Ati 5850 problems - Page 2

IamEzio · Nov 2, 2012, 04:17 PM

Here is a review from TPU of the HIS HD5850

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_5850/3.html

The PCB looks the exactly the same

HD5870

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...HD_5870/3.html

HD4890

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/S...HD_4890/3.html

and HD4870

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/D...HD_4870/3.html

eidairaman1 · Nov 2, 2012, 04:20 PM

http://www.hwupgrade.it/forum/showth...2963&page=1318

EvoMaster85 · Nov 2, 2012, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

http://www.hwupgrade.it/forum/showth...2963&page=1318

According to that page, the pcb is from a oem 5870, maybe thats why the bios say cypress Xt and not pro. now im confused, what card do i have?

brandonwh64 · Nov 2, 2012, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvoMaster85

According to that page, the pcb is from a oem 5870, maybe thats why the bios say cypress Xt and not pro. now im confused, what card do i have?

This is quite odd. Maybe just try to blind flash it to a 5850 reference model.

EvoMaster85 · Nov 2, 2012, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamEzio

Here is a review from TPU of the HIS HD5850

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_5850/3.html

The PCB looks the exactly the same

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/H...ages/front.jpg

HD5870

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...HD_5870/3.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ages/front.jpg

HD4890

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/S...HD_4890/3.html

and HD4870

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/D...HD_4870/3.html

The pcb is exactly the same as the 5850, all transitors are the same.

TC-man · Nov 2, 2012, 04:35 PM

I think IamEzio is right, the HIS AMD reference model of HD 5850 looks the same as EvoMaster850's HD 5850 OEM. I guess someone tried to change the card's ID or something like that and put a HD 4890 VGA cooler on it (look, just one row of video memory is cooled via the VGA cooler). Perhaps what EvoMaster85 can try is flashing the card with an AMD HD 5850 reference bios. Or of course return the card and get the money back if you can.

brandonwh64 · Nov 2, 2012, 04:36 PM

I would start here and flash one at a time to see which one works the best

http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/i...E&memSize=1024

EvoMaster85 · Nov 2, 2012, 04:38 PM

Im going to flash it, cause send it back to get the money back is more expensive that getting a new one, wish me luck then.

IamEzio · Nov 2, 2012, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TC-man

I think IamEzio is right, the HIS AMD reference model of HD 5850 looks the same as EvoMaster850's HD 5850 OEM. I guess someone tried to change the card's ID or something like that and put a HD 4890 VGA cooler on it (look, just one row of video memory is cooled via the VGA cooler). Perhaps what EvoMaster85 can try is flashing the card with an AMD HD 5850 reference bios. Or of course return the card and get the money back if you can.

The HD4890 cooler has a another thermal pad for the memory as you can see here , so it should cover the other four memory chips as well

TC-man · Nov 2, 2012, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamEzio

The HD4890 cooler has a another thermal pad for the memory as you can see here , so it should cover the other four memory chips as well

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/S...es/cooler1.jpg

Oh, I see now you post a clearer photo of the card I see the second row memory should also be cooled via the VGA cooler. And after rechecking I see the original photo that EvoMaster85 has uploaded here didn't include the whole VGA cooler, it's a little cut off. Thanks for the clarification! It seems that the HD4890 VGA cooler is backwards compatible with HD 5850

.

Anyway, how about comparing the current bios' from the mentioned HD 5850 'OEM' specs like voltages, power-states, clock/mem speeds etc. with an AMD HD 5850 reference model's bios? How different is that from the HD 6850 (as seen via GPU-Z earlier in this thread)? If everything is the same as the reference HD5850 then only the card's ID has been changed, right?

EvoMaster85 · Nov 2, 2012, 05:18 PM

Ok, i flash and gpuz shows it as a 5850:

But still hdmi dont work, any ideas of how to make it work or should i just stay there cause is working fine?

TC-man · Nov 2, 2012, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvoMaster85

Ok, i flash and gpuz shows it as a 5850:

http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/12/11/02/46h.png

But still hdmi dont work, any ideas of how to make it work or should i just stay there cause is working fine?

Perhaps the HDMI port is defective? Otherwise try with a DVI-to-HDMI adapter and see if you can get it to work now.

EDIT

I am told that you may need to use the HDMI port on the TV that's for 'PC mode' (most LCD TVs which have multi HDMI ports do separate into 'PC mode' HDMI and 'regular' HDMI ports), so if you have 2 HDMI port try to use the other port and see if it works.

EvoMaster85 · Nov 2, 2012, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TC-man

Perhaps the HDMI port is defective? Otherwise try with a DVI-to-HDMI adapter and see if you can get it to work now.

Ill try that, just need to get an adapter cause i dont have it.

About the pc mode, i dont think my tv has that, also i use the same to connect my tv to the integrated hdmi video card on the board, and it work great

IamEzio · Nov 2, 2012, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TC-man

Perhaps the HDMI port is defective? Otherwise try with a DVI-to-HDMI adapter and see if you can get it to work now.

EDIT

I am told that you may need to use the HDMI port on the TV that's for 'PC mode' (most LCD TVs which have multi HDMI ports do separate into 'PC mode' HDMI and 'regular' HDMI ports), so if you have 2 HDMI port try to use the other port and see if it works.

HDMI is a standard , it doesn't metter if you connect a PC or a Blu ray player , it should work without a problem , PC mode enable just improved performance with a PC ..

scope54 · Nov 3, 2012, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

ugh this definitely blows, but ya it appears you have a 4870/4890 there

0930 means that GPU was produced in 2009 Week 30

I just realized something next to where it says AMD on the PCB tell us what that number is

no he does not have a 4870/4890 and i dont think the 0930 is when it was produced.
the back of his card looks identical to my 5850 except the label placement and the extra fan input, plus other various switches that are filled in. The most important part is that the GPU part is identical to mine.

With the 0930, I looked at the hi res pic that TPU has for the 5870 launch and it has 1125 ENG on it, which would mean 25th week of 2011.

EvoMaster85 · Nov 4, 2012, 01:04 PM

Just want to say thanks to everyone, the card is working great whit the bios of the 5850, hdmi is not working but an adapter dvi/hdmi is working great.

Just thanks.

eidairaman1 · Nov 5, 2012, 04:31 AM

just odd how a 4870/90 cooler was on that card

brandonwh64 · Nov 5, 2012, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvoMaster85

Just want to say thanks to everyone, the card is working great whit the bios of the 5850, hdmi is not working but an adapter dvi/hdmi is working great.

Just thanks.

We are glad you got it working! I loved my 5850, that card would hit 1Ghz no sweat!

Frogger · Nov 5, 2012, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvoMaster85

But still hdmi dont work, any ideas of how to make it work

with the right bios on the card if you do a clean driver install the hdmi should work

EvoMaster85 · Nov 5, 2012, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogger

with the right bios on the card if you do a clean driver install the hdmi should work

Got it working fine whit an dvi-dhmi adapter, thats good enought for me

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