NVIDIA Delivers Massive Performance Boost to Linux Gaming - Page 2

devguy · Nov 6, 2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

You see!!! WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN!

Haha, some of us like the quickest way possible of doing certain tasks in Linux, which means entering them in a terminal window. All those things he did can be accomplished using a full, easy-to-use gui in the Ubuntu Software Center.

Granted, for now you'd have to know the name of the repository he listed, but once Canonical puts the new nVidia binary driver in their repositories, all you'll need to do is just click on the thing that says "install drivers", select everything it suggests, and click install. In Windows, it's actually more complicated, as you have to go to the manufacturer's website, navigate through to download the proper drivers (assuming you know your card's model number), find the executable, and go through an install setup.

phanbuey · Nov 6, 2012, 07:19 PM

ohh man...

If you made a 'gaming distro' just for gaming, and sold it as a package with the hardware (like a steam box or something) it would run just fine. The same concept as chromebooks.

Linux is great for super-noobs (your grandmother), appliances, and programmers... anything in between (i.e. power users, normal techy people) are gonna hate it. I cant tell you how many hours i spent trying to get my printer/scanner to work properly in linux.

Solaris17 · Nov 6, 2012, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

You see!!! WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN!

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Its quite confusing to me too but I think if someone used linux there whole lives and tried to use CMD prompt (MSDOS even though its almost completely butchered now) it would be just as confusing.

sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings

super user do (su is UHC for linux) aptitude (think of this as google for programs) get (get the program in the following line) install (install the program in the following line) nvidia stuff.

super user-su

open-do

apt- aptitude

- (search)

get- find and download

install-install downloaded file

nvidia drivers

su watered down edition but everything has a structure once you know the structure its easy.

devguy · Nov 6, 2012, 07:40 PM

Also, AMD is working on a major test version of their FGLRX (FireGL and Radeon X Driver) specifically for Source games. See here.

MicroUnC · Nov 6, 2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fourstaff

Quite a few of my friends uses Ubuntu, they seem pretty "usable" to me. You certainly don't need a computer science degree to use it (one of them studied Biomedical Science).

No need in a degree, just a little effort!

MicroUnC · Nov 6, 2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Solaris17

sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings

super user do (su is UHC for linux) aptitude (think of this as google for programs) get (get the program in the following line) install (install the program in the following line) nvidia stuff.

super user-su

open-do

apt- aptitude

- (search)

get- find and download

install-install downloaded file

nvidia drivers

su watered down edition but everything has a structure once you know the structure its easy.

+1

Superuser sounds cool

brandonwh64 · Nov 6, 2012, 07:50 PM

Pretty much like a rooted android? right?

TheMailMan78 · Nov 6, 2012, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devguy

Haha, some of us like the quickest way possible of doing certain tasks in Linux, which means entering them in a terminal window. All those things he did can be accomplished using a full, easy-to-use gui in the Ubuntu Software Center.

Granted, for now you'd have to know the name of the repository he listed, but once Canonical puts the new nVidia binary driver in their repositories, all you'll need to do is just click on the thing that says "install drivers", select everything it suggests, and click install. In Windows, it's actually more complicated, as you have to go to the manufacturer's website, navigate through to download the proper drivers (assuming you know your card's model number), find the executable, and go through an install setup.

Whats a repository?

MicroUnC · Nov 6, 2012, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Whats a repository?

A software repository is a storage location from which software packages may be retrieved and installed on a computer.

TheMailMan78 · Nov 6, 2012, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicroUnC

A software repository is a storage location from which software packages may be retrieved and installed on a computer.

Like the internet?

MicroUnC · Nov 6, 2012, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Like the internet?

From the internet, yes.

hellrazor · Nov 6, 2012, 08:09 PM

SWEET!Blah blah ALLCAPS

Pehla · Nov 6, 2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I tried Linux a month or so ago (Mint) and they have a LONG way to go before its ready for the masses. Took me a day to figure out how to confirm the firewall was on.

Granted I did have a lot of fun learning something new but, its not for noobs like me and definitely not for the masses.........yet.

come on!! if u put someone who never saw pc before to windows do u think he will just fly on it?? why u have so many pc clases teaching u how to use windows??
i think linux deserve more...,and latest distributions are much more stabile then before!!
u have thons of forums with nice techie ppl to help u out with problems u have if u have it..
i think steam have made huge job here..,now nvidia folow!! belive me ..only thing keeping me on windows is gaming!!long live steam and nvidia!!! amd heat up the chairs!!

hellrazor · Nov 6, 2012, 08:33 PM

A few weeks ago Windows 7 cannibalized itself and I thought "Damn, I don't have enough space for another Windows installation, Linux it is", now it seems like it happened just in time.

MicroUnC · Nov 6, 2012, 08:47 PM

It's not mine! didn't get an invite yet

TheMailMan78 · Nov 6, 2012, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pehla

come on!! if u put someone who never saw pc before to windows do u think he will just fly on it?? why u have so many pc clases teaching u how to use windows??
i think linux deserve more...,and latest distributions are much more stabile then before!!
u have thons of forums with nice techie ppl to help u out with problems u have if u have it..
i think steam have made huge job here..,now nvidia folow!! belive me ..only thing keeping me on windows is gaming!!long live steam and nvidia!!! amd heat up the chairs!!

I've seen them do it on an Apple.

WhiteLotus · Nov 6, 2012, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Whats a repository?

Think it of a library or an "appstore" but it's free. You go find what you want and install it. You can either use the terminal window to do this (if you know what you are doing) or use the list available in the fancy GUI to select what you want and install it.
Kinda like, "look at all this stuff that we have, what do you want to have on your computer?" rather than "your computer comes with this that and the other"

SIGSEGV · Nov 6, 2012, 09:05 PM

i'm so excited about this, nvidia has begun to deliver major improvement over their driver in linux environment, thanks to valve

come on AMD

TheHunter · Nov 6, 2012, 09:17 PM

Well linux runs on openGL and that is superior to to current Dx11, especially v4.3 with bindless extensions (resources), meaning it can do ~ 25000-26000 drawback calls (draw primitives). Its as close to "bind to the metal" as possible.
Also this new feature means less communication between system ram/cpu and gpu. Less memory swapping, faster rendering.. And OpenGL is still fancier then directx in general, it knows where one texture/object is instead of checking if its A or B like directx (consuming precious bandwidth & time).

For example DX11 can do max max 14000-16000, directx9 stops ~ 9000-11000 before it becomes a serious bottleneck and takes more then 16ms.

Or console can 30000-40000 calls (draw primitives), even 100K is possible if optimized to the max.

But the only thing that sucks with openGL is its hard to code.

As for R310 branch in windows, well it sucks compared to old R304-306. Instead of speeding things up (dropping dx9 gpu support) its for the worse, especially in Battlefield3.

Aquinus · Nov 6, 2012, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

You see!!! WTF DOES THAT EVEN MEAN!

What do you think Google is for?

Ikaruga · Nov 6, 2012, 09:55 PM

I did some tests with the 310.14 beta last month. and it was a lot faster indeed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicroUnC

It's not mine! didn't get an invite yet

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...TX/steam-1.jpg

I would also love to try that out

Hayder_Master · Nov 7, 2012, 01:02 AM

nice, when someone say f**k nvidia they give him bounce

james888 · Nov 7, 2012, 04:40 AM

I actually did have my grandmother using linux. She had no problems once I showed her where her browser was. This is a woman who thinks google is the internet.

stupido · Nov 7, 2012, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Pretty much like a rooted android? right?

right... but did you know?
... that android is simply linux + (Dalvik) JVM? all android apps are actually applications developed in java language, running in dalvik virtual machine...

HumanSmoke · Nov 7, 2012, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

i'm so excited about this, nvidia has begun to deliver major improvement over their driver in linux environment, thanks to valve

come on AMD

This would be the same AMD that just sacked its OSRC employees?

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