AMD Releases FX-4130 "Vishera" Quad-Core Processor

[Ralfies]

Originally Posted by okidna

That's the "old" Zambezi based 4130 : http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldo...20FX-4130.html

That's just downright confusing! Why wouldn't AMD want to differentiate this from the older/suckier Zambezi chip? Marketing just doesn't make sense to me...

[symmetrical]

Tom's Hardware just updated, it's not a new processor. It's the same 4130 but price dropped to $101

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/AMD...130,20799.html

[Cataclysm_ZA]

I've actually been wondering how long it would take until someone else would catch on that this is still a Zambezi chip, not Vishera. Its ridiculous to think that a quad-core Piledriver would have a TDP of 125W when the FX-4300 has a 95W TDP.

Sadly, other publications on the internet that I've contacted refuse to change the article to reflect that this is a price drop, not a new processor release. The FX-4130 has been around since late August last year.

[eidairaman1]

if you truly want to know the difference between chips check the effin OPN and Stepping

[micropage7]

come on, i wait for power and performance ratio
200 watts? too bad..

[tacosRcool]

The name is very misleading since its Piledriver vs Bulldozer

[Aquinus]

If AMD was smart (and could scrounge up the money,) moving their CPUs to a smaller process would help with the power consumption issue and at the same time will improve clock speeds and performance. I feel AMD is just beating around the bush every time they release another 32nm chip.

[Norton]

Originally Posted by Aquinus

If AMD was smart (and could scrounge up the money,) moving their CPUs to a smaller process would help with the power consumption issue and at the same time will improve clock speeds and performance. I feel AMD is just beating around the bush every time they release another 32nm chip.

iirc AMD is bringing their CPU's down to 28nm to match the GPU side first in order to utilize a common process. The upcoming generation of APU's should be this way.

After that? Who knows....

[newtekie1]

Originally Posted by micropage7

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/at...1&d=1359712065
come on, i wait for power and performance ratio
200 watts? too bad..

That is entire system power draw, not just the processor.

Originally Posted by Cataclysm_ZA

I've actually been wondering how long it would take until someone else would catch on that this is still a Zambezi chip, not Vishera. Its ridiculous to think that a quad-core Piledriver would have a TDP of 125W when the FX-4300 has a 95W TDP.

Sadly, other publications on the internet that I've contacted refuse to change the article to reflect that this is a price drop, not a new processor release. The FX-4130 has been around since late August last year.

It is probably going to take a pretty long while since this isn't a Zambezi chip. The Zambezi FX-4130 has an OPN of FD4130FRGUBOX, the new Vishera FX-4130's OPN is FD4130WMHKBOX.

What I find odd is that AMD is acting like the Zambezi FX-4130 never existed. They are comparing the new FX-4130 to the FX-4100. I'm guessing that is because if they compared it to the old FX-4130 the improvements would be non-existent...

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by micropage7

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/at...1&d=1359712065
come on, i wait for power and performance ratio
200 watts? too bad..

I think there is other information we need before this graph really means much of anything. What about the rest of the platform? As far as we know the platform isn't consistant between CPUs.

Also, people bash AMD because they consume they "consume a lot of power," but you know AMD processors release less of its total consumed power as heat as opposed to Intel. So an Intel chip with the same power draw as an AMD CPU will release more of that energy as heat. Just some food for thought. I suspect this is a SOI vs HKMG difference.

[Cataclysm_ZA]

Originally Posted by newtekie1

It is probably going to take a pretty long while since this isn't a Zambezi chip. The Zambezi FX-4130 has an OPN of FD4130FRGUBOX, the new Vishera FX-4130's OPN is FD4130WMHKBOX.

Have you taken into account that the change in the OPN numbers could be because they're shipping a different cooler in the box? Because that's all that's really changed, in addition to the price drop.

Originally Posted by newtekie1

What I find odd is that AMD is acting like the Zambezi FX-4130 never existed. They are comparing the new FX-4130 to the FX-4100. I'm guessing that is because if they compared it to the old FX-4130 the improvements would be non-existent...

Still doesn't make sense, AMD would never release a chip from the Vishera family to market with the same naming convention as Bulldozer - their entire philosophy now is simplifying their chip lineup, not expanding it to the absurdity that we see with Intel. The FX-4300 starts off with the same default clocks and a higher boost speed but consumes less power and produces less heat - that's a Piledriver chip, unlike the FX-4130 which was released last year.