Truly Ergonomic 209 En-QWERTY Keyboard Launched

btarunr · Dec 19, 2012, 06:33 AM

Japanese peripherals maker Truly Ergonomic, which designs stuff that lives up to its namesake, launched the 209 mechanical keyboard with an English-QWERTY layout (model: TECK209). The keyboard splits the alphabet keyset into two parts optimized for the way your two hands should be positioned for maximum ergonomic-comfort. The portion between the two halves are used to fill important formatting keys, each half has its own little space-bar. The Truly Ergonomic 209 uses Cherry MX Brown mechanical switches, which are known to provide good tactile feedback, and are durable for up to 20 million key presses. Backing the keys is a controller that supports N-key rollover with USB, letting you press any number of keys simultaneously. Measuring 333 × 238 mm (WxD), including its palm cushions, the keyboard weighs about 1.2 kg. It is priced around 19,800 JPY (US $235).

Source: Hermitage Akihabara

erixx · Dec 19, 2012, 07:00 AM

Good to see ideas with ergonomy in mind. But pic 4 is a marketing diagram, nothing in it is real, specially body proportions and arms.

SIGSEGV · Dec 19, 2012, 08:10 AM

James Bond said "Sometimes, the old ways are the best"

btarunr · Dec 19, 2012, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

James Bond said "Sometimes, the old ways are the best"

His idea of "old ways," I'm sure is using typewriters.

Rowsol · Dec 19, 2012, 08:25 AM

It looks nice for sure.

kroks · Dec 19, 2012, 08:33 AM

it even shrinks your arms

MaKCuMyC · Dec 19, 2012, 09:31 AM

nice bullshit.

SpookyWillow · Dec 19, 2012, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kroks

it even shrinks your arms

It depicts your arms are by your side with just your forearms raised, not shrunk

Either way this keyboard would do nothing for my pain in my wrists/forearms, I have RSI due to keystrokes and mouse clicking. They need to fix that too!

WhiteLotus · Dec 19, 2012, 10:33 AM

Microsoft have these keyboards for some time now.

lZKoce · Dec 19, 2012, 10:39 AM

I have never tried one those. I wonder if this side-oriented stuff really works. I'd love to give a spin on one of those.

LAN_deRf_HA · Dec 19, 2012, 11:34 AM

Funny yesterday I was forced to type in a position similar to the first diagram due to cat circumstances and it screwed my wrist up so bad I couldn't move it without extreme pain. Sorted itself out overnight though. So they're right it's bad but that's not really a position anyone would normally type in.

a_ump · Dec 19, 2012, 11:54 AM

everytime i see one of these keyboards i just can't imagine using one since i'm so used to an original keyboard that i was taught on. never have developed any wrist/hand pain, though only 21 so maybe in 10-20yrs XD

3870x2 · Dec 19, 2012, 12:25 PM

It looks like some actual research went into this.

Although it might take some getting used to, it looks like it would work quite well.

sc · Dec 19, 2012, 01:34 PM

Nobody types with their hands perpendicular on a normal keyboard like the 4th pic depicts.

Frick · Dec 19, 2012, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc

Nobody types with their hands perpendicular on a normal keyboard like the 4th pic depicts.

I do.

a111087 · Dec 20, 2012, 02:06 AM

it's pretty much this:

only smaller.
I'm have been using this MS keyboard for about a year or longer.
It takes sometime to get used to it, but I don't really feel any difference anymore.
I can still go back and forth between this and normal keyboards - really don't feel much of a difference.
Only one thing - it separates the keys in the middle encouraging you to use a proper hand to press each key for proper typing technique.
I still like MS keyboard though... If it broke today, I would buy exact same keyboard again. They are relatively cheap on eBay.

INSTG8R · Dec 20, 2012, 04:37 AM

Never wrapped my head around the Ergo layout. I mean I'm sure I easily could. I already bounce back forth between the Nordic Layout on my Laptop to my US Layout on my Desktop.

RejZoR · Dec 20, 2012, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erixx

Good to see ideas with ergonomy in mind. But pic 4 is a marketing diagram, nothing in it is real, specially body proportions and arms.

No, it's real, but on pic 4, desk is very high so the elbows are positioned like that and in the case of pic 5, the desk is very low. In reality, hands position is very similar in both cases if the desk is low enough (or the chair high enough).

lyndonguitar · Dec 20, 2012, 05:59 AM

Looks like a QWERTY phone's keypad

a_ump · Dec 20, 2012, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc

Nobody types with their hands perpendicular on a normal keyboard like the 4th pic depicts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frick

I do.

as do i....i didn't know there was another way to type besides chicken pecking.

pjladyfox · Dec 20, 2012, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a111087

I'm have been using this MS keyboard for about a year or longer.
It takes sometime to get used to it, but I don't really feel any difference anymore.
I can still go back and forth between this and normal keyboards - really don't feel much of a difference.
Only one thing - it separates the keys in the middle encouraging you to use a proper hand to press each key for proper typing technique.
I still like MS keyboard though... If it broke today, I would buy exact same keyboard again. They are relatively cheap on eBay.

I actually tried to use one of the Microsoft ones several times and just could not get adapted well enough to it without it causing me pain and discomfort. The one in the news post looks MUCH better and it does'nt have your arms so wide apart like the Microsoft one does 'tho the price is a bit much.

If this ever drops below the $100 mark I'll get one in a heartbeat otherwise I'll stick with my CM Storm mechanical without numpad which is as close as I've been able to get to an ideal keyboard here of late.

tacosRcool · Dec 21, 2012, 02:53 PM

this is truly scary looking

Bo$$ · Dec 23, 2012, 12:17 PM

Who the hell uses a keyboard with the elbows that far out?!

Clearly sitting too close to it!

Kreij · Dec 23, 2012, 01:20 PM

I've used ergonomic, split-key keyboards for years and currently have the same one that a111 posted above at home. At work I use a Logitech one.
Once you get used to them you will find them more comfortable and the correct hand placement will improve your typing speed as it prevents you from "cheating".
I would never go back to a straight keyboard on any machine I use regularly.

The one in the OP looks nice but not having a standard keypad is a deal breaker for me. I use it the keypad a lot. Some of the different key positions would take a bit of getting used to also.

evulmunk33 · Dec 24, 2012, 08:10 AM

might be nice once you get used to... but man, that sounds like itll take a while... :/
i tried that microsoft keyboard a while ago and while it felt comfortable it was frustrating to use...
i guess kids in school should work on ergonomic keyboards like this so they get used to it right away... im affraid its too late for me ^^

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