Confused with 6950 toxic to 6970.

commiewithagun · Aug 25, 2012, 10:16 PM

I bought a Sapphire 6950 Toxic about 1 year ago, and just recently decided to unlock to a 6970. I tried to flip the bios switch on the card, and something odd happened. My shaders stayed the same, but the texture fillrate went up. (From 77 something to 83.6) The card performs noticebly better with the higher fillrate of course, but I don't understand why the shader values don't change.

This is weird, because I thought unlocking would increase the shaders, and they didnt go anywhere. I then flipped the switch into the #1 position and attempted a flash. Nothing changed when I did other than the vendor name changing from Sapphire to ATI. Any ideas?

FreedomEclipse · Aug 25, 2012, 10:36 PM

the 6970 has faster memory clocks then the 6950 toxic.

commiewithagun · Aug 25, 2012, 10:38 PM

Okay, well, am I out of luck then? Flashing was not a success nor was my bios switch flip (Beyond fill-rate upgrade)

FreedomEclipse · Aug 25, 2012, 10:45 PM

flashing only really works on reference cards. youre lucky if you get a non ref card to flash successfully.

manofthem · Aug 25, 2012, 10:57 PM

Take a look here.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/...o_card_review/

Quote:

The top of the card has a BIOS switch, which all Radeon HD 6950 and Radeon HD 6970 video cards have. What separates this video card from the rest, however, is that Sapphire has used this dual-BIOS nature of the video card to improve your gameplay experience through an increase in performance. The primary BIOS is a standard HD 6950 with 1408 shaders and with the voltage at 1.175V up from 1.1V, and overclocked. The secondary BIOS sets the video card into "Radeon HD 6970 mode" enabling extra shaders, up to 1536, that many enthusiasts BIOS mod their 6950's to try to get to.

commiewithagun · Aug 25, 2012, 10:59 PM

I guess that's my problem- regardless of switch position I only get 1408.

erocker · Aug 25, 2012, 11:20 PM

What version of GPU-Z are you using?

commiewithagun · Aug 25, 2012, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

what version of gpu-z are you using?

0.6.4

Aug 25, 2012, 10:36 PM	#2
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Aug 25, 2012, 10:16 PM	#1
commiewithagun Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Confused with 6950 toxic to 6970. I bought a Sapphire 6950 Toxic about 1 year ago, and just recently decided to unlock to a 6970. I tried to flip the bios switch on the card, and something odd happened. My shaders stayed the same, but the texture fillrate went up. (From 77 something to 83.6) The card performs noticebly better with the higher fillrate of course, but I don't understand why the shader values don't change. This is weird, because I thought unlocking would increase the shaders, and they didnt go anywhere. I then flipped the switch into the #1 position and attempted a flash. Nothing changed when I did other than the vendor name changing from Sapphire to ATI. Any ideas?

Aug 25, 2012, 10:38 PM	#3
commiewithagun Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Okay, well, am I out of luck then? Flashing was not a success nor was my bios switch flip (Beyond fill-rate upgrade)

Aug 25, 2012, 10:59 PM	#6
commiewithagun Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I guess that's my problem- regardless of switch position I only get 1408.

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