 Thanked 426 Times in 318 Posts System Specs	I was wrong. Found my old benchmark data for it. Benchmarked it with HD Tach version 2.70: Random access Time: 15.5 ms Burst speed: 221.8 MB/s Average read speed: 102.4 Mb/s Maximum Speed: 138.1 Mb/s Minimum Speed: 62.9 Mb/s __________________ My Heat Natural Selection 2 (NS2) - FPS/RTS with depth. Link. Studios and publishers seem to have forgotten that games are supposed to be games, not CG films with playable action scenes. Link.

Jul 5, 2012, 01:43 AM	#19
Widjaja Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wangas, New Zealand Posts: 4,019 (1.85/day) Thanks: 240 Thanked 617 Times in 534 Posts System Specs	How does the seek noise compare to the WD Black? Probably a silly question. My Older WD Black 1TB FALS is a noisy bugger.

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