E2180 VS 651 Need help!

Krazy Owl · Jan 17, 2013, 04:25 AM

http://www.techpowerup.com/cpudb/335..._4_HT_651.html

VS

http://www.techpowerup.com/cpudb/847...ore_E2180.html

The max usage of the cpu is Battlefield 2 multiplayer, youtube, dvd movie on a 8600GT hdmi at 1080P.

Single core 3.4 2m cache or duo core 2.0 1m cache ? Both have same "nm" size.

I am not able to overclock on this board I think.

HalfAHertz · Jan 17, 2013, 04:33 AM

Its a no brainer - go for the e2180. Those little beasts overclock like crazy, if the bios is locked maybe you could try a software solution like setFSB? You could easily get it to 2.6-2.8 GHz on the stock cooler.

Krazy Owl · Jan 17, 2013, 04:38 AM

It's an Acer mobo made by Intel so not really a good overclocker and the bios is locked.

KainXS · Jan 17, 2013, 05:43 AM

thats a real shame, I have seen most E2180's get to 3.5Ghz with a decent board and heatsink

but its still better than that damned P4

terrastrife · Jan 17, 2013, 05:55 AM

In this case due to the difference in architecture, even single threaded apps on the Pentium Dual core will be very close to the performance of the Pentium 4 evenwith the massive difference in clock. Don't forget the energy savings, better threaded performance, etc.

KainXS there's a good chance you could just BESL mod overclock the 2180 :3

Aquinus · Jan 17, 2013, 07:54 AM

Is this a question?

Netburst has been considerbly slower per clock when the core-series architecture came out reducing the pipeline from something like 36 stages down to 14 stages. All in all, it doesn't really matter if you can overclock or not, the E3180 is your best bet. Never go with the netburst chip.

Bo$$ · Jan 17, 2013, 08:02 AM

you can probably still do a BSEL mod to overclock

Jetster · Jan 17, 2013, 08:02 AM

The e2180 is a lovely chip

Krazy Owl · Jan 17, 2013, 08:26 AM

What is BSEL ?

Bo$$ · Jan 17, 2013, 08:44 AM

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=135221 I can't find the link right now. there is a guide on Overclock.net try and google it

Krazy Owl · Jan 17, 2013, 08:02 PM

Is there any other tool to try to raisde the fsb ? I tried it and kid of akward but i dont see anyway there to raise it.

3870x2 · Jan 17, 2013, 08:40 PM

Isn't the e2180 way ahead of the 651? I figured it was like comparing a 2180 to an i5.

Bo$$ · Jan 17, 2013, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krazy Owl

Is there any other tool to try to raisde the fsb ? I tried it and kid of akward but i dont see anyway there to raise it.

Nope, BSEL is easiest

DarkOCean · Jan 17, 2013, 09:05 PM

this is what i use

works for e21xx chips to up the fsb from 800 to 1066.
I use al self adhesive band.

Krazy Owl · Jan 17, 2013, 09:06 PM

This is for FSB mod of voltage ?

DarkOCean · Jan 17, 2013, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krazy Owl

This is for FSB mod of voltage ?

The one from my post is only for fsb but there is one for the voltage as well.
Edit: this is for 1.4 v

Krazy Owl · Jan 18, 2013, 06:28 PM

Does it still work the graphite pencil trick ?

niko084 · Jan 18, 2013, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krazy Owl

Does it still work the graphite pencil trick ?

It can but not really the best route to go for a few reasons, such as resistance and probably a few others I'm not thinking about right now.

Krazy Owl · Jan 18, 2013, 06:44 PM

It is my first time doing pen mod so I prefer to try with something i already got here instead of ordering a 20$ pencil over the net.

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