Anyone wise with fx and asus mobo?

d1nky · Jan 27, 2013, 05:57 PM

ive been up all weekend learning the art of overclocking, however im very dubious about bios settings and monitoring programs......

1. whenever I set cpu voltage through bios ('overvoltage' with asus mobo) the voltages do not keep to that setting and as can be seen in my picture they usually exceed the setting.

2. whenever I set my clock through multiplier that also changes and usually jumps up from 3.6 (default) to 3.7 or 3.8, for example. The bus speed when set to 200, when in windows and loaded it jumps up as well.

3. I cant seem to find a program which I can rely on, ive tried every single one noted on forums etc... my favourite so far is HWinfo but other programs seem to be showing different stats.

4. also why the hell has asus got so many auto modes and unleash this and unlock that

*this pic was taken testing default, to try show you guys. I did have a stable clock at 4.3ghz vcore 1.389 (tested 3 hours prime and heaven, also opening all applications etc on my desktop) but hwmonitor showed voltage jumping over 1.55. so I went to default!

Beforehand Thanks for the replies.

drdeathx · Jan 27, 2013, 06:06 PM

Turn turbo, cool n quiet and C1E off in the bios.

d1nky · Jan 27, 2013, 06:09 PM

by turbo you mean amd unleash, core unlocker, or some other turbo all cores? when I turn cool and quiet off my fan maxs out and I haven't found a C1E but I do have C6 state?

drdeathx · Jan 27, 2013, 06:10 PM

Ooops C6,disable it, There should be a turbo, disable that too

d1nky · Jan 27, 2013, 06:18 PM

brilliant..... I also read somewhere that through windows its best to change power settings, but im guessing that will be done through bios with the c6 and turbo etc?

thanks for being quick

d1nky · Jan 27, 2013, 06:43 PM

seems that amd turbo core, core performance boost was automatically upping volts and, multipliers and frequencies....something they don't tell you in the instructions!

drdeathx · Jan 27, 2013, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1nky

brilliant..... I also read somewhere that through windows its best to change power settings, but im guessing that will be done through bios with the c6 and turbo etc?

thanks for being quick

yes

de.das.dude · Jan 27, 2013, 07:27 PM

turn loqd line caliberqtion off. also m5 boards tend to overvoltage a bit with the digi vrm. but its stable.

erocker · Jan 27, 2013, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by de.das.dude

turn loqd line caliberqtion off. also m5 boards tend to overvoltage a bit with the digi vrm. but its stable.

LLC helps with vdroop. I generally set it to on, see what kind of voltage I get and then adjust it to where I want it.

de.das.dude · Jan 27, 2013, 07:29 PM

set ur northbridge to 2.6ghz or more

erocker · Jan 27, 2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by de.das.dude

set ur northbridge to 2.6ghz or more

With an FX chip it makes little to no difference and causes instability much quicker than using a Phenom.

de.das.dude · Jan 27, 2013, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

LLC helps with vdroop. I generally set it to on, see what kind of voltage I get and then adjust it to where I want it.

yes I do that too but its easier for a beginer for thing to not get complicated. I pay little heed to the bios setting. I always put it thru a load cycle to check the voltages. speed fan's graph comes in handy.

d1nky · Jan 27, 2013, 09:47 PM

that's a lot to take in..... im disabling LLC! (http://www.masterslair.com/vdroop-an...op-really-bad/) I did notice some software is telling me I got more voltage than I set in bios. (take it that's the LLC counteracting Vdroop)!

im not adjusting NB bridge its on auto??

what is the stock voltage for FX chips, ive looked everywhere and get 0.935 - 1.400?? ive punched in 1.25 and on screen I get 1.308??

Jstn7477 · Jan 27, 2013, 11:19 PM

When I had my FX-8150 and ASRock 990FX Extreme4, I actually had to disable LLC to literally stop getting ~120mV of vdroop under full load. I don't know if this is specific to ASRock's boards or not, but disabling LLC meant I pretty much got the voltage I plugged into UEFI all the time, instead of having to set 1.45v to get 1.32v under full load.

d1nky · Jan 28, 2013, 12:06 AM

im glad you replied im actually in the process of voltage tweakin, and it aint good..... I punch in 1.375 and that can spike to 1.420 and vdroop to 1.320 and less! on this board I cannot find the setting to disable LLC there is just a choice of percentages and im guessin 0% = no LLC??

I did read up on the pro's and con's of LLC... also posted a link to it all explained but im finding it difficult to get a stable Vcore setting?

Jan 27, 2013, 05:57 PM	#1
d1nky Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: england Posts: 847 (6.87/day) Thanks: 363 Thanked 293 Times in 180 Posts System Specs	Anyone wise with fx and asus mobo? ive been up all weekend learning the art of overclocking, however im very dubious about bios settings and monitoring programs...... 1. whenever I set cpu voltage through bios ('overvoltage' with asus mobo) the voltages do not keep to that setting and as can be seen in my picture they usually exceed the setting. 2. whenever I set my clock through multiplier that also changes and usually jumps up from 3.6 (default) to 3.7 or 3.8, for example. The bus speed when set to 200, when in windows and loaded it jumps up as well. 3. I cant seem to find a program which I can rely on, ive tried every single one noted on forums etc... my favourite so far is HWinfo but other programs seem to be showing different stats. 4. also why the hell has asus got so many auto modes and unleash this and unlock that *this pic was taken testing default, to try show you guys. I did have a stable clock at 4.3ghz vcore 1.389 (tested 3 hours prime and heaven, also opening all applications etc on my desktop) but hwmonitor showed voltage jumping over 1.55. so I went to default! Beforehand Thanks for the replies.

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Jan 27, 2013, 06:06 PM	#2
drdeathx Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 1,516 (1.03/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 336 Times in 276 Posts System Specs	Turn turbo, cool n quiet and C1E off in the bios.

Jan 27, 2013, 06:09 PM	#3
d1nky Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: england Posts: 847 (6.87/day) Thanks: 363 Thanked 293 Times in 180 Posts System Specs	by turbo you mean amd unleash, core unlocker, or some other turbo all cores? when I turn cool and quiet off my fan maxs out and I haven't found a C1E but I do have C6 state?

Jan 27, 2013, 06:10 PM	#4
drdeathx Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago burbs Posts: 1,516 (1.03/day) Thanks: 39 Thanked 336 Times in 276 Posts System Specs	Ooops C6,disable it, There should be a turbo, disable that too

Jan 27, 2013, 06:18 PM	#5
d1nky Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: england Posts: 847 (6.87/day) Thanks: 363 Thanked 293 Times in 180 Posts System Specs	brilliant..... I also read somewhere that through windows its best to change power settings, but im guessing that will be done through bios with the c6 and turbo etc? thanks for being quick

Jan 27, 2013, 06:43 PM	#6
d1nky Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: england Posts: 847 (6.87/day) Thanks: 363 Thanked 293 Times in 180 Posts System Specs	seems that amd turbo core, core performance boost was automatically upping volts and, multipliers and frequencies....something they don't tell you in the instructions!

Jan 27, 2013, 07:27 PM	#8
de.das.dude Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Wild Wild East Posts: 4,585 (4.26/day) Thanks: 2,337 Thanked 1,342 Times in 919 Posts System Specs	turn loqd line caliberqtion off. also m5 boards tend to overvoltage a bit with the digi vrm. but its stable. __________________ my wallet isnt hashwell compatiple sad face

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Jan 27, 2013, 07:29 PM	#10
de.das.dude Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Wild Wild East Posts: 4,585 (4.26/day) Thanks: 2,337 Thanked 1,342 Times in 919 Posts System Specs	set ur northbridge to 2.6ghz or more __________________ my wallet isnt hashwell compatiple sad face

Jan 27, 2013, 09:47 PM	#13
d1nky Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: england Posts: 847 (6.87/day) Thanks: 363 Thanked 293 Times in 180 Posts System Specs	that's a lot to take in..... im disabling LLC! (http://www.masterslair.com/vdroop-an...op-really-bad/) I did notice some software is telling me I got more voltage than I set in bios. (take it that's the LLC counteracting Vdroop)! im not adjusting NB bridge its on auto?? what is the stock voltage for FX chips, ive looked everywhere and get 0.935 - 1.400?? ive punched in 1.25 and on screen I get 1.308?? Last edited by d1nky; Jan 27, 2013 at 10:17 PM. Reason: update

Jan 27, 2013, 11:19 PM	#14
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Jan 28, 2013, 12:06 AM	#15
d1nky Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: england Posts: 847 (6.87/day) Thanks: 363 Thanked 293 Times in 180 Posts System Specs	im glad you replied im actually in the process of voltage tweakin, and it aint good..... I punch in 1.375 and that can spike to 1.420 and vdroop to 1.320 and less! on this board I cannot find the setting to disable LLC there is just a choice of percentages and im guessin 0% = no LLC?? I did read up on the pro's and con's of LLC... also posted a link to it all explained but im finding it difficult to get a stable Vcore setting?

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