HD 6950/70 cooling and VRM

mike307 · Dec 30, 2012, 07:05 AM

Hey gays . i have a msi 6950 twin frozer 3 PE/OC edition card with unlocked 1536 shaders . this cooler is good for that price ?? for 48 euro
http://www.prolimatech.com/en/produc...=159&subid=688
My gpu-z 0.6.6 and msi afterburner dont shows my vrm temp . thats normal thing with msi card s ??

Jack1n · Dec 30, 2012, 07:07 AM

your VRM temp should be around +/- 5C of your core temp,whats ur core temp at load?

Darkleoco · Dec 30, 2012, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mike307

Hey gays . i have a msi 6950 twin frozer 3 PE/OC edition card with unlocked 1536 shaders . this cooler is good for that price ?? for 48 euro
http://www.prolimatech.com/en/produc...=159&subid=688
My gpu-z 0.6.6 and msi afterburner dont shows my vrm temp . thats normal thing with msi card s ??

If my Twin Frozr 2 PE/OC edition is anything to go by even if you were to bump up the voltage with a massive overclock it would be nothing to worry about, i generally sit around 60 C during heavy BF3/Skyrim/Borderlands 2 sessions and that is with a 940/1440 overclock and a crossfire setup. The Twin Frozr cooler alone is more than up to the task of keeping the card sufficiently cool.

mike307 · Dec 30, 2012, 07:11 AM

right now i am usind AC accelero S2 R2 with 2 12cm fan . furmark shows me on benchmark test 70c .

Darkleoco · Dec 30, 2012, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mike307

right now i am usind AC accelero S2 R2 with 2 12cm fan . furmark shows me on benchmark test 70c

If you are getting 70c on a benchmark then your temps while gaming will be in a completely safe range, if you have already changed out the aftermarket cooler for another what has you looking to make another change when your temperatures are well within the safe range

Jack1n · Dec 30, 2012, 07:14 AM

Your card is fine,save your money for some thing else.

mike307 · Dec 30, 2012, 07:15 AM

with my twin frozer coller during benchmark test in furmark at 50% restart s the card . the gpu temp 1 hits 100c

mike307 · Dec 30, 2012, 07:15 AM

the gpu temp 2 and 3 is around 90c

mike307 · Dec 30, 2012, 07:19 AM

In crysis 2 maximum edition 1080p max details directx11 i am gettin 60c with 50-60% gpu load

Jack1n · Dec 30, 2012, 07:19 AM

Was Probably not seated well,or paste wasent applied properly,should have just RMAed the thing instead of buying anuther cooler.

Darkleoco · Dec 30, 2012, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack1n

Was Probably not seated well,or paste wasent applied properly,should have just RMAed the thing instead of buying anuther cooler.

This just about sums it up, the Twin Frozr II cooler is inferior to that of the Twin Frozr III and my temps are well within normal ranges even during benchmarks with my core voltage increased to 1.21, you would have been better off just RMA'ing your card with the original cooler or attempting to reseat the cooler or change the paste as those temperatures are obviously not normal.

mike307 · Dec 30, 2012, 07:25 AM

i am using zalman zm-stg2 paste . i will post some screenshots from gpu

Darkleoco · Dec 30, 2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mike307

i am using zalman zm-stg2 paste

You have no reason to change your cooler 70 c during furmark is excellent as the stock cooler in W1zzard's review reached 69 c under load (which i assume is not furmark) and it is still considered to be "quite low". Please do yourself a favor and stick with your current cooler it is more than adequate and that way you could save your money for a video card upgrade in the future or at least not blow it on an unnecessary purchase.

AsRock · Dec 30, 2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkleoco

If you are getting 70c on a benchmark then your temps while gaming will be in a completely safe range, if you have already changed out the aftermarket cooler for another what has you looking to make another change when your temperatures are well within the safe range

Yeah temps look perfectly fine. although he should check the other temps in gpu-z as well just to make sure the contact is good still..

IDLE

Is the MK-13 worth $48 hell yeah it is and this is after running Skyrim and SR3 al though as you said it's not worth it to him as it seems like it's doing a good job as it is.

All so note that they might of not changed the VRM heatsink for the cooler still. I got mine way before the 6970 was released and had to mod the 5870 VRM heatsink to fit and this is the second card i have used it on 1st one being the 4890.

All so i run 3 120mm fans with the MK-13 1 at 729RPM and the other 2 just over 1000RPM.

mike307 · Dec 30, 2012, 01:57 PM

hear ar some pics . from crysis 2 and far cry 3 both max details dx11 1080p

james888 · Dec 30, 2012, 02:25 PM

I used to have a twinfrozr III 6950. I thought it was too loud myself so I installed an artic accellero 7970 cooler on it. These were some of the temps I got with that. After reseating the cooler I got about another 5c better cooling also beyond what is shown below.

Ambient air temp is 70.
Idle is 35c with artic cooler. 10c less than my tw3.
I used furmarks 15 minutes burn test for these tests.

The fan was on auto for this burn test.

The fan was on 100% for this burn test.

This is with auto fan but 950 core OC.

mike307 · Dec 30, 2012, 02:39 PM

in furmark i tested a bench mod . and after 50% i am geting 90c on gpu temp 1,2,3 . gpu temperature is on 75c my cooler is right noe ac accelero s2 rev2 + 2x 12cm fan

OneMoar · Dec 30, 2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack1n

your VRM temp should be around +/- 5C of your core temp,whats ur core temp at load?

uh no VRM's are normally rated for 120C MAX with around 100c being considered 'nominal operating temp'
VRM temp has very little todo with core temp the VRM's get much hotter

FreedomEclipse · Dec 30, 2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by james888

Ambient air temp is 70c

If your ambient temp is that hot, you either:

#A - Live in the sahara
#B - live quite close to an active volcano
#C - Need a case with better airflow/more case fans if the ambient temp inside the case is 70'c
#D - Need an Air Conditioner, if the Ambient temp we're talking about is room temperature

OneMoar · Dec 30, 2012, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FreedomEclipse

If your ambient temp is that hot, you either:

#A - Live in the sahara
#B - live quite close to an active volcano
#C - Need a case with better airflow/more case fans if the ambient temp inside the case is 70'c
#D - Need an Air Conditioner, if the Ambient temp we're talking about is room temperature

if the Ambient temp was that hot he'd be DEAD in about an hour

FreedomEclipse · Dec 30, 2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OneMoar

if the Ambient temp was that hot he'd be DEAD in about an hour

No, no...

Lets give him a chance,

maybe hes the royal descendant of bear grylls.

Bear Grylls is once said to have survived Arctic temperatures in nothing but a pair of hotpants.

everyone deserves their shot at fame.

If he's not the man we think he is then he could always drink his own piss

OneMoar · Dec 30, 2012, 09:44 PM

mmM M Grilled bear

Jack1n · Dec 30, 2012, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OneMoar

uh no VRM's are normally rated for 120C MAX with around 100c being considered 'nominal operating temp'
VRM temp has very little todo with core temp the VRM's get much hotter

Every single card ive had the VRM's are pretty much more or less the same temp as the core at any given moment,that includes my current card which has no VRM cooling at all.

james888 · Dec 30, 2012, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FreedomEclipse

If your ambient temp is that hot, you either:

#A - Live in the sahara
#B - live quite close to an active volcano
#C - Need a case with better airflow/more case fans if the ambient temp inside the case is 70'c
#D - Need an Air Conditioner, if the Ambient temp we're talking about is room temperature

Nice catch. I had to read that twice before I cought on. Yes. 70f.

mike307 · Jan 1, 2013, 03:57 PM

hey . is there a software witch i can measure the vrm temp ?

Dec 30, 2012, 07:05 AM	#1
mike307 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SLOVAKIA Posts: 26 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	HD 6950/70 cooling and VRM Hey gays . i have a msi 6950 twin frozer 3 PE/OC edition card with unlocked 1536 shaders . this cooler is good for that price ?? for 48 euro http://www.prolimatech.com/en/produc...=159&subid=688 My gpu-z 0.6.6 and msi afterburner dont shows my vrm temp . thats normal thing with msi card s ??

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