Overclock tuning troubles 2500k

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:05 PM

Hey Guys,

So Ive had this 2500k, Asrock P67 Extreme 4 Gen3 board and the memory in my system specs for a while now. And just yesterday it dawned on me to check voltages with CPUz while doing some movie editing stuff, and the CPU voltage was reached 1.43v when I know when i first did the overclocking settings it only got to 1.32. I have a feeling this hike in voltage is because i recent changed from LLC level 5 to 1. So I went in to try and get the voltage back down, and reset the CMOS. To redo it all. However I noticed the voltage number sitting by the CPU vcore option was at 1.39, and then it dropped to 1.20 after CMOS clearing and reboot.

Multi is 45
Turbo Mode is on
Voltage is in offset mode at +0.100 to hit 1.300v at load. Then I have all the rest of the voltage and memory settings exactly how it was before.

Booted to windows, ran some prime, and the voltage got all the way to 1.5v at sat there. I dont see how 1.20v + 0.100v equals 1.5 haha. Dave was always telling me to run fixed mode to have a stable voltage which is easier i would think, but i like when the system would throttle down to 1.6ghz and just over 1.0v while browsing the web since ti doesnt need all the voltage. I can jsut keep lowering the offset voltage amount till it gets to around 1.32v at load though. Guys have any ideas on how to go? 1.5v just scares the shit out of me with this chip haha.

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:07 PM

Doesnt this board have increments of +0.010? I know on my gigabyte its +0.070 for 1.32V +0.100 seems high. All boards are not the same when it comes to offset voltages I have seen between my ASROCK Z68 and Gigabyte Z68

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Doesnt this board have increments of +0.010? I know on my gigabyte its +0.070 for 1.32V +0.100 seems high. All boards are not the same when it comes to offset voltages I have seen between my ASROCK Z68 and Gigabyte Z68

Yeah I does. GOing to reboot and drop it a bit more. Ill just drop it till i cant boot anymore haha

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

Yeah I does. GOing to reboot and drop it a bit more.

What you should do is set stock clocks then test out each offset voltage with prime or intelburn test. This is how I found the perfect offset to make my OC stay around 1.32V during load.

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

What you should do is set stock clocks then test out each offset voltage with prime or intelburn test. This is how I found the perfect offset to make my OC stay around 1.32V during load.

Thats a pretty good idea. ill try that out after this one tweak im going to try.

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

Thats a pretty good idea. ill try that out after this one tweak im going to try.

Also test each LLC setting to see how much it wants to ramp up voltage during load.

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Also test each LLC setting to see how much it wants to ramp up voltage during load.

Awesome. First try to the whole stock clocks and test each offset, and first one i tried. +.015v got me 1.32v constant load voltage.

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

Awesome. First try to the whole stock clocks and test each offset, and first one i tried. +.015v got me 1.32v constant load voltage.

Not too bad. Yea seems like your board likes the small increments. Now once you have found the voltage you needed with the OC, set the OC back in bios and have a good burn session to make sure its stable and you should be golden.

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Not too bad. Yea seems like your board likes the small increments. Now once you have found the voltage you needed with the OC, set the OC back in bios and have a good burn session to make sure its stable and you should be golden.

yeah buddy, in the BIOS right now setting the overclock again. I like that little finding the offset voltage trick with stock clocks. Never thought of that one before.

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

yeah buddy, in the BIOS right now setting the overclock again. I like that little finding the offset voltage trick with stock clocks. Never thought of that one before.

Yea took me a while to stumble on that. I first found my stable voltage by using fixed voltages then found the same voltage using offset with stock clocks. Overall not to difficult unless you increase the offset too much and fry something.

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Yea took me a while to stumble on that. I first found my stable voltage by using fixed voltages then found the same voltage using offset with stock clocks. Overall not to difficult unless you increase the offset too much and fry something.

yeah like I almost just did? lol

cadaveca · Jan 7, 2013, 07:22 PM

Not likely you would have.

Do you still have your memory settings, or do you need those again?

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

yeah like I almost just did? lol

wtf, Under prime95 with the overclock back at 4.5GHZ its getting to 1.45v. I think I messed with one of the power settings in the BIOS a bit to much haha.

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

yeah like I almost just did? lol

Once thing I like about my board is that it has 10 levels of LLC with 5 being normal voltage so I leave it at normal so finding the offset is easier and there is little to no Vdroop during load.

cadaveca · Jan 7, 2013, 07:23 PM

With offset votlages, the VID supplied will change when the multi changes, so to find out what offset you need, you need to load up the CPU with that multi first, then adjust with offset.

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

With offset votlages, the VID supplied will change when the multi changes, so to find out what offset you need, you need to load up the CPU with that multi first, then adjust with offset.

Well its doing 1.44v in prime95 at 45 multi at +0.015v offset. At stock 33 multi it only did 1.32v while running prime.

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

Well its doing 1.44v in prime95 at 45 multi at +0.015v offset. At stock 33 multi it only did 1.32v while running prime.

Hmmm wonder why this worked for me on the gigabyte board? it seems kinda odd now that dave has said this. I may need to go back and check my load voltages or it maybe the LLC setting I have set.

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:28 PM

Or it could be that i messed with the Short Duration and Long Duration power Limits lol. My LLC is at level 1. But I dont know what to do now to get the voltage down to 1.32v at 4.5GHZ

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

Or it could be that i messed with the Short Duration and Long Duration power Limits lol. My LLC is at level 1. But I dont know what to do now to get the voltage down to 1.32v at 4.5GHZ

Try a negitive offset. such as -0.010

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:36 PM

maybe its the LLC level 1 messing with shit. Going to try 5 agian.

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:39 PM

Yep, that was the problem. LLC Level 1. Runs at 1.32v now, and then it just blue screened in prime lol

With code 0x124

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

maybe its the LLC level 1 messing with shit. Going to try 5 agian.

You that maybe the issue. LLC varies from board to board

CPU Load-Line Calibration: Level 2 or Level 3 (whichever one will get you closest to BIOS Vcore)
~When a CPU increases to max speed, the Vcore usually tends to drop down. This is known as Vdroop. If the Vcore drops down too much, it can lead to stability issues. To combat this, CPU LLC was made to offset this loss. Level 5 (0%) will net you the least compensation, Level 3 (50%) an average compensation, and Level 1 (100%) the most compensation. You want to find the setting that will get you the same Vcore that is says in BIOS, during load in Windows as reported by CPU-Z.
~Level 1 seems to spike your Vcore up really high during load, so I do not recommend using that.

cadaveca · Jan 7, 2013, 07:42 PM

llc on ASRock board here is 1-10, 10 is lowest, 5 is what you set is what you get, 1 is boosted.

LLC is different on all boards, dependant on who made the board.

brandonwh64 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:43 PM

I found a full OCing guide that uses the board you have.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1198504/c...asrock-edition

MxPhenom 216 · Jan 7, 2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

llc on ASRock board here is 1-10, 10 is lowest, 5 is what you set is what you get, 1 is boosted.

LLC is different on all boards, dependant on who made the board.

5 is the lowest on my board. I only have 1-5

Jan 7, 2013, 07:05 PM	#1
MxPhenom 216 Knowledgeable Posting Whore Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,040 (5.90/day) Thanks: 1,340 Thanked 1,203 Times in 909 Posts System Specs	Overclock tuning troubles 2500k Hey Guys, So Ive had this 2500k, Asrock P67 Extreme 4 Gen3 board and the memory in my system specs for a while now. And just yesterday it dawned on me to check voltages with CPUz while doing some movie editing stuff, and the CPU voltage was reached 1.43v when I know when i first did the overclocking settings it only got to 1.32. I have a feeling this hike in voltage is because i recent changed from LLC level 5 to 1. So I went in to try and get the voltage back down, and reset the CMOS. To redo it all. However I noticed the voltage number sitting by the CPU vcore option was at 1.39, and then it dropped to 1.20 after CMOS clearing and reboot. Multi is 45 Turbo Mode is on Voltage is in offset mode at +0.100 to hit 1.300v at load. Then I have all the rest of the voltage and memory settings exactly how it was before. Booted to windows, ran some prime, and the voltage got all the way to 1.5v at sat there. I dont see how 1.20v + 0.100v equals 1.5 haha. Dave was always telling me to run fixed mode to have a stable voltage which is easier i would think, but i like when the system would throttle down to 1.6ghz and just over 1.0v while browsing the web since ti doesnt need all the voltage. I can jsut keep lowering the offset voltage amount till it gets to around 1.32v at load though. Guys have any ideas on how to go? 1.5v just scares the shit out of me with this chip haha. __________________ Motocross is not just a sport, it's a lifestyle. File Server: Intel Pentium G630, 8GB PNY 1600, AsRock H77M Micro, Corsair CX430M, Vertex 2 90GB (OS), 2x WD Red 2TB in RAID1 “We will never know our full potential, unless we push ourselves to find it. -Travis Rice”

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Processor:	Intel Core i5 2500k @ 4.5GHZ 1.36v
Motherboard:	AsRock Extreme4 Gen3 P67
Cooling:	EK Supremacy w/ Black Ice X-Flow 240
Memory:	Corsair Dominator Platinums 8GB 4GBx2 2133mhz 1.5v
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Jan 7, 2013, 07:07 PM	#2
brandonwh64 Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chatsworth, GA Posts: 13,667 (9.89/day) Thanks: 2,165 Thanked 5,382 Times in 3,729 Posts System Specs	Doesnt this board have increments of +0.010? I know on my gigabyte its +0.070 for 1.32V +0.100 seems high. All boards are not the same when it comes to offset voltages I have seen between my ASROCK Z68 and Gigabyte Z68 __________________ Cruncher's: All GPU's GPU's: 7970 3GB = 8 Threads 5770 1GB OCed = 2 Threads

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System Name:	My System
Processor:	Intel Core i5 2500k @ 4.5GHZ 1.36v
Motherboard:	AsRock Extreme4 Gen3 P67
Cooling:	EK Supremacy w/ Black Ice X-Flow 240
Memory:	Corsair Dominator Platinums 8GB 4GBx2 2133mhz 1.5v
Video Card:	EVGA Geforce GTX780 3GB
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CRT/LCD Model:	Dell U2412M IPS 24" 1920 x 1200
Case:	Corsair Carbide Series 500r w/ 2x Corsair AF120 fans
Sound Card:	HT Omega Striker 7.1
PSU:	Corsair HX850 Gen1 Silver
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1

Jan 7, 2013, 07:22 PM	#12
cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,932 (4.16/day) Thanks: 4,718 Thanked 5,464 Times in 3,308 Posts System Specs	Not likely you would have. Do you still have your memory settings, or do you need those again? __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way.

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Jan 7, 2013, 07:23 PM	#15
cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,932 (4.16/day) Thanks: 4,718 Thanked 5,464 Times in 3,308 Posts System Specs	With offset votlages, the VID supplied will change when the multi changes, so to find out what offset you need, you need to load up the CPU with that multi first, then adjust with offset. __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way.

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MxPhenom 216 Knowledgeable Posting Whore Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,040 (5.90/day) Thanks: 1,340 Thanked 1,203 Times in 909 Posts System Specs	Or it could be that i messed with the Short Duration and Long Duration power Limits lol. My LLC is at level 1. But I dont know what to do now to get the voltage down to 1.32v at 4.5GHZ __________________ Motocross is not just a sport, it's a lifestyle. File Server: Intel Pentium G630, 8GB PNY 1600, AsRock H77M Micro, Corsair CX430M, Vertex 2 90GB (OS), 2x WD Red 2TB in RAID1 “We will never know our full potential, unless we push ourselves to find it. -Travis Rice”

Jan 7, 2013, 07:36 PM	#20
MxPhenom 216 Knowledgeable Posting Whore Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,040 (5.90/day) Thanks: 1,340 Thanked 1,203 Times in 909 Posts System Specs	maybe its the LLC level 1 messing with shit. Going to try 5 agian. __________________ Motocross is not just a sport, it's a lifestyle. File Server: Intel Pentium G630, 8GB PNY 1600, AsRock H77M Micro, Corsair CX430M, Vertex 2 90GB (OS), 2x WD Red 2TB in RAID1 “We will never know our full potential, unless we push ourselves to find it. -Travis Rice”

Jan 7, 2013, 07:39 PM	#21
MxPhenom 216 Knowledgeable Posting Whore Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 6,040 (5.90/day) Thanks: 1,340 Thanked 1,203 Times in 909 Posts System Specs	Yep, that was the problem. LLC Level 1. Runs at 1.32v now, and then it just blue screened in prime lol With code 0x124 __________________ Motocross is not just a sport, it's a lifestyle. File Server: Intel Pentium G630, 8GB PNY 1600, AsRock H77M Micro, Corsair CX430M, Vertex 2 90GB (OS), 2x WD Red 2TB in RAID1 “We will never know our full potential, unless we push ourselves to find it. -Travis Rice”

Jan 7, 2013, 07:42 PM	#23
cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,932 (4.16/day) Thanks: 4,718 Thanked 5,464 Times in 3,308 Posts System Specs	llc on ASRock board here is 1-10, 10 is lowest, 5 is what you set is what you get, 1 is boosted. LLC is different on all boards, dependant on who made the board. __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way.

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brandonwh64 Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chatsworth, GA Posts: 13,667 (9.89/day) Thanks: 2,165 Thanked 5,382 Times in 3,729 Posts System Specs	I found a full OCing guide that uses the board you have. http://www.overclock.net/t/1198504/c...asrock-edition __________________ Cruncher's: All GPU's GPU's: 7970 3GB = 8 Threads 5770 1GB OCed = 2 Threads

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