School Project - Page 5

ex_reven · Dec 25, 2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Random Murderer

it depends on the efficiency of the unit. less efficient units lose some of the power brought in from the wall as heat energy.

good point, good science

so what we are saying is that the thermal condition of the psu will affect the case design

so if PT was to be designing a cheapy elcheapo brand case the location would be different...depends on the specs i guess...interesting concept all the same

pt · Dec 25, 2006, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ex_reven

good point, good science

so what we are saying is that the thermal condition of the psu will affect the case design

so if PT was to be designing a cheapy elcheapo brand case the location would be different...depends on the specs i guess...interesting concept all the same

if you buy a lian li (wich costs a lot) you aren't going to buy a cheapo psu right?

Dec 25, 2006, 01:06 PM

The whole point of having the PSU on the bottom is to keep the PSU cool! By doing that it will supply more stable rails to the components of the PC, and inherent stability will therefore increase. Think like a physicist and a logician, not in one dimension...

Yin · Dec 25, 2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ex_reven

Possibly true, but i always thought of the cpu/gpu as a component that only applied heat to a heatsink, after which the heat was removed via fan...meaning that the heat is concentrated in one central location (with the right fans/airflow setup)...but that the psu RADIATES heat through the case, heating the air directly, especially due to its large surface area.

Wouldnt the psu be the hottest anyway? the only reason a part gets hot is because of the voltage applied to it. Seeing to as the psu supplies ALL this voltage to afformentioned components, i dont see why the PSU wouldnt be the hottest component in a system.

EDIT - Im not totally sure of this...just throwing my own ideas/opinion around, Alecstar could give us some physics information on this if needed

I did physic in school too, I came like 26th out of 12

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Originally Posted by Random Murderer

it depends on the efficiency of the unit. less efficient units lose some of the power brought in from the wall as heat energy.

ahh this man looks like he knows what hes on about. Yeah the more efficiency the psu is the better and less heat but in some cases where the computer doesnt require much, it wont get hot either. Some psu's fan adjusts it self to the temperature, but I still think the cpu and gpu is the hottest parts.

neways back to the main point of this threat, why dont you just grab a mb tray from a old case like tear it apart, thats what i did, much easier.

pt · Dec 26, 2006, 09:00 PM

no more suggestions, i will probabily do some drawing tomorrow (on old school paper)

tkpenalty · Dec 26, 2006, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pt

no more suggestions, i will probabily do some drawing tomorrow (on old school paper)

Please an original design; it will score you more marks.

pt · Dec 26, 2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpenalty

Please an original design; it will score you more marks.

ok, i will try

ex_reven · Dec 26, 2006, 11:03 PM

To design the case, you must become the case...

Carcenomy · Dec 27, 2006, 12:56 PM

1 - Seperation of peripheral components from the core interior.
2 - Aluminium.
3 - Preferably anodized blue aluminium, perhaps with a multilayered finish.
4 - SuperATX.
5 - None really, I build my own.

Besides the aluminium bit, that's what I've done with my case - the worklog is on Mashie's forum. Works a treat.

And the PSU thing... I was under the impression that PSUs were top mounted to add to airflow, and that was part of the ATX design standard. But each to their own.

Frogger · Dec 27, 2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pt

no more suggestions, i will probabily do some drawing tomorrow (on old school paper)

have fun ....

F

pt · Jan 2, 2007, 09:37 PM

what do you think of a micro itx case?

Frogger · Jan 3, 2007, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pt

no more suggestions, i will probabily do some drawing tomorrow (on old school paper)

I thought you were drawing already???

pt · Jan 3, 2007, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Frogger

I thought you were drawing already???

other works got in the way

Frogger · Jan 3, 2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pt

other works got in the way

you mean these works "Posts: 3,776 (12.66/day)"

AsphyxiA · Jan 3, 2007, 05:51 PM

1 - what a case should be for you?
Stripped, two hard drive bays and one optical bay. Dual 120mm fans up front, one in rear, 80mm blow hole 120mm side. Inverted ATX because it looks cooler and provides better air flow for your processor.

2 - prefered materials?
Full body aluminum. Maybe plexi glass for the window so people could see your hardware. I mean common you have to back up your bragging rights.

3 - prefered colors?
Brushed Anodized Black. No gloss looks real really good and protects the aluminum from corrosion

4 - prefered size?
Mid tower. if you are like me in anyway, i like to show off my hardware at LAN parties so carrying a big ass server tower around just dosen't cut it. This case has GREAT dimensions, but the again it is Lian-Li. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112099

tkpenalty · Jan 7, 2007, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pt

other works got in the way

U doing it yet?

pt · Jan 7, 2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpenalty

U doing it yet?

nop, lately the flu and headaches got me

i can go to school and post some stuff, but i'm not on the mood to draw

tkpenalty · Jan 7, 2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pt

nop, lately the flu and headaches got me

i can go to school and post some stuff, but i'm not on the mood to draw

Sure... more like post whoring

Make an inverted ATX

pt · Jan 7, 2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tkpenalty

Sure... more like post whoring

Make an inverted ATX

what about a inverted micro-btx

(not much boards like that, nvm)
i will draw somestuff on my way to school tomorrow, i have some ideas in my head

pt · Jan 10, 2007, 11:02 PM

what about this one?

Random Murderer · Jan 11, 2007, 12:10 AM

looks like it'll hide wires well

AsphyxiA · Jan 11, 2007, 03:21 AM

i could totally see that, try using the google sketch program and post some more 3D pics for us

pt · Jan 12, 2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AsphyxiA

i could totally see that, try using the google sketch program and post some more 3D pics for us

doing it now

pt · Jan 12, 2007, 12:37 PM

a quick thing since i'm doinf another school work

pt · Jan 12, 2007, 12:44 PM

size is:
384x200x254

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Processor:	AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 (Trinidad)
Motherboard:	ASUS F3Ka (ATI RS690M)
Cooling:	stock
Memory:	Nanya 2x1GB ddr2 667@5-5-5-15-2T
Video Card:	ATI Mobility Radeon HD2600 512MB DDR2@ 580mhz/486mhz
Hard Disk:	160GB on laptop+250GB external
Optical Drive:	DVD RW
CRT/LCD Model:	ASUS 15.4
Case:	Asus Laptop F3Ka chassis
Sound Card:	on-board
PSU:	1:30minutes battery
Software:	"genui xp", 'cause i hated vista

Processor:	AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile TL-60 (Trinidad)
Motherboard:	ASUS F3Ka (ATI RS690M)
Cooling:	stock
Memory:	Nanya 2x1GB ddr2 667@5-5-5-15-2T
Video Card:	ATI Mobility Radeon HD2600 512MB DDR2@ 580mhz/486mhz
Hard Disk:	160GB on laptop+250GB external
Optical Drive:	DVD RW
CRT/LCD Model:	ASUS 15.4
Case:	Asus Laptop F3Ka chassis
Sound Card:	on-board
PSU:	1:30minutes battery
Software:	"genui xp", 'cause i hated vista

Dec 25, 2006, 01:06 PM	#103
v-zero Guest Posts: n/a (0/day)	The whole point of having the PSU on the bottom is to keep the PSU cool! By doing that it will supply more stable rails to the components of the PC, and inherent stability will therefore increase. Think like a physicist and a logician, not in one dimension...

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AsphyxiA Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 559 (0.20/day) Thanks: 57 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	1 - what a case should be for you? Stripped, two hard drive bays and one optical bay. Dual 120mm fans up front, one in rear, 80mm blow hole 120mm side. Inverted ATX because it looks cooler and provides better air flow for your processor. 2 - prefered materials? Full body aluminum. Maybe plexi glass for the window so people could see your hardware. I mean common you have to back up your bragging rights. 3 - prefered colors? Brushed Anodized Black. No gloss looks real really good and protects the aluminum from corrosion 4 - prefered size? Mid tower. if you are like me in anyway, i like to show off my hardware at LAN parties so carrying a big ass server tower around just dosen't cut it. This case has GREAT dimensions, but the again it is Lian-Li. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112099 __________________ Lenovo U410 Core i3 8 GB of RAM 64GB SSD + 1TB HDD nVidia 610m OC -1.2Ghz when plugged in. killer n-1202 wifi

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