Saphhire hd7850 bottleneck

Zero wolf · Nov 29, 2012, 01:20 PM

Hi everyone!

I'd like to upgrade my GPU from hd4870 512mb to hd7850 2gb but i'm concerned about possible bottleneck from my other components.

Here are my specs: Asus p5e3 deluxe
Q9300 @ 2.5Ghz
3 Gb memory (corsair dominator 1600Mhz)
LcPower 550w silent giant series
Ati Saphhire hd4870 512mb

I play only on 1680x1050 AA isn't important to my so...
I won't be playing games such as Crysis 2 or BF3, i usualy play shogun 2, f1 2012, AC3.

So will the CPU or any other component bottleneck hd7850 and for how much?

Thanks in advance

brandonwh64 · Nov 29, 2012, 01:26 PM

For BF3 you are going to bottle neck on the RAM part of your build. 3GB is not good to play on with BF3. When I built my 2600K I had to use 3GB of random sticks while I waited on my 8GB kit and it was pretty much unplayable.

3870x2 · Nov 29, 2012, 01:33 PM

Not a bottleneck, just scaling. You will do fine, but if you can get your processor up to 3.0+, you would be doing great.

I play BF3 on my 945 with a 7950, max settings. The 945 isn't as powerful clock-for-clock.

At that resolution I see you having no problem maxing out everything out there, however getting 60FPS will not always happen.

There is a 6950 for $165 in the FS section if you are interested, if not then you are looking at $220 for a 2GB, $180 for a 1GB (not recommended, especially for rockstar games)

Zero wolf · Nov 29, 2012, 01:46 PM

Thanks so far guys

Yeah i build this CPU back in 2008 for very decent price. Back than 3gb of dd3 was more than enough so i might have to do some upgrade in near future on memory as well.

As for CPU ac already "OC" it on 2.9 but it was unstable probably due to lack of power or something so i underclock it back to 2.5. When over 2.7GHz becomes very unstable so... will do some research on OC

PLSG08 · Nov 29, 2012, 02:39 PM

Everything looks fine, just the memory. Get at least an 8GB kit and you're set to go

3870x2 · Nov 29, 2012, 02:49 PM

Just noticed, 3GB. How did you get half a kit? Unless you are still on a 32-bit OS.

Zero wolf · Nov 29, 2012, 03:23 PM

I'm on windows 7 32-bit. Yes it was 3gb set (3x1gb stick).

Zero wolf · Nov 29, 2012, 03:24 PM

Do you think that gonna souse troubles?

PLSG08 · Dec 1, 2012, 03:24 AM

Well it's not gonna cause some major troubles, but for stability you could opt for bigger memory

trickson · Dec 1, 2012, 05:37 AM

You need a min. of 8gb of ram for BF3.

boise49ers · Dec 1, 2012, 05:42 AM

He'll need a 64 bit OS also.

drdeathx · Dec 1, 2012, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trickson

You need a min. of 8gb of ram for BF3.

What are you smoking?

drdeathx · Dec 1, 2012, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boise49ers

He'll need a 64 bit OS also.

Negative on that too.

MxPhenom 216 · Dec 1, 2012, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

Negative on that too.

How so, what is the point of getting 8GB of ram, and having a 32 bit OS that can only use 3.5GB of it?

drdeathx · Dec 1, 2012, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

How so, what is the point of getting 8GB of ram, and having a 32 bit OS that can only use 3.5GB of it?

Never said that. These guys need to clarify better.

MxPhenom 216 · Dec 1, 2012, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

Never said that

Everyone was talking about memory, and Boise came in saying he will need a 64 bit OS also after a memory upgrade was discussed. Which he will if he does get more memory.

drdeathx · Dec 1, 2012, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

Everyone was talking about memory, and Boise came in saying he will need a 64 bit OS also after a memory upgrade was discussed. Which he will if he does get more memory.

He does not need 8G to run BF3

trickson · Dec 1, 2012, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

What are you smoking?

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

Negative on that too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

He does not need 8G to run BF3

You will need a min. of 8gb's of RAM and yes I forgot a 64bit OS to play BF3 with best quality and with out stuttering or glitch's.

I have been down this road before and once I got the ram up to 8gb's all was fine (I had the 64bit OS already).

MxPhenom 216 · Dec 1, 2012, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdeathx

He does not need 8G to run BF3

He sure as hell needs more then 3. And if he gets more then 3GB of ram, he will also need a 64 bit OS to make all that memory usable. And 8GB of ram is preferable for BF3. I have 8GB of ram and when I play BF3 my memory usage for overall system goes up to 5-6GB.

trickson · Dec 1, 2012, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

He sure as hell needs more then 3. And if he gets more then 3GB of ram, he will also need a 64 bit OS to make all that memory usable. And 8GB of ram is preferable for BF3. I have 8GB of ram and when I play BF3 my memory usage for overall system goes up to 5-6GB.

With 4gb's of RAM on my system It had memory usage up to 85%-90%!!! Just about killed my system!

erocker · Dec 1, 2012, 06:03 AM

Instead of insulting other people, perhaps you could post some facts on the topic at hand as a rebuttal. Any more of this type of unnecessary behavior will result in losing posting privileges.

trickson · Dec 1, 2012, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Instead of insulting other people, perhaps you could post some facts on the topic at hand as a rebuttal. Any more of this type of unnecessary behavior will result in losing posting privileges.

I have. He rebutted with what are you smoking and no you do not need what I said. And after all erocker I think it was you yourself that told me that I needed 8gb's of ram because I was having the same issue.

erocker · Dec 1, 2012, 06:07 AM

The facts are in the hundreds upon hundreds of internet threads on the subject of BF3 and RAM. For reference: Google search: "BF3 + RAM"

trickson · Dec 1, 2012, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

The facts are in the hundreds upon hundreds of internet threads on the subject of BF3 and RAM: Google search: "BF3 + RAM"

Yes but the OP came here for our help not Google's. So I have given my help. What has happened to TPU? I mean this is just getting worse and worse! All we tend to do now is tell people to Google it. If this is the case then TPU should just close!
This place was great once we all help each other we had fun and now it is just getting pathetic. No wonder so many have left and not come back. Before you ban me erocker know this you used to be the one I looked forward to hearing from. I really respected your help and what you had to say. You were very informative and hell I even took every thing you ever told me and put it into use. What has happened to you? GOOGLE? I am going to take your post privileges away? All these threats and all the hate. DUDE I do not see any fun any more. DO you need a break?
Sorry for my rant but I really needed to get that out and not in a PM others needed to hear this!

I want my friend erocker back.

MxPhenom 216 · Dec 1, 2012, 06:23 AM

wow, this escalated quickly. OP just upgrade to a 64 bit OS, get more memory, and get the GPU you want. After that you should be good to go.

Nov 29, 2012, 01:20 PM	#1
Zero wolf Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 7 (0.04/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Saphhire hd7850 bottleneck Hi everyone! I'd like to upgrade my GPU from hd4870 512mb to hd7850 2gb but i'm concerned about possible bottleneck from my other components. Here are my specs: Asus p5e3 deluxe Q9300 @ 2.5Ghz 3 Gb memory (corsair dominator 1600Mhz) LcPower 550w silent giant series Ati Saphhire hd4870 512mb I play only on 1680x1050 AA isn't important to my so... I won't be playing games such as Crysis 2 or BF3, i usualy play shogun 2, f1 2012, AC3. So will the CPU or any other component bottleneck hd7850 and for how much? Thanks in advance

Nov 29, 2012, 01:26 PM	#2
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Nov 29, 2012, 01:33 PM	#3
3870x2 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Joplin, Mo Posts: 4,540 (2.38/day) Thanks: 175 Thanked 691 Times in 557 Posts System Specs	Not a bottleneck, just scaling. You will do fine, but if you can get your processor up to 3.0+, you would be doing great. I play BF3 on my 945 with a 7950, max settings. The 945 isn't as powerful clock-for-clock. At that resolution I see you having no problem maxing out everything out there, however getting 60FPS will not always happen. There is a 6950 for $165 in the FS section if you are interested, if not then you are looking at $220 for a 2GB, $180 for a 1GB (not recommended, especially for rockstar games) __________________ A+, N+, S+, MCSE. Heatware STEAM ID Name: furi0nst0rmrage (0s are zeros) M O D E R N\|\|W A R F A R E \|\| 2 \|\| CLUBHOUSE // TEAM “The amount exaltation of the processor cores can brings amazing floating” -sparkle

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Nov 29, 2012, 01:46 PM	#4
Zero wolf Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 7 (0.04/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks so far guys Yeah i build this CPU back in 2008 for very decent price. Back than 3gb of dd3 was more than enough so i might have to do some upgrade in near future on memory as well. As for CPU ac already "OC" it on 2.9 but it was unstable probably due to lack of power or something so i underclock it back to 2.5. When over 2.7GHz becomes very unstable so... will do some research on OC

Nov 29, 2012, 02:39 PM	#5
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Nov 29, 2012, 02:49 PM	#6
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Nov 29, 2012, 03:23 PM	#7
Zero wolf Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 7 (0.04/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm on windows 7 32-bit. Yes it was 3gb set (3x1gb stick).

Nov 29, 2012, 03:24 PM	#8
Zero wolf Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 7 (0.04/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Do you think that gonna souse troubles?

Dec 1, 2012, 03:24 AM	#9
PLSG08 Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 115 (0.54/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts System Specs	Well it's not gonna cause some major troubles, but for stability you could opt for bigger memory

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erocker Senior Moderator Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI. Posts: 31,890 (12.77/day) Thanks: 2,780 Thanked 12,262 Times in 7,809 Posts System Specs	The facts are in the hundreds upon hundreds of internet threads on the subject of BF3 and RAM. For reference: Google search: "BF3 + RAM" Last edited by erocker; Dec 1, 2012 at 07:33 AM.

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