Mac Pro Gets Updated This Spring, Powered by Ivy Bridge-EP Xeon - Page 5

TheMailMan78 · Feb 12, 2013, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

How is the build quality better? I keep hearing this but from what I understand it uses most types of OEM parts of intel?

The build quality IS NOT BETTER. That USED to be true. Not anymore.

brandonwh64 · Feb 12, 2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

The build quality IS NOT BETTER. That USED to be true. Not anymore.

This is what I had thought cause there are MANY cases out there that are much nicer than any of the MAC's I have seen also the hardware is very close to the intel components we use in PC's so that is were I was questioning the "Quality"?

ensabrenoir · Feb 12, 2013, 06:00 PM

Its all about image......Bill Gates was a rock star and his products had a great presentation

brandonwh64 · Feb 12, 2013, 06:03 PM

After looking at the latest iMac and Mac Pro, These are build on all PC hardware... The only thing different between Mac Pro and a Dell Workstation is the OS

They are also still using a 2003 case design LOL

Easy Rhino · Feb 12, 2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

After looking at the latest iMac and Mac Pro, These are build on all PC hardware... The only thing different between Mac Pro and a Dell Workstation is the OS

They are also still using a 2003 case design LOL

which dell workstation are you comparing this mac pro to?

brandonwh64 · Feb 12, 2013, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

which dell workstation are you comparing this mac pro to?

T5600's Roughly the same when configured. Only difference is OS

Frick · Feb 12, 2013, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

After looking at the latest iMac and Mac Pro, These are build on all PC hardware... The only thing different between Mac Pro and a Dell Workstation is the OS

They are also still using a 2003 case design LOL

Sigh. Ok. The Mac Pro has not had an update since like 2010. Which is what this thread is about, a supposed refresh plus a hope that the entire thing will be updated. And all Macs have had PC hardware since 2006. I really have no idea what your point is.

And the only difference is not only the OS. You have to look at how it is to upgrade, support etc.

brandonwh64 · Feb 12, 2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Frick

Sigh. Ok. The Mac Pro has not had an update since like 2010. Which is what this thread is about, a supposed refresh plus a hope that the entire thing will be updated. And all Macs have had PC hardware since 2006. I really have no idea what your point is.

And the only difference is not only the OS. You have to look at how it is to upgrade, support etc.

It shows on their page the new updates to Mac Pro such as the newer xeons so my point is that the hardware compares to a Dell workstation and that they seem to have only different OS's

I know dell support is quite good especially here at my company. If we have a dell workstation die, its replaced same day through dell local support.

Easy Rhino · Feb 12, 2013, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

T5600's Roughly the same when configured. Only difference is OS

no, how exactly did you configure it? because if you look at the mid-range Dell it is $2000 WITHOUT THE SERVICE AGREEMENT.

brandonwh64 · Feb 12, 2013, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

no, how exactly did you configure it? because if you look at the mid-range Dell it is $2000 WITHOUT THE SERVICE AGREEMENT.

Most workstations that are purchased are through tech level agreements with companys. I do not see anyone needing these for home use.

Easy Rhino · Feb 12, 2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Most workstations that are purchased are through tech level agreements with companys. I do not see anyone needing these for home use.

i can't seem to make a good one to one comparison. the companies offer different solutions to similar problems. one happens to cost a little bit more. it just so happens that the more expensive one is the mac pro and you can chalk that up to brand recognition, build quality, superior technical support, and the operating system (whether you like it or not.)

brandonwh64 · Feb 12, 2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

i can't seem to make a good one to one comparison. the companies offer different solutions to similar problems. one happens to cost a little bit more. it just so happens that the more expensive one is the mac pro and you can chalk that up to brand recognition, build quality, superior technical support, and the operating system (whether you like it or not.)

Really were I was coming from is it goes off what your company needs. Windows or IOS

buildzoid · Feb 13, 2013, 07:18 AM

the Mac pros suck they use cheap AMD GPUs with processors selling 2x the true price like seriously a max speced custom LGA2011 system will destroy (gaming also) it and cost less 9k$ vs 8k$

Aquinus · Feb 13, 2013, 08:15 AM

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the Mac pros suck they use cheap AMD GPUs with processors selling 2x the true price like seriously a max speced custom LGA2011 system will destroy (gaming also) it and cost less 9k$ vs 8k$

Don't post if all you're going to do is troll.

If you're getting a Mac for gaming than you need to get your head examined. More often than not, a person getting a Mac Pro has a particular use case and most likely can benefit from having more than 4-6 cores. Most people aren't like, "LOL! I want to waste between 3k USD and 10k USD on a Mac for shits and giggles!" A 2P Mac Pro will eat most machines alive as far as CPU power as well. You make it sound like Xeon processors are cheap as well.

Easy Rhino · Feb 13, 2013, 01:18 PM

well i think my work here is done. i guess i probably confuse a lot of people and they think i am trolling. after all, i prefer linux as a desktop OS, i really like mac products, and i need a windows rig for gaming. people like me do exist.

TheMailMan78 · Feb 13, 2013, 01:20 PM

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no, how exactly did you configure it? because if you look at the mid-range Dell it is $2000 WITHOUT THE SERVICE AGREEMENT.

FYI AppleCare is invalid in a lot of states.

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Feb 13, 2013, 07:18 AM	#113
buildzoid Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 74 (0.36/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 13 Posts	the Mac pros suck they use cheap AMD GPUs with processors selling 2x the true price like seriously a max speced custom LGA2011 system will destroy (gaming also) it and cost less 9k$ vs 8k$

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