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Old Nov 26, 2006, 10:19 PM   #1
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Can't log on to windows

Basically every time i start my session windows terminates it without even getting to the desktop.

I can only come here trough security mode, I've tried a system restore but didn't work,

This happens after i made a Sciencemark 2 run and disabled some services but only the AV services so i'm really confused here

Any help is appreciated.

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Old Nov 26, 2006, 10:39 PM   #2
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Come on, i don't want to format

I'm running a virus scan and a spyware scan now let's see if that' it....

And pardon me if i'm being impatient
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Old Nov 26, 2006, 10:41 PM   #3
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cant you go into safe mode and reset the services or something.i wish i could help you but i'm not really a windows guru,i think you need alecstarr.
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Old Nov 26, 2006, 10:43 PM   #4
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Thanks tigger i can only log on in safe mode that's how i'm posting right now.

That's why i'm asking, i'm a newb to this stuff

And Alec isn't here
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can you do a restore to an earlier point with system restore?
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Old Nov 26, 2006, 10:52 PM   #6
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My anti-spyware found this suspicious file "drvinst64.exe" let's see if that was it...
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cant you go into safe mode and reset the services or something.i wish i could help you but i'm not really a windows guru,i think you need alecstarr.
I already have but didn't work
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Old Nov 26, 2006, 10:57 PM   #8
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i'm sorry m8,i'm all out of ideas.
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Old Nov 26, 2006, 10:59 PM   #9
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My anti-spyware found this suspicious file "drvinst64.exe" let's see if that was it...
Nop the problem persists

Thanks anyway tigger intention is what matters most
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try to reload windows....now you dont have to reformat or loose your files in doing this...as u set up to install windows your pc will first look to see if windows is installed, it will find it and ask what you want to do...you want to reinstall/repair..this will reinstall all needed files for windows to work, but it will start back up with default settings....your files should be ok tho...

i only offer this as a last resort...good luck to ya...
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Old Nov 26, 2006, 11:03 PM   #11
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'I can only come here trough security mode?'

Erm, did , you mean safe mode by that?

Try uninstalling the AV proggy that the services were related to. Also try a registry patch to restore default system services, because maybe you made some mistake in picking the ones to disable there.

Hopefully you won't be doing a repair install off the CD, but if you need to backup files, that might be the best option before a full reinstall - repaired OS installs are slower then base one.
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repaired OS installs are slower then base one.
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Also try a registry patch to restore default system services, because maybe you made some mistake in picking the ones to disable there.
Erm... sorry for my newbshiness but how do i do that?

Back there yeah i meant Safe mode

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Sites with services tweak guides used to carry those sort of register files.

You might try http://www.clean-xp.net/ 'cause it seems to do something along those lines.

It's a bit hard to actually recommend how to do that, 'cause I don't know if you'll end up pointing your bootloader at x: drive or deleting your password hashes or something by running some dodgy third party file
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Alec§star is back

Please man come here and help me out

PS-> i hope you had a good thanksgiving Alec
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This windows "thing" is making me

Damn f*ck it I'll just format and reinstall as soon as i get from school tomorrow...
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Sorry for delay first of all, & missing this thread period - I was not online for nearly a week, due to holiday travels/vacation:

Secondly - Humor me, & READ THIS CLOSELY + pay attention to its details (we are going to go @ this from the 'basics', onwards):

1.) Turn the services you disabled ON again... whatever ones those are, first. You mentioned doing that above.

2.) THEN, get out MSConfig & run it...

(Leave MsConfig's services sections ALONE above all else @ this point - by that I mean, do NOT disable services now, & re-enable ANY you turned off, again, since you mention having done that above...)

3.) LASTLY, when the above 2 are done? Then, go after ANY of the registry "RUN" & startup group areas possible!

(I am NOT sure if MsConfig covers ALL of them possible is why I state that, & if you look @ the lists below? It may not, but I am FAIRLY SURE the list below IS absolutely comprehensive!)

* For your reference, for using regedit.exe, to prune the registry "RUN" areas, they are as follows:

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<Prior to Logon Prompt>

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServicesOnce

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunServices

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<Logon Prompt>

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\RunOnce

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Run

StartUp Folders (BOTH the COMMON TO ALL USERS type & CURRENT USER only folder type)

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\RunOnce

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<SPECIAL STARTUP POSSIBLE AREAS NOT LISTED ABOVE>

A.) Explorer.exe app launching (not a lot of folks know this one)

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon]
"Shell"="Explorer.exe EXAMPLE OF A MALICIOUS SPYWAREMALWARE STARTED BY EXPLORER.exe"

(This last one above, with the SHELL line? It is an example of apps that can be 'kicked off' by EXPLORER.EXE itself as it starts... it IS a possibility & an area spyware/malware CAN hide in - ALL THAT SHOULD BE THERE IS EXPLORER.EXE & NO OTHER APPNAMES AFTER THAT!)

B.) There is also an area in the registry that has an entry called UserInit.exe that can also startup apps & scripts also EDIT PART - It IS the same as the last area (winlogon) that I noted above:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

PAY ATTENTION TO THE USERINIT VALUE for this one!

C.) Also, be aware that C:\autoexec.bat can be parsed as well during startups, & may contain launch of program information, plus on networks logon scripts can do the same & are often housed in .bat or .cmd files...

D.) It may be in the System.INI OR Win.INI files in the Windows section in a Run= or
Load= lines they may have (win.ini only iirc but check both anyhow), but doubtful... still, do LOOK there as well, IF this is a spyware/malware thing!

APK

P.S.=> A good antivirus & antispyware scan cannot hurt (make SURE both have their "signatures" updated current) as well!

Now, I am not "110% absolutely sure" if you can run many of these WITHOUT being in "normal mode"... resident scanning I am fairly certain you can't, but manual scans MAY be possible (especially w/ antivir programs, antispyware progs SHOULD run in safe or normal mode no problem)... apk

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Please man come here and help me out

PS-> i hope you had a good thanksgiving Alec
I finally made it in here, & that is the procedure I would use above... it is a LOT to look @, so have at it & good luck!



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P.S.=> I did have an excellent vacation! Thank you... apk
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Thank you all people for trying to help

I did everything in your guide Alec but still not working

I'll format and reinstall windows, it's ok i only have 25GB of stuff stored and it's all backed up
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Thank you all people for trying to help
It's "good review" & on a 'tricky' subject, what w/ all the "malware" & virus' out there
nowadays... good problem's to try to solve.

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I did everything in your guide Alec but still not working
Ah, too bad... whatever's "got you" there? Has got you but good... sorry it did not work out for you man.

It makes sense to look @ those areas, but it doesn't ALWAYS solve things... especially w/ virus' like W32Pinfi (couldn't fix that years ago for my nephew, the damn thing's astounding)... & ones that infect your .exe's on your disk & AntiVirus' + removal tools can't "pull them" either!

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I'll format and reinstall windows, it's ok i only have 25GB of stuff stored and it's all backed up
Ah, I love it - a guy that believes in & does regular backups... you'll never be in trouble because of that, not really!



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