Best AGP Card

masterxxx · Nov 14, 2006, 06:01 AM

FOR A GIGABYTE K8U-939 F5
i need a new card soon for vista upgrade
any suggestions

JC316 · Nov 14, 2006, 06:17 AM

Well, when the X1950 Pro AGP comes out, it should be the best. Right now the 7800GS is the best.

InfDamarvel · Nov 14, 2006, 06:32 AM

Gainward 7800GS+ to be exact.
Plain old 7800GS actually loses to the X850XT stock.

Id advise to wait for the 1950pro agp 256mb or 512mb

DanTheBanjoman · Nov 14, 2006, 06:52 AM

The above options should be the best yes. However I wouldn't ugprade to Vista the minute it's released. Wait for the world to find the major issues first.

JC316 · Nov 14, 2006, 07:26 AM

I agree with Dan 100%. M$ has yet to release a bug free windows. Wait a few months to find out where the security flaws are and the major bugs and m$ will release a service pack, then get vista.

DanTheBanjoman · Nov 14, 2006, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC316

I agree with Dan 100%. M$ has yet to release a bug free windows. Wait a few months to find out where the security flaws are and the major bugs and m$ will release a service pack, then get vista.

There yet has to be a bug free OS. It's not just Windows that's full of bugs, basically all OSes are.

tigger · Nov 14, 2006, 09:11 AM

i saw an article a few years ago and they tested xp and linux to see approximatly how many bugs there were in them and xp pro had about 5000 errors per million lines,linux had about 600.

i dont know if its true or not.

Batou1986 · Nov 14, 2006, 09:36 AM

if you plan on ditching the agp soon for dx10 just get an x850xt damn good speed and pretty cheap i play 2142 at 1280x1024 all settings maxed with no dynamic anything 2xaa full AF and 100% view distance at 50-70 fps

DanTheBanjoman · Nov 14, 2006, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigger69

i saw an article a few years ago and they tested xp and linux to see approximatly how many bugs there were in them and xp pro had about 5000 errors per million lines,linux had about 600.

i dont know if its true or not.

Yes, they really bothered to find all bugs in both Linux and Windows because they had so much spare time and knowledge and since MS gave them access to the sourcecode, sure why not. Those numbers can't be backed up.

Perhaps Windows does have more bugs, however the fact remains that Windows is the most targetted OS by hackers and therefor most bugs will be exploited on Windows which makes it look worse than Linux.

Then again this is totally off topic and just a big can of flamebait, lets not start another Linux/Windows discussion

masterxxx · Nov 14, 2006, 08:58 PM

thanks alot gutys you have given me alot to research and discuss truth be told i just want to play more games and run adobe alot better than i do now
thank you all

tkpenalty · Nov 15, 2006, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterxxx

thanks alot gutys you have given me alot to research and discuss truth be told i just want to play more games and run adobe alot better than i do now
thank you all

Buy something cheap for now, wait and see if Nvida/ATI make new AGP GPUs, look, AGP slot isn't that crap anyway, wait until they plan to make DX10 AGP GPUs...

DAMN INTEL!!! LETS HOPE THEY MAKE PCI-E 2.0 AGP COMPATIBLE.

EDIT: X1950, its god damn fast.

DanTheBanjoman · Nov 15, 2006, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkpenalty

Buy something cheap for now, wait and see if Nvida/ATI make new AGP GPUs, look, AGP slot isn't that crap anyway, wait until they plan to make DX10 AGP GPUs...

DAMN INTEL!!! LETS HOPE THEY MAKE PCI-E 2.0 AGP COMPATIBLE.

EDIT: X1950, its god damn fast.

It's not like Intel made PCI-E. Plus AGP can't be PCI-E compatible.

ARTOSOFT · Nov 15, 2006, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkpenalty

DAMN INTEL!!! LETS HOPE THEY MAKE PCI-E 2.0 AGP COMPATIBLE.

The AGP and PCI-e slot is hardware different. How can be compatible?

Regards,
Arto.

tkpenalty · Nov 15, 2006, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARTOSOFT

The AGP and PCI-e slot is hardware different. How can be compatible?

Regards,
Arto.

Bah... i mean in the new PCI-E they should make AGP and PCI-E use one universal slot, as in PCI-E 2.0 supporting AGP.

Munkul · Nov 15, 2006, 10:18 AM

the technology is so different that it would be difficult and costly. the current gen cards have pci-e graphics chips, and if you want them in agp then you need a bridge chip.

Pinchy · Nov 15, 2006, 10:45 AM

PCI-e will soon do to AGP what AGP did to PCI

sodacy · Nov 15, 2006, 12:07 PM

Any of you know if a Celeron D 320 could bottleneck a 7600GT AGP?

DanTheBanjoman · Nov 15, 2006, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinchy

PCI-e will soon do to AGP what AGP did to PCI

AGP (Accelerated Graphics Port) is video only, it only gave the videocard a new place. It did NOT replace PCI at all. PCI-E is replacing PCI, PCI-X and AGP all at once now though.

Also a universal slot is pointless, backwards compatibility is a huge problem in computers. It is very limiting.

Intel did/does have a solution to this, Itanium. From the ground up 64 bit platform without all the limitation backwards compatibility brings. Intel tried but in a way tke would put it: "DAMN MARKET!!! I HOPE THEY ACCEPT A DECENT PLATFORM SOME DAY"

EFI is the next best thing though. I hope that gets accepted soon, Apple already uses it.

gR3iF · Nov 15, 2006, 12:58 PM

a celeron in games is much slower then a normal intel cpu
although a 76gt should be fine with it

lemonadesoda · Nov 15, 2006, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sodacy

Any of you know if a Celeron D 320 could bottleneck a 7600GT AGP?

Go to ebay and get a better CPU that WILL bottlenect the 7600GT. You'll enjoy your new ride.

Agility · Nov 16, 2006, 09:20 AM

Just get a X2 AMD Athlon 4200+ 939pin and a X1950PRO AGP.

Zubasa · Nov 16, 2006, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agility

Just get a X2 AMD Athlon 3800+ 939pin and a X1950PRO AGP.

It is absolutely impossible to get s939 Athlon at all except 3000+ single core

(At lease where I live it is. Well... Opteron........)

Agility · Nov 16, 2006, 09:36 AM

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...E13076,00.html

Look at here -_-

OMG They just updated it >.> There was a 3800 939-pin 1minute ago.

Nov 14, 2006, 06:01 AM	#1
masterxxx Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Best AGP Card FOR A GIGABYTE K8U-939 F5 i need a new card soon for vista upgrade any suggestions

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Nov 14, 2006, 07:26 AM	#5
JC316 Knows what makes you tick Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DFW/ Texas Posts: 6,047 (2.26/day) Thanks: 714 Thanked 912 Times in 696 Posts System Specs	I agree with Dan 100%. M$ has yet to release a bug free windows. Wait a few months to find out where the security flaws are and the major bugs and m$ will release a service pack, then get vista. __________________ Core 2 Duo Overclocking guide Athlon 64 overclocking guide “If I were to do this, it'd be my luck that the door would rip off the hinges, burst into flames, and rape my face with fiery hot death.” -El Fiendo

Nov 14, 2006, 06:32 AM	#3
InfDamarvel Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 461 (0.19/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Gainward 7800GS+ to be exact. Plain old 7800GS actually loses to the X850XT stock. Id advise to wait for the 1950pro agp 256mb or 512mb

Nov 14, 2006, 06:52 AM	#4
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masterxxx Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks alot gutys you have given me alot to research and discuss truth be told i just want to play more games and run adobe alot better than i do now thank you all

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sodacy Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 9 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Any of you know if a Celeron D 320 could bottleneck a 7600GT AGP?

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Nov 16, 2006, 09:36 AM	#23
Agility Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,382 (0.48/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 45 Times in 44 Posts System Specs	http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...E13076,00.html Look at here -_- OMG They just updated it >.> There was a 3800 939-pin 1minute ago. __________________ “If you don't like the 2900, that's fine, but quit coming into every 2900 thread you see, just to downtalk it. That's called trolling.”

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