[WARNING] Read this if you have Java

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by OneMoar

I am not gonna argue with you you are wrong just because you are not a
s good as I am and are not capable of understanding it on the same level as me does not make you correct ... or even close. I have worked on plenty of AV infected machines and have very rarely resorted to having to use a AV scanner to resolve the issue if you belive there exists a single malware or virus or rootkit that can go undetected with out some crappy bloated Av software telling you that my computer should not be establishing a connection on port 31337 to some ip in china well then I feel sorry for you or need to have it tell me that i should not have processes attempting to hook into system services with strange handles
you have a ways to go before you get to my level

dude go get malwarebytes and do a full system scan. I did that the night before this all happened and i didnt think I had malware but I had a few things on just a 2 year install of windows.

[OneMoar]

Originally Posted by nvidiaintelftw

dude go get malwarebytes and do a full system scan. I did that the night before this all happened and i didnt think I had malware but I had a few things on just a 2 year install of windows.

sorry but virus's and malware and rootkits are not the big bad boogiemen mailman likes to pretend they are because he can't keep his system clean(must be all the p0rn toolbar's he installs)
I know for a FACT that my system is cleaner then the inside of a bottle of bleach
none of my personal machines have seen so much as a copy of mywebsearch since like 2004
just to humor you I will install mAb and run a system scan ...
if your system is properly setup and you use Chrome Or firefox with ADBlock+ it is DAM hard to get infected with anything unless you download something and execute it without looking

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by OneMoar

sorry but virus's and malware and rootkits are not the big bad boogiemen mailman likes to pretend they are because he can't keep his system clean(must be all the p0rn toolbar's he installs)
I know for a FACT that my system is cleaner then the inside of a bottle of bleach
none of my personal machines have seen so much as a copy of mywebsearch since like 2004
just to humor you I will install mAb and run a system scan ...
if your system is properly setup and you use Chrome Or firefox with ADBlock+ it is DAM hard to get infected with anything unless you download something and execute it without looking

So much faith in yourself. I wish I can go back to those innocent days after reading up on professional hackers' exploits in the net.

You have not seen a virus since 2004 does not mean your pc does not have any. Ask anyone with AIDS, they know better.

[OneMoar]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

So much faith in yourself. I wish I can go back to those innocent days after reading up on professional hackers' exploits in the net.

You have not seen a virus since 2004 does not mean your pc does not have any. Ask anyone with AIDS, they know better.

YES IT DOES
someone with aids will eventually display some symptoms I am sure of my self for a reason because I know I am right ... if I wasn't sure I would not post it
id love to see these posts from this "professional hacker" I could use a laugh
protip anything that relies on known exploits or bugs in code was not written by a pro the "pros" don't share there exploits with other people not the black hats anyway

[OneMoar]

the paranoia people get when the word "virus" or "Malware" is mentioned never ceases to astound and baffle me its a program like every-other bit of code it does what its written todo there is no "magic" or "scary evil hackers sitting in front of there monitor watching you" I attributed the over reaction to peoples lack of understanding on why virus's are created and what the majority are written todo
http://cl.ly/IUkV so you can freak out and panic and run for the false comfort of you're AVG's and Nortans ill stick to monitoring my machine with good old administrator senses and my delete key

And FOR THE RECORD NO coder worth his keyboard bothers with screwing around in the MBR anymore its to much effort to inject code into the mbr and have it not brick a whole bunch of machines the goal is not usually to stop the machine from functioning the goal to either harvest data or turn the machine into a bot making it not boot would be counter productive

[OneMoar]

the goal of a "hacker" is normally one of the following
1: turn the target machine into a bot todo his or her bidding
2: harvest data passwords login info cc's ect ect
3: denial of service/functionality
4: finding exploits and seeing what kind entertaining and possibly menacing things you can do ...
and more to the point very VERY VERY rarely is a Particular end-user specifically targeted unless you have valuable information OR access to valuable information OR you made the mistake of pissing said hacker's off and angered the hive ...

[pantherx12]

@ Onemore, there's plenty of viruses that don't have symptoms dude, just like IRL viruses they'll slowly work there way through your system causing mischief. ( I know it's caused by a bacteria, but Gonorrhea potentially has no symptoms and you can be fine for years and then go blind, huzzah! Computer viruses can function in a similar way)

And I don't mean to be mean, but how can you be so confident in your ability when you can't find the edit button


Also I HATE java ( but it's needed for so much crap) The only bad virus I ever got was installed ( didn't even get a chance to react it was almost instantaneous) via java ( was browsing a new pron site) and it very nearly royally fucked over my system.

( disabled EVERYTHING, just had a splash screen saying something along the lines of " YOU BROKE THE LAW, SEND MONEY! and had some fake police notice/logo etc)


Took me 8 hours to get rid of the god-damn thing.



Note to other folks, considering decent anti viruses barely use any system resources and are not really very invasive it's always worth installing them.

I use Microsoft own ( MSE) and it does an outstanding job, even protects against web based attack and it's free.

[Drone]

What is this all about? "ZOMG there is a java exploit! People beware! We're all gonna die!" I mean what's the point? It's no news, there's a lot of exploits and there's a lot of unsavory people who's gonna click some unsavory links or run some exes which they find in their emails.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by pantherx12

And I don't mean to be mean, but how can you be so confident in your ability when you can't find the edit button

Shhhh Hes on a roll. Next he will be telling us about when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

[brandonwh64]

Should we all don our tin foil hats?

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by OneMoar

YES IT DOES
someone with aids will eventually display some symptoms I am sure of my self for a reason because I know I am right ... if I wasn't sure I would not post it
id love to see these posts from this "professional hacker" I could use a laugh
protip anything that relies on known exploits or bugs in code was not written by a pro the "pros" don't share there exploits with other people not the black hats anyway

Yup, by the time you see the symptoms its too late, the damage has been done. Luckily we live in a democratic world, so you can choose what you think is good for you. The worst which can happen to us is that you become a virus vector, in which case shame on us for not able to convince you to use some protection.

Also, its exceedingly bad manners to triple post when you have 1.5k posts, unless someone set you up, in which case I apologise for my rudeness.

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Should we all don our tin foil hats?

There is no need, just run MSE.

[acerace]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Shhhh Hes on a roll. Next he will be telling us about when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by pantherx12

@ Onemore, there's plenty of viruses that don't have symptoms dude, just like IRL viruses they'll slowly work there way through your system causing mischief. ( I know it's caused by a bacteria, but Gonorrhea potentially has no symptoms and you can be fine for years and then go blind, huzzah! Computer viruses can function in a similar way)

And I don't mean to be mean, but how can you be so confident in your ability when you can't find the edit button


Also I HATE java ( but it's needed for so much crap) The only bad virus I ever got was installed ( didn't even get a chance to react it was almost instantaneous) via java ( was browsing a new pron site) and it very nearly royally fucked over my system.

( disabled EVERYTHING, just had a splash screen saying something along the lines of " YOU BROKE THE LAW, SEND MONEY! and had some fake police notice/logo etc)


Took me 8 hours to get rid of the god-damn thing.


My system is up and running again with a clean install of windows 7 with MSE. I can't wait till Onemoar posts in this thread in the future saying he got a massive virus and that we were all right hahah! that'll make my day for days to come.


Note to other folks, considering decent anti viruses barely use any system resources and are not really very invasive it's always worth installing them.

I use Microsoft own ( MSE) and it does an outstanding job, even protects against web based attack and it's free.

I was just about to say the same exact thing lol.

[pantherx12]

@nvidiaintel

I think you messed your post up you added this to my quote instead of your post XD

"My system is up and running again with a clean install of windows 7 with MSE. I can't wait till Onemoar posts in this thread in the future saying he got a massive virus and that we were all right hahah! that'll make my day for days to come."

[OneMoar]

Originally Posted by pantherx12

@nvidiaintel

I think you messed your post up you added this to my quote instead of your post XD

"My system is up and running again with a clean install of windows 7 with MSE. I can't wait till Onemoar posts in this thread in the future saying he got a massive virus and that we were all right hahah! that'll make my day for days to come."

I feel bad for you its gotta be tough not being as awesome as me
also anyone that "blames java" for there "virus" problems is
... ignorant
most java exploits are patched out fairly quick and back in the day the vast majority of java-born viruses where due to people allowing the applets to execute and and heaven forbid the countless holes in IE6/7/ff before sand-boxing was common in the browser-wars

I don't get viruses ever sorry I know its hard to believe you like to think you know what you are doing and are :gud with cumputers: you aren't Av software is for Users that blindly click though porn sites and download everything that offers access to free porn
or run outdated versions of windows xp with IE6. ..... or though there own folly execute something with infected with malware by your own admission the only "bad" virus you ever got what though your own doing ... and by the sound of if it AV would not have protected you

[acerace]

@OneMoar I take it you also have a large lungs. I don't think there's anyone on Earth except you that can read that wall of text in one breath.

[_JP_]

Originally Posted by OneMoar

if your system is properly setup and you use Chrome Or firefox with ADBlock+ it is DAM hard to get infected with anything unless you download something and execute it without looking

I have ESET SS5, Firefox 13 and AdBlock+ updated every 1st day of the month and, unfortunately, Java 6 U 31.
Last Wednesday, I was at website that I visit frequently and out of nowhere, my firewall asks me for permition for a "Insertions 2008" executable to connect to to internet. Obviously, since I didn't know I had this executable, I blocked it (set a rule). Beforethat, no downloads, no prompts, nothing. It was a virus that took advantage of a Java exploit to enter my computer.
This bastard, right here.
Busted, lol

The virus itself wasn't picked-up, because it's recent, I guess, but it was enough to make me quarantine my computer and almost nuke it.
The behavior of this one seems to be that, if it manages to connect to the internet, it will then download additional EXEs and start messing up your stuff.
Possible files/directories:

C:\Users\<username>\Appdata\Roaming\Ycsuon\gyroof. exe
C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Caymsao\uzihac o.yxe

The thing is, it was late...around 2 AM, so I just sorta ignored it, closed firefox and ran CCleaner before I turned off my computer. The next day I ran pretty much every software at my disposable and found nothing.
From that I can gather, if you don't let it connect to the internet, it will stay in the temp folder. I ran CCleaner, which deletes permanently all the stuff there. I guess that was what it made it go away.

[Radical_Edward]

As I said before...

Originally Posted by Radical_Edward

I'm sorry, but not having an AV program of any sorts is like having is sex with a hooker in vegas without a condom.

The internet is a large and evil place, and using no AV of any sorts these days is just plain ignorant and reckless.

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by Radical_Edward

As I said before...



The internet is a large and evil place, and using no AV of any sorts these days is just plain ignorant and reckless.

Well put...

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by OneMoar

I feel bad for you its gotta be tough not being as awesome as me
also anyone that "blames java" for there "virus" problems is
... ignorant
most java exploits are patched out fairly quick and back in the day the vast majority of java-born viruses where due to people allowing the applets to execute and and heaven forbid the countless holes in IE6/7/ff before sand-boxing was common in the browser-wars

I don't get viruses ever sorry I know its hard to believe you like to think you know what you are doing and are :gud with cumputers: you aren't Av software is for Users that blindly click though porn sites and download everything that offers access to free porn
or run outdated versions of windows xp with IE6. ..... or though there own folly execute something with infected with malware by your own admission the only "bad" virus you ever got what though your own doing ... and by the sound of if it AV would not have protected you

You really don't understand how things work do you.

[erocker]

Based off many comments my computer must have some form of internet AIDS. Thankfully my computer seems to have the conviction of Magic Johnson.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by erocker

Based off many comments my computer must have some form of internet AIDS. Thankfully my computer seems to have the conviction of Magic Johnson.

lol That reminds me of that south park episode.

[erocker]

Granted if I actually had important documents/programs/whatever on this computer I would use an A/V.

[_JP_]

Obviously, if I only used my computer for games, I wouldn't need an A/V. And the default windows firewall would do the job just fine.

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by _JP_

Obviously, if I only used my computer for games, I wouldn't need an A/V. And the default windows firewall would do the job just fine.

Thats what I thought lol.