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Taiwan engineers defeat limits of flash memory
We heard of HAMR and salty HDDs and now it's getting even better, this time for NAND. Flash memory can get its life prolonged
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And guess what ... life-giving workaround is ... heat Quote:
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so.. a normal SSD chip dies after 10000 cycles?
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@de.das.dude: A chip is a collection of flash cells. Cells are organized into pages, typically ~1000 cells per page. Pages are then organized into blocks, 32, 64, 128 pages per block exist. Chips can have from one to eight blocks.
But to answer your question, a mediocre SSD will endure about 10GB of random writes each day for 3 years before starting to wear out. Even then, as writes become impossible, reads will still be possible for some time, meaning you can copy your data before the drive fails completely. @Drone: I don't see how flash-heating the flash (heh) will help with anything, long-term... All heat does is randomize the electron distribution between the substrate and the floating gate. Flash cells degrade because electrons that are tunneled into the floating gate from the substrate can leave the floating gate at random (on average, that's literally a one-in-a-billion chance when accessing a cell). Also the substrate "evaporates" slowly, as the electrons rushing through the depletion region can sometimes push out substrate atoms, thus damaging/degrading it. All other degradation occurs as a direct consequence of the way NAND flash is organized and engineered. Until I see where exactly the heat is applied, how, and why it should help with anything, all this is simply baseless sensationalism. |
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They'll propose and demonstrate their "high-temperature" flash at presentation.
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Meaning they're still working on it. And until they provide a very detailed explanation as to why heat even works as a solution (or even a workaround), and until there is a working prototype, I call shenanigans.
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