All drives created equal? confused, please help.

Tearathal · Jan 16, 2007, 10:35 PM

This is my first computer build, and I am to the point where I have to insert my optical drive into the external 5.25 drive bay.

Now, I decided I would just use the drive from my 3 year old Dell. So I mounted the brackets onto the sides of the drive, and now when I go to slide the drive into the drive bay, It won't fit, and judging by how easily it fit into the dell case, I'm confused as to how I am going to get this thing in. Are all drives made the same size, or am I doing something wrong ?

Case
http://www.amazon.com/Antec-P160W-An...KG?ref=prid-20

tigger · Jan 16, 2007, 10:46 PM

welcome to tpu

all 5.25" drives are the same size.do you need the rails for the p160 then? was they used in the dell?

PVTCaboose1337 · Jan 16, 2007, 10:49 PM

Don't use the rails from the dell case. They are attached onto the side. Take them off by gently prying with a screwdriver. These are what dell does to lock the drives in place.

Tearathal · Jan 16, 2007, 11:10 PM

The P160 came with its own rails, and with the P160's railes mounted onto the Dell's drives I can't seem to get it to go in

PVTCaboose1337 · Jan 16, 2007, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tearathal

The P160 came with its own rails, and with the P160's railes mounted onto the Dell's drives I can't seem to get it to go in

Then you are doing something wrong...

Tearathal · Jan 16, 2007, 11:21 PM

haha, I see, Ive done this before on my Dell to change drives and it was quick and simple, Ill just take my time and try again

One more thing, I did a test boot before and didnt hear any "case speaker beeps" and realized that the tiny little speaker pins arent plugged in, but I searched my case and can't find anything that would plug into them either heh

Snake05 · Jan 16, 2007, 11:48 PM

What case do you have? I imagine it's possible that it doesn't have one, most do though, they're probably just hiding.

WarEagleAU · Jan 16, 2007, 11:51 PM

The mobo should have a plug in on it for the case speaker, Im assuming thats what you are referring to?

Tearathal · Jan 16, 2007, 11:51 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-P160W-An...KG?ref=prid-20

Tearathal · Jan 16, 2007, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarEagleAU

The mobo should have a plug in on it for the case speaker, Im assuming thats what you are referring to?

I see the 4 orange color coded pins on the mobo, but I cant find the matching plugs from the front display plate

WarEagleAU · Jan 16, 2007, 11:56 PM

Thats a nice case, almost looks like the superlanboy in a weird way.

Tearathal · Jan 16, 2007, 11:59 PM

Why can't I get the damn drive to go in! lol

I took out my power supply to gain access to the drive bays, and when I try to slide my drive into one of the spots it wont fit! XD

bruins004 · Jan 17, 2007, 12:02 AM

Check to make sure Dell didnt put anything on the side of the drivers so it could fit their case.

Also, just an FYI, a friend of mine had a really old DVD drive (when they first came out).
He now has this drive in his new computer and it burn dual layer DVDs.
All he did was a firmware upgrade.
It seems the only difference between a new DVD Drive that can write Dual Layer and older ones that can't is the firmware.

Tearathal · Jan 17, 2007, 12:16 AM

I tried insereting this damn drive hundreds of times lol no dice.

I'm pretty sure I have the rails mounted correctly, then I try to push it into the drive bays from the big opening in the back and it wont go in

Tearathal · Jan 17, 2007, 01:13 AM

This shouldn't be this hard lol

Mediocre · Jan 17, 2007, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarEagleAU

The mobo should have a plug in on it for the case speaker, Im assuming thats what you are referring to?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tearathal

I see the 4 orange color coded pins on the mobo, but I cant find the matching plugs from the front display plate

Tearathal - All my BIOS speakers have come with my motherboards. So if this is a transplant from a Dell, you're gonna have to get the speaker out of the old case or get a new speaker.

As for you're 5.25" drive... Seems like you're going to have to give up the tool-less idea and get some screws. Those damn clips never line the drive up right anyway...

'Ocre

PVTCaboose1337 · Jan 17, 2007, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediocre

Tearathal - All my BIOS speakers have come with my motherboards. So if this is a transplant from a Dell, you're gonna have to get the speaker out of the old case or get a new speaker.

As for you're 5.25" drive... Seems like you're going to have to give up the tool-less idea and get some screws. Those damn clips never line the drive up right anyway...

'Ocre

Screws all the way. THE BEST WAY.

Tearathal · Jan 17, 2007, 01:34 AM

OK jesus, lol even without rails or screws I can't seem to fit the darn drive into the space where it is supposed to go. Frustrating

PVTCaboose1337 · Jan 17, 2007, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tearathal

OK jesus, lol even without rails or screws I can't seem to fit the darn drive into the space where it is supposed to go. Frustrating

Calm down, take a deep breath, and TAKE A PICTURE!!!

Tearathal · Jan 17, 2007, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

Calm down, take a deep breath, and TAKE A PICTURE!!!

hehe let me go get the camera, picture of drive alone, inside of bays, attempting to stick it into bays, sound good? XD

PVTCaboose1337 · Jan 17, 2007, 01:38 AM

Sounds good.

Tearathal · Jan 17, 2007, 01:59 AM

PVTCaboose1337 · Jan 17, 2007, 02:51 AM

Im looking right now... brb

PVTCaboose1337 · Jan 17, 2007, 02:53 AM

LOLz. Push them in from the front... make sure the metal protect on the case is removed too.

PVTCaboose1337 · Jan 17, 2007, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PVTCaboose1337

LOLz. Push them in from the front... make sure the metal protect on the case is removed too.

Yeah push them in from the front, THEN they will clip in effortlessly.

Jan 16, 2007, 10:35 PM	#1
Tearathal Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 113 (0.05/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	All drives created equal? confused, please help. This is my first computer build, and I am to the point where I have to insert my optical drive into the external 5.25 drive bay. Now, I decided I would just use the drive from my 3 year old Dell. So I mounted the brackets onto the sides of the drive, and now when I go to slide the drive into the drive bay, It won't fit, and judging by how easily it fit into the dell case, I'm confused as to how I am going to get this thing in. Are all drives made the same size, or am I doing something wrong ? Case http://www.amazon.com/Antec-P160W-An...KG?ref=prid-20

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Jan 16, 2007, 11:10 PM	#4
Tearathal Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 113 (0.05/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	The P160 came with its own rails, and with the P160's railes mounted onto the Dell's drives I can't seem to get it to go in

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Tearathal Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 113 (0.05/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	haha, I see, Ive done this before on my Dell to change drives and it was quick and simple, Ill just take my time and try again One more thing, I did a test boot before and didnt hear any "case speaker beeps" and realized that the tiny little speaker pins arent plugged in, but I searched my case and can't find anything that would plug into them either heh

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Tearathal Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 113 (0.05/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Why can't I get the damn drive to go in! lol I took out my power supply to gain access to the drive bays, and when I try to slide my drive into one of the spots it wont fit! XD

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Tearathal Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 113 (0.05/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	I tried insereting this damn drive hundreds of times lol no dice. I'm pretty sure I have the rails mounted correctly, then I try to push it into the drive bays from the big opening in the back and it wont go in

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Tearathal Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 113 (0.05/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	This shouldn't be this hard lol

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Jan 17, 2007, 01:34 AM	#18
Tearathal Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 113 (0.05/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	OK jesus, lol even without rails or screws I can't seem to fit the darn drive into the space where it is supposed to go. Frustrating

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PVTCaboose1337 Graphical Hacker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 7,478 (2.77/day) Thanks: 798 Thanked 1,174 Times in 834 Posts System Specs	LOLz. Push them in from the front... make sure the metal protect on the case is removed too. __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

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