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Old Feb 18, 2013, 04:56 AM   #1
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New Radeon HD 7000 Series Products in 1H-2013

Over the last weekend, AMD hosted a teleconference with the press in which it charted out its strategy for 2013. Older reports led us to believe that the company's next-generation GPU lineup won't launch any time before Q4, but the press overlooked another possibility, that AMD could make additions to its existing HD 7000 series product family, before Q4.

The current Radeon HD 7000 appears "complete," due to the fact that there are products covering nearly every competitive price point. With the introduction of the GeForce GTX Titan, NVIDIA could gain two products in the price-range of $900-$1200, the other being GTX 690. AMD's various board partners, lead by TUL-affiliated ones, and HIS, launched the HD 7990 around the $800 mark, and ASUS topped things up with the Republic of Gamers ARES II at an unreal $1,600 point, which AMD claims is the fastest graphics card money can buy.

AMD will adopt a three-pronged approach to the first three quarters of 2013:
  • Market its existing performance-thru-extreme products with the Never Settle Reloaded game bundle that ships graphics cards with two to eight recently-launched AAA game titles, including Crysis 3, Far Cry 3, Bioshock Infinite, Tomb Raider 2013, and DmC Devil May Cry
  • Keep working on performance improvements on existing products with driver updates. New WHQL-signed drivers are release on a monthly to bi-monthly basis, with multiple beta releases in between
  • Make "robust roadmap additions to the existing Radeon HD 7000 lineup" within the first half of 2013 (by the end of June).

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I like this since I can't afford the Titan; I might get two 7970 instead.
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"robust roadmap additions to the existing Radeon HD 7000 lineup"

Enter the Radeon HD7750 Ghz Edition and 7850 Ghz Edition

Joking aside, maybe they will use their real GPU dynamic overclocking technology they've been working on to the existing HD7000 SKUs.
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I like this since I can't afford the Titan; I might get two 7970 instead.
i got my 7950 for around $200 new off newegg, sold the 3 free games, and after rebate it was already $260... so yeah around $200 after all said and done, and I oc'ed to 1200/1500 stable, beats out a gtx 680

not bad for $200
^ why AMD wins
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Keep working on performance improvements on existing products with driver updates. New WHQL-signed drivers are release on a monthly to bi-monthly basis, with multiple beta releases in between
Hopefully they can pull this off so people stop saying their drivers sucks
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What's AMD's strategy then? New cards and/or price drops? I desperately want a new GPU (HD 7970), but I'd rather it not be 1) outdated and 2) have the price drop a month after I buy it.
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Hopefully they can pull this off so people stop saying their drivers sucks
Have you tried 13.1 or 13.2 beta?
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Maybe a 7790 or 7830 finally. Who knows.
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Hopefully they can pull this off so people stop saying their drivers sucks
One of the reason why hey are probably doing this is due to the driver complaints increase since the 7xxx series.

I do believe there are significant improvements to be done to the drivers yet.
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Maybe a 7790 or 7830 finally. Who knows.
7830 would be great.
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i got my 7950 for around $200 new off newegg, sold the 3 free games, and after rebate it was already $260... so yeah around $200 after all said and done, and I oc'ed to 1200/1500 stable, beats out a gtx 680

not bad for $200
^ why AMD wins
how freaking thick can you be? 7950 has trouble even beating the gtx 660ti, why are you comparing an OC'd card to a non-OC'd card, whats preventing the same person from OCing a gtx 680, or even a gtx 660 ti to beat the crap out of your worthless 7950?? do us all a favor and think before you post, stop embarrassing yourself.
FYI 660ti is faster and same price as the 7950.

PS. oh, and good luck with your worthless AMD drivers. ^why Nvidia wins
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how freaking thick can you be? 7950 has trouble even beating the gtx 660ti, why are you comparing an OC'd card to a non-OC'd card, whats preventing the same person from OCing a gtx 680, or even a gtx 660 ti to beat the crap out of your worthless 7950?? do us all a favor and think before you post, stop embarrassing yourself.
FYI 660ti is faster and same price as the 7950.

PS. oh, and good luck with your worthless AMD drivers. ^why Nvidia wins
Lmfao who let 12yr old fanboys on this site?
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how freaking thick can you be? 7950 has trouble even beating the gtx 660ti, why are you comparing an OC'd card to a non-OC'd card, whats preventing the same person from OCing a gtx 680, or even a gtx 660 ti to beat the crap out of your worthless 7950?? do us all a favor and think before you post, stop embarrassing yourself.
FYI 660ti is faster and same price as the 7950.

PS. oh, and good luck with your worthless AMD drivers. ^why Nvidia wins
Sad to see fanboys like you still exist. But anyway, not going to say the standard things again for the 7950 vs 670, won't change anything for you...

On the other hand, the enthusiasm about the oc'ed 7950 being faster than the stock gtx680
is simply to point out the capabilities of this $200 card against a stock gtx680. He could have said HD7970 instead, would've been the same...
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This forum should be PR21+ . To many immature posts lately...
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PS. oh, and good luck with your worthless AMD drivers. ^why Nvidia wins
My drivers have been working perfectly fine, thank you. I bet you that I don't upgrade them nearly as often as you do with your nVidia drivers either. They both work just fine. Get off your high horse and tone it down.

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Sad to see fanboys like you still exist.
I don't condone the name calling, but I would say stick with ignorant and uninformed.
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I don't condone the name calling, but I would say stick with ignorant and uninformed.
yeah thats a better description.
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Why is there always the occasional fail troll who loves nVidia and they go overboard with trashing AMD.

Very rare I hear the same sort of trash talk from AMD fanboys on such a juvenile scale.

Anyway I want to see a 7777 GPU.
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Very rare I hear the same sort of trash talk from AMD fanboys on such a juvenile scale.
I must have been looking in all the wrong places, I can't really think of a major brand I've not recently seen ignorant posts in support of.

That said, to put forward a sensible argument in place of the troll AMD-bashing, I'm still unconvinced regarding the microstuttering thing and AMD's drivers (see Techreport).
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I must have been looking in all the wrong places, I can't really think of a major brand I've not recently seen ignorant posts in support of.

That said, to put forward a sensible argument in place of the troll AMD-bashing, I'm still unconvinced regarding the microstuttering thing and AMD's drivers (see Techreport).
Dunno man, i've really tried to see about frametime on my 7970 and there is absolutely no "rediculously bad" issue. Specifically Skyrim (which is the game they compared) with almost 3GB vRAM loaded due to mods is rock stable in performace: FPS never drops too low and frametime is stable at 17-19ms with RARE spikes going at 50-100ms (on an hour's average I'd say 2 or 3 spikes per 5 mins). That's all.

I strongly believe that the issue described in Techreport is a problem of the BOOST edition cards with their stupid badly designed system just to have something similar to nVidia's offering.
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I strongly believe that the issue described in Techreport is a problem of the BOOST edition cards with their stupid badly designed system just to have something similar to nVidia's offering.
That's interesting. Hopefully someone will test that in the fullness of time.
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I like this since I can't afford the Titan; I might get two 7970 instead.
Ooh, you can buy my two watercooled cards. If i get a Titan I'll be selling them on the B/S/T forum.

If i could find my post from 2011/12 I stated way back then I wanted a 'daddy' kepler but it never got made. So i got one then two 7970's which are quite frankly overkill even at 2560x1440.

It's for that reason AMD have no need to release again. Likewise, Titan is being released for Kudos and for the symbolic performance crown. Nvidia can tinker with gk104 some more and AMD can tweak drivers. Nobody loses.
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Why don't AMD come out with an official 7990?
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Why don't AMD come out with an official 7990?
Why bother when the AIB are already making them? Come up with an official 7990 and within a matter of weeks someone is going to make an "upgraded" version of it anyway.
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