Anti-virus advice for 2013

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by Jetster

So the best one Kasperski is not even mentioned?

This is the only time you will hear from it. It catches what you need it to.


http://img.techpowerup.org/121215/Capture030358.jpg


Who made this list. NOD32: ESET Antivirus is not on there ether

^ this kind of thing is exactly why i love kaspersky. works the same for network shares, worm attacks, email attachments, the lot.

[acerace]

Originally Posted by Kreij

What exactly have you found that MSE has failed at detecting in the years you've dealt with it?
Web viruses? Email? Downloads?

Just curious as I'm always interested in people experiences with software.

Well, my problem with MSE is it'll slow down the whole computer to a crawl when I'm opening a folder that contains many .exe file. I'm a guy who always keep my software in a place for future use, like drivers when reinstalling OS. I believe there are some users in this forum experienced the same problem too. I change to Avast, and never experience the problem again. Weird.

Also, it's too slow when removing malware.

[lZKoce]

Originally Posted by Jetster

So the best one Kasperski is not even mentioned?

This is the only time you will hear from it. It catches what you need it to.

Who made this list. NOD32: ESET Antivirus is not on there ether

The Poll is for FREE AV's, and Kaspresky and ESET don't offer such options, except for trial versions. If it was "The best Anti-virus 2013" - then they surely will be listed.

[Jetster]

Originally Posted by lZKoce

The Poll is for FREE AV's, and Kaspresky and ESET don't offer such options, except for trial versions. If it was "The best Anti-virus 2013" - then they surely will be listed.

Ok, got it. In that case the free ones are worth every penny

[lyndonguitar]

I picked AVG Free, not because I like it or prefer it, but its one of the first antivirus I've used and I don't feel the need to try out other AVs and used them, No problems with AVG whatsoever

I never catch a virus anyway, I'm always careful of what I visit, download or copy in my PCs. and no hackers gonna try and hack me, cause i'm just a small fish in the sea.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by lyndonguitar

I picked AVG Free, not because I like it or prefer it, but its one of the first antivirus I've used and I don't feel the need to try out other AVs and used them, No problems with AVG whatsoever

I never catch a virus anyway, I'm always careful of what I visit, download or copy in my PCs. and no hackers gonna try and hack me, cause i'm just a small fish in the sea.

i've had three machines hit by network worms just from having a port forwarded. playing safe doesnt cut it these days.

[Drone]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

think of it, whos going to hack the least popular OS/Kernel Out, and who will hack the most used OS/Kernel or attempt to? Linux does have big holes- being smug about it like mac users are just sets people up for failure.

Think of what? Linux in nature is safer. It has different architecture. And how is it least popular? Most of the servers run on Linux and hackers usually want to hack servers not random home computers. Will you say now that servers are bad targets? It's the biggest eyeroller.

[Naito]

I use Kaspersky IS 2012 on my desktop rig. Laptop and Ultrabook both use MSE, but I have bought a copy of Malwarebytes (even though I find MSE fast and effective).

OP might consider running Malwarebytes along side MSE; this should give better proctection.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by Naito

I use Kaspersky IS 2012 on my desktop rig. Laptop and Ultrabook both use MSE, but I have bought a copy of Malwarebytes (even though I find MSE fast and effective).

OP might consider running Malwarebytes along side MSE; this should give better proctection.

why havent you updated to KIS 2013?

[Naito]

Originally Posted by Mussels

why havent you updated to KIS 2013?

Just been lazy, I guess. Did think about it, though.

[RejZoR]

I'm waiting for more details about avast! 8.0 coming at the end of February 2013. We'll see then...

[repman244]

Originally Posted by Drone

Think of what? Linux in nature is safer. It has different architecture. And how is it least popular? Most of the servers run on Linux and hackers usually want to hack servers not random home computers. Will you say now that servers are bad targets? It's the biggest eyeroller.

I don't think servers are open directly to the internet...usually they are behind a firewall or something.
And hackers usually go after clueless people that will click on everything and give their personal info (that's why facebook is the worlds biggest target).

Same was said about OS X until it got it's fair share of trouble (due to increasing popularity).

[Drone]

Originally Posted by repman244

I don't think servers are open directly to the internet...usually they are behind a firewall or something.
And hackers usually go after clueless people that will click on everything and give their personal info (that's why facebook is the worlds biggest target).

Same was said about OS X until it got it's fair share of trouble (due to increasing popularity).

Even Sony servers got hacked. If something is a target it will get hacked sooner or later. Firewalls ain't no perfect.

As for clueless people getting owned .. most of the time it's malware, scareware, ransomware etc. (btw all this stuff differs from viruses, it's basically different things not all viruses are malware and not all malware is virus) etc. or they're just stupid and give their details.

Stupid people can get owned even in Linux or OS X, however it's not always got to do with security but sanity.

p.s.

some nice read:

http://lifehacker.com/5560443/whats-...-other-malware

http://techtips.salon.com/difference...ware-1224.html

[repman244]

Originally Posted by Drone

Even Sony servers got hacked. If something is a target it will get hacked sooner or later. Firewalls ain't no perfect.

As for clueless people getting owned .. most of the time it's malware, scareware, ransomware etc. (btw all this stuff differs from viruses, it's basically different things not all viruses are malware and not all malware is virus) etc. or they're just stupid and give their details.

Stupid people can get owned even in Linux or OS X, however it's not always got to do with security but sanity.

That means that linux servers aren't safer either...it can and will get hacked either way. It's just the complexity of the system and the layers to get access to them is what's keeping them "safe".

It's quite hard to define what and who is the main target, but if I had to make a choice I would say PC users.

[qubit]

Originally Posted by Frick

Indeed so. If Linux was more popular there would be more to gain from exploiting it. The same goes for most software (unless it's targeted at specific stuff, like SCADA or suchlieks).

Indeed so. The Mac OS has always been targeted by malware since it came out in 1984 but has somehow managed to maintain this myth of absolute security. The latest versions are based on Unix which perpetuates this myth even more.

However, now that Macs are becoming more popular, they're getting targeted more and more by malware, which does successfully infect it.

[WhiteLotus]

Surfing habits > all anti virus.

[Liquid Cool]

Should have had an option for - none. In 20+ years...I've never used Antivirus software, haven't had a need for it.

Best,

LC

[Drone]

Originally Posted by repman244

That means that linux servers aren't safer either...it can and will get hacked either way. It's just the complexity of the system and the layers to get access to them is what's keeping them "safe".

It's quite hard to define what and who is the main target, but if I had to make a choice I would say PC users.

Yes, you are absolutely correct.

However it will change and very very soon. With all those tablets, smart phones and stuff selling like hotcakes, hackers will turn away from pc to mobile world.

[repman244]

Originally Posted by Drone

Yes, you are absolutely correct.

However it will change and very very soon. With all those tablets, smart phones and stuff selling like hotcakes, hackers will turn away from pc to mobile world.

Indeed, android has a fair share of it already...and it will only continue to increase.
IMO mobile platforms can be even more dangerous. Some people provide so much of their information in there, that it's ridiculous.

[Melvis]

Originally Posted by Guitarrassdeamor

Basically I am what? I work on other people's computers for a living, although sporadically, I'm in IT. I also used to work on them daily at my older job, and have worked on plenty personally, so I think I have SOME experience. What makes no sense? You said it yourself, the point of AV is to help minimiZe the risk of getting viruses - which MSE does, and does a great job of it. No - most people don't do exactly what I just said - it was an exaggeration. It is there to help everyone, not just the stupid. Sure, I could not run any AV and be fine - but why would I when I can run something unobtrusive and low maintenance that works like MSE? People stick with what the idiots at Best Buy tell them to use or their "tech guy" who tells them to use AVG Free because it is the best one out. I know from my experience as well, guess what, out of a forum of tech people, you're not the only one who has experience fixing and repairing computers. Mind blowing stuff, huh. Why would you post a thread that proves me even more correct about MSE...?

Good im glad to see you have some experience in this field, so you of all people should know better? Seriously? you don't see it? Your whole comment made no sense at all, think about it. Of course i said it myself, did you? NO! Of course its there to minimiSe the risk that's the whole point, BUT wouldn't you like to know what one is doing a better job at preventing that risk? MSE will prevent some risk, but it wont have as good as % as others as i have already explained! Yes of course its there to help everyone, but mainly the people that click click click, you and me know better then to do this, god im writing this out on a computer that has no AV just a firewall. Why? because i know not to click on every dam thing that pops up etc, HENCE why i recommend other AV's not MSE as for the more basic user doesn't do what we do and that then in turns increases the risk of getting a virus and ive had countless come in with Viruses that MSE just has not stopped or picked up. Its all about the better % then just been easy or whatever it is that makes a good AV over another, plain and simple. I like a AV that STOP VIRUSES then one that doesn't, wouldn't you? How in god's green earth do you think i proved you even more correct? dude!! i don't what your smoking but its good If anything i just proved how wrong you are, and backed it up with proof!! Seriously READ before posting stuff like that^ your only making your self look like a fool

Also if you want the whole story about why i dont recommend MSE ask Kreij i sent him everything about it.

[RejZoR]

MSE is sluggish and its protection is far from stellar. If i had to chose, i'd take AVG 2013 Free anytime over it.

There are few quite nice alternatives lately.

- Ad-aware Free with Antivirus (Powered by Ad-aware+VIPRE)
- Roboscan Internet Security (Powered by BitDefender+ESTsoft Engine)
- Kingsoft Antivirus 2012 and upcomin 2013 which will be Kingsoft+AVIRA engine
- ZoneAlarm Internet Security Free (Powered by Kaspersky)
- Panda Cloud Antivirus Free (it now has more goodies and its still free)
- plus the old bunch consisting of avast!, AVG and AVIRA

They all won't cost anyone any money, but they perform incredibly well. In my opinion far better than MSE. Sure MSE is an option but personally i wouldn't recommend it. It's better to set one of the above to auto clean threats and lock it with password if it will be used on a novice user computer.

[Krazy Owl]

What about the Norton internet security 2011 if I still can do the updates since its not been yet activated?

[Jetster]

Is MSE 4.1- Windows 8 included wit the 8 install or de you have to download it?

[lZKoce]

Originally Posted by Jetster

Is MSE 4.1- Windows 8 included wit the 8 install or de you have to download it?

It's included under the name of: Windows Defender.

[jboydgolfer]

I'll Apologize ahead of time for this, But I am REALLY Shady and Vague on this Particular subject and I'd love to get a REAL answer(seeing as how you all seem to know your stuff, and the topic is @ hand).If Someone doesn't mind answering Some Question's which , I CANNOT for the life of me find a DIRECT answer to online.How do I .....

A- know what Might be a sign of Mal/Spy/Ad -ware on My PC?
B- Go about Finding the Cause, or location of Said file/Program?
C- Deal with it,SAFELY, and or Properly?
.

And I reiterate, I REALLY did try to find answers to this on line, but I always get Some Damn site trying to sell me a program to Protect me against the things, that Frankly I suspect them of Trying to infect me with.

Any & all help is appreciated.
Best Regard's