I need an opinion..Saphire X800GTO or Saphire X1600XT??? QUICK!

khaos201 · Jan 19, 2007, 03:33 PM

I have x800GTO, but i can trade it for an 1600XT 256DDR3 ...
WHICH ONE IS BETTER?????????

quick

Thanks !!

Rurouni Strife · Jan 19, 2007, 04:01 PM

Depends. If your GTO is unlocked to the full 16 pipes and you dont play a lot of Shader Model 3 games, then you should probably stick to the GTO. It'll preform better in most games. However, If you play a lot of Shader Model 3 games and really want HDR, and it isn't unlocked, I would either sell it and buy a x1800 GTO (if you can find) or a x1900 gt. Though honestly, I'm not a big fan of the x1600 cards (x1650 is alright).

{Sniping}Waste · Jan 19, 2007, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khaos201

I have x800GTO, but i can trade it for an 1600XT 256DDR3 ...
WHICH ONE IS BETTER?????????

quick

Thanks !!

Whats you price range? I have seen X1900GT for around the $155 at newegg and even the same card referb for around $120.

khaos201 · Jan 19, 2007, 04:09 PM

i'm in romania dude :P here it's 250$ (x1900GT)

AND!! I HAVE 12 PIPES.... cant unlock... I PLAY BOTH SM 3 , SM2 games

BUT!!!!!!!! FOR EXAMPLE., Rainbow Six VEGAS doesnt work with x800GTO..

SO???????????????????? WHAT SHOULD I DO ??????

{Sniping}Waste · Jan 19, 2007, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khaos201

i'm in romania dude :P here it's 250$ (x1900GT)

AND!! I HAVE 12 PIPES.... cant unlock... I PLAY BOTH SM 3 , SM2 games

BUT!!!!!!!! FOR EXAMPLE., Rainbow Six VEGAS doesnt work with x800GTO..

SO???????????????????? WHAT SHOULD I DO ??????

Can you post the prices of the cards your looking at so we help you out a little more. Sorry I didn't know you lived in Romania and not the USA. Are you looking at PCI-E or AGP?

DaMulta · Jan 19, 2007, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khaos201

i'm in romania dude :P here it's 250$ (x1900GT)

AND!! I HAVE 12 PIPES.... cant unlock... I PLAY BOTH SM 3 , SM2 games

BUT!!!!!!!! FOR EXAMPLE., Rainbow Six VEGAS doesnt work with x800GTO..

SO???????????????????? WHAT SHOULD I DO ??????

I would go with the newer card.

xman2007 · Jan 19, 2007, 04:42 PM

i played rainbow sis vegas on my x1600pro so you will be able to play on a x1600xt with a cpl more fps, but dont expect to play it at max settings

error_f0rce · Jan 19, 2007, 04:48 PM

My advice: Stay away from SAPPHIRE... RMAing my X800GTO right now. Worked great for 8 months, then out of the blue one day pink artifacts all over my screen. Have since read of many other people having more problems with SAPPHIRE than other brands.

Personally? If you want an ATi card, stick to the ATi brand cards. Also heard good things about POWERCOLOR.

Kammster · Jan 19, 2007, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khaos201

i'm in romania dude :P here it's 250$ (x1900GT)

AND!! I HAVE 12 PIPES.... cant unlock... I PLAY BOTH SM 3 , SM2 games

BUT!!!!!!!! FOR EXAMPLE., Rainbow Six VEGAS doesnt work with x800GTO..

SO???????????????????? WHAT SHOULD I DO ??????

with only 12 pipes u might be better off in the long term with the x1600 Xt.
also the the 128 bit memory bus is going to limit your frames in high res.

i also have a saphhire x800 gto gives me problems. check the sapphire forums to see if people have problems with that model of x1600 xt.

PuMA · Jan 19, 2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by error_f0rce

My advice: Stay away from SAPPHIRE... RMAing my X800GTO right now. Worked great for 8 months, then out of the blue one day pink artifacts all over my screen. Have since read of many other people having more problems with SAPPHIRE than other brands.

Personally? If you want an ATi card, stick to the ATi brand cards. Also heard good things about POWERCOLOR.

I had the same thing with my club3d 6600gt, had to RMA it twice lol

The pc shop guy told me that club3d 6600gt line is fukked and they (club3d) didnt even have a card to sent me for 3 moths cuz every1 was Rma'ing they're 6600 gt's, wich BTW is a really nice card.

anyways I would go with 1600XT: newer card, new architecture, and SM 3.0

khaos201 · Jan 19, 2007, 08:06 PM

thx guys ...u were very helpfull !!!!

SO THE CONLUSION

NO MONEY, SIMPLY EXCHANGE ...X800GTO OR X1600XT?? I CAN PLAY GAMES WITH ANTIALIASING X6(OBLIVION...) ON MY X800GTO, BUT IT HAS 2.1 , AND THE ONLY ADVANTAGE IS THE 256BIT MEMORY BUS...IT'S GREAT, BUT IT'S LIMITED!

WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN IS THE GAMING PERFORMANCE ON X1600XT...I'VE HEARD IT SUCKS.... SOOOOOOOOO??

khaos201 · Jan 19, 2007, 08:12 PM

BY THE WAY... IN ROMANIA, THE PRICES ON ELECTRONICS ARE BIIIIIIGGGGGG...
IF A VIDEO CARD IS LIKE 150$ IN USA, HERE IS 250$ ( AND THE SALARY IS 160$/MONTH

)...AND SO ON!!

SOMEBODY SAID TO ME THAT HE WOULD GIVE ME A X1600XT FOR MY X800GTO..AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE ASKING U GUYS...

IF ANYONE HAS X1600XT AND CAN TELL ME THE GAMING PERFORMANCE , GREAT!!

I DONT KNOW ABOUT SAPHIRE A LOT, MAYBE THEY DO FRY AFTER A WILD...IF I COULD HAVE SOME CASH, I WOULD GET A 7900GT , OR A X1900GT, ETC...

Random Murderer · Jan 19, 2007, 08:19 PM

i have the exact x1600 you are talking about. its an expensive paperweight. you will definately have better performance from the x800. i had an x800xt, and when i got an x1600xt i was sorely disappointed.

khaos201 · Jan 19, 2007, 08:28 PM

THX MAN...BUT WHAT SPEEDS DO u HAVE ON THAT 1600XT??

so i should stick to the x800gto?? ok then ...

{Sniping}Waste · Jan 19, 2007, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khaos201

BY THE WAY... IN ROMANIA, THE PRICES ON ELECTRONICS ARE BIIIIIIGGGGGG...
IF A VIDEO CARD IS LIKE 150$ IN USA, HERE IS 250$ ( AND THE SALARY IS 160$/MONTH

)...AND SO ON!!

SOMEBODY SAID TO ME THAT HE WOULD GIVE ME A X1600XT FOR MY X800GTO..AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE ASKING U GUYS...

IF ANYONE HAS X1600XT AND CAN TELL ME THE GAMING PERFORMANCE , GREAT!!

I DONT KNOW ABOUT SAPHIRE A LOT, MAYBE THEY DO FRY AFTER A WILD...IF I COULD HAVE SOME CASH, I WOULD GET A 7900GT , OR A X1900GT, ETC...

The X800GTO has the raw power advantage compared to a X1600XT. The only advantage the X1600XT has over the X800GTO is SM3 and pixel shading power. I have both a X800GTO and a sapphire X1600XT engineering sample and in most cases the X800GTO is faster.

Random Murderer · Jan 19, 2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by khaos201

THX MAN...BUT WHAT SPEEDS DO u HAVE ON THAT 1600XT??

so i should stick to the x800gto?? ok then ...

i have it oc'd to 650 core and 750 memory

khaos201 · Jan 19, 2007, 08:42 PM

u have ddr3 right???? that means 650/1500.. AND U ARE NOT PLEASED WITH THAT???
any 3dmark scores??

damn ..must be a bad video card...

Random Murderer · Jan 19, 2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by khaos201

u have ddr3 right???? that means 650/1500.. AND U ARE NOT PLEASED WITH THAT???
any 3dmark scores??

damn ..must be a bad video card...

no, the speeds are fine, it is gddr3.

what really kills it is the fact that it only has 4 pixel pipelines and a 128 bit bus...

khaos201 · Jan 19, 2007, 09:16 PM

as far as i know it has 12 pixel pipeline...

Random Murderer · Jan 19, 2007, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by khaos201

as far as i know it has 12 pixel pipeline...

thats what everyone thinks.
thats even what newegg reports it as.
its really a 4 pipe card with 3 shaders per pipe... 4x3=12

if they would give the x1600xt 4 more pipes i bet it could compete with the best of them...

DaMulta · Jan 19, 2007, 09:24 PM

Its not that the x1600 is a bad card its just not as powerfull as the card you have. The thing is that its newer and can play these games that you can't play. It has HDR for one I messed up my x1600pro and went to a 800XT. The 800XT is faster but in ways I liked the x1600pro better.

khaos201 · Jan 19, 2007, 09:28 PM

thanks a lot guys!!...i'll make a decision...

Zubasa · Jan 20, 2007, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Random Murderer

thats what everyone thinks.
thats even what newegg reports it as.
its really a 4 pipe card with 3 shaders per pipe... 4x3=12

if they would give the x1600xt 4 more pipes i bet it could compete with the best of them...

That is the X1650XT

8x3=24

And by the way, the X1600XT is now the X1650Pro.

Random Murderer · Jan 20, 2007, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Zubasa

That is the X1650XT

8x3=24

And by the way, the X1600XT is now the X1650Pro.

really? hmmm. maybe they could make a 12 pipe 1600xt and call it a day.

Zubasa · Jan 20, 2007, 04:10 AM

Well...
That is how the X1K series works.
My X1950Pro is 12x3 = 36 Pixel Shaders

Jan 19, 2007, 03:33 PM	#1
khaos201 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 62 (0.03/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I need an opinion..Saphire X800GTO or Saphire X1600XT??? QUICK! I have x800GTO, but i can trade it for an 1600XT 256DDR3 ... WHICH ONE IS BETTER????????? quick Thanks !!

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Jan 19, 2007, 04:01 PM	#2
Rurouni Strife Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 121 (0.05/day) Thanks: 8 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Depends. If your GTO is unlocked to the full 16 pipes and you dont play a lot of Shader Model 3 games, then you should probably stick to the GTO. It'll preform better in most games. However, If you play a lot of Shader Model 3 games and really want HDR, and it isn't unlocked, I would either sell it and buy a x1800 GTO (if you can find) or a x1900 gt. Though honestly, I'm not a big fan of the x1600 cards (x1650 is alright).

Jan 19, 2007, 04:09 PM	#4
khaos201 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 62 (0.03/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i'm in romania dude :P here it's 250$ (x1900GT) AND!! I HAVE 12 PIPES.... cant unlock... I PLAY BOTH SM 3 , SM2 games BUT!!!!!!!! FOR EXAMPLE., Rainbow Six VEGAS doesnt work with x800GTO.. SO???????????????????? WHAT SHOULD I DO ??????

Jan 19, 2007, 04:48 PM	#8
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Jan 19, 2007, 08:06 PM	#11
khaos201 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 62 (0.03/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thx guys ...u were very helpfull !!!! SO THE CONLUSION NO MONEY, SIMPLY EXCHANGE ...X800GTO OR X1600XT?? I CAN PLAY GAMES WITH ANTIALIASING X6(OBLIVION...) ON MY X800GTO, BUT IT HAS 2.1 , AND THE ONLY ADVANTAGE IS THE 256BIT MEMORY BUS...IT'S GREAT, BUT IT'S LIMITED! WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN IS THE GAMING PERFORMANCE ON X1600XT...I'VE HEARD IT SUCKS.... SOOOOOOOOO??

Jan 19, 2007, 08:12 PM	#12
khaos201 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 62 (0.03/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	BY THE WAY... IN ROMANIA, THE PRICES ON ELECTRONICS ARE BIIIIIIGGGGGG... IF A VIDEO CARD IS LIKE 150$ IN USA, HERE IS 250$ ( AND THE SALARY IS 160$/MONTH )...AND SO ON!! SOMEBODY SAID TO ME THAT HE WOULD GIVE ME A X1600XT FOR MY X800GTO..AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE ASKING U GUYS... IF ANYONE HAS X1600XT AND CAN TELL ME THE GAMING PERFORMANCE , GREAT!! I DONT KNOW ABOUT SAPHIRE A LOT, MAYBE THEY DO FRY AFTER A WILD...IF I COULD HAVE SOME CASH, I WOULD GET A 7900GT , OR A X1900GT, ETC...

Jan 19, 2007, 08:19 PM	#13
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Jan 19, 2007, 08:28 PM	#14
khaos201 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 62 (0.03/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	THX MAN...BUT WHAT SPEEDS DO u HAVE ON THAT 1600XT?? so i should stick to the x800gto?? ok then ...

Jan 19, 2007, 08:42 PM	#17
khaos201 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 62 (0.03/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	u have ddr3 right???? that means 650/1500.. AND U ARE NOT PLEASED WITH THAT??? any 3dmark scores?? damn ..must be a bad video card...

Jan 19, 2007, 09:16 PM	#19
khaos201 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 62 (0.03/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	as far as i know it has 12 pixel pipeline...

Jan 19, 2007, 09:24 PM	#21
DaMulta My stars went supernova Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Oklahoma T-Town Posts: 10,337 (4.16/day) Thanks: 1,449 Thanked 1,477 Times in 1,113 Posts System Specs	Its not that the x1600 is a bad card its just not as powerfull as the card you have. The thing is that its newer and can play these games that you can't play. It has HDR for one I messed up my x1600pro and went to a 800XT. The 800XT is faster but in ways I liked the x1600pro better. __________________ ocLIT The Hardware Punishers

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khaos201 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 62 (0.03/day) Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks a lot guys!!...i'll make a decision...

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