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Old Jan 21, 2007, 12:11 PM   #26
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somethings when i used my 6200 and changed the drivers, i had to reinstall the game for the frames to change.

he said he didn't change the settings.
higher res and more effects the card might bootleneck , relieving the cpu

according to gamespot the difference in using an in oblivion
FX60 2ghz is 33fps at 1600x1200 max settings
FX60 2.6ghz is 40fps at 1600x1200 max settings
at 21% in game but a 30% increase in cpu


Geforce 7900 GTX SLI at max setting 1600*1200: 40fps.
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Old Jan 21, 2007, 12:45 PM   #27
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somethings when i used my 6200 and changed the drivers, i had to reinstall the game for the frames to change.

he said he didn't change the settings.
higher res and more effects the card might bootleneck , relieving the cpu

according to gamespot the difference in using an in oblivion
FX60 2ghz is 33fps at 1600x1200 max settings
FX60 2.6ghz is 40fps at 1600x1200 max settings
at 21% in game but a 30% increase in cpu


Geforce 7900 GTX SLI at max setting 1600*1200: 40fps.
Yeah, I hadn't thought of that. At lower settings, the gfx card isn't getting pushed, the cpu is carrying all the weight. If you raise the graphics settings, the gfx card will be able to do more work, and the cpu will be less of a factor. Even so, I still recommend overclocking. lol
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Old Jan 21, 2007, 12:52 PM   #28
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yep I can overclock it..but got no fancy cooling system or better fan for the CPU..only with the one it came with..dout its safe enough to do it
if its a 90nm cpu you should be able to hit ~2.5-2.6ghz just fine if its 130nm then ~2.4-2.5ghz on all stock cooling just remember to drop you HTT to 4X and @ 2.4ghz+ you should so ok on the gaming front and you can save up for a brisbane
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Old Jan 21, 2007, 01:09 PM   #29
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if its a 90nm cpu you should be able to hit ~2.5-2.6ghz just fine if its 130nm then ~2.4-2.5ghz on all stock cooling just remember to drop you HTT to 4X and @ 2.4ghz+ you should so ok on the gaming front and you can save up for a brisbane
Yep, and hopefully by then we'll have some better steppings on the Brisbanes. lol
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I think ill wait and buy a new mobo and cpu and ram..I think thats the ultimate choice
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Old Jan 21, 2007, 06:08 PM   #31
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its your CPU

like with my 800XL OC with my P4 OC i only got like 5800-5900 in 3dmark05 and with C2D oc i got 7127

can you OC it ?
no it's not his cpu.. cpu speed means little at high resolution.. at like 1280x1024 with like x4 anti aliasing and x16 anisotropic filtering the stress should be reliant of the gpu and cpu speed means little.. plus with dividers he could probley get cpu up to like 2.2 ghz. or more.
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Hey guys.

Ok um..I have bought the 8800GTS..with new PSU, OCZ 600WATT Game X Stream edition, and well..I tryed it out playing Medieval 2 Total war..I did not change any settings so I could see the performance increase.....and iam very dissappointed.
Before I got this card..I was using the X800GT 256mb, and was getting 22-25FPS average...with the GTS...iam only reaching 32-40FPS..not even double FPS increase??
Also..tryed oblivion...was getting average of 24-28FPS...now iam getting 33-40FPS...thats a terrible increase...fecking lag still!!!!

I have an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz...I think thats the problem..but is it? ive the latest drivers also for the card..97.92 I beleave.
anyone have any ideas?? I downloaded the latest DirectX drivers also..made no difference.

reformat..and install lastest drivers..then try...and turn up resolution to the max your moniter can get in game.. AA and AF levels lol
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Old Jan 21, 2007, 06:10 PM   #33
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LMFAO your trying to use that GFX card with that CPU!!!! Thats your problem Even a c2d E6300 bottlenecks a beastly card like that!!

Thats the trouble with PC's, once you upgrade one part you will probably have to upgrade the rest to keep your entire system at the same level

ATM that card is a bit of a waste in your current rig m8 as the 8800GTS/GTX is very CPU dependent anyway
no.. if you play at high res.. cpu speed means little.. like 2-3 fps difference.
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Hey guys.

Ok um..I have bought the 8800GTS..with new PSU, OCZ 600WATT Game X Stream edition, and well..I tryed it out playing Medieval 2 Total war..I did not change any settings so I could see the performance increase.....and iam very dissappointed.
Before I got this card..I was using the X800GT 256mb, and was getting 22-25FPS average...with the GTS...iam only reaching 32-40FPS..not even double FPS increase??
Also..tryed oblivion...was getting average of 24-28FPS...now iam getting 33-40FPS...thats a terrible increase...fecking lag still!!!!

I have an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0GHz...I think thats the problem..but is it? ive the latest drivers also for the card..97.92 I beleave.
anyone have any ideas?? I downloaded the latest DirectX drivers also..made no difference.
i suggest actually getting a 2gb dualchannel kit x2 1gb sticks.. of some good memory.. games like oblivion require lots of ram.. so does f.e.a.r.. hell i would suggest even more than 2gb ram...im about to go for 4gb.
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afro it make a diff when you start out low on the CPU speed chart 30FPS is crap on a 8800GTS the CPU is holding him back more than the ram is in fact as he oc's if he leaves the ram on the DDR400 divider and clocks up to 2.4ghz (240X10) that would be the best thing for him to do and completely capable on that system without a hitch even if he happens to have a 130nm (my newcastle is running 2.44ghz just fine on stock cooling ram is at 488mhz and it runs current games just fine on a ti4200 (340/600mhz) )
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well...I will be buying a good mainboard..I want a nice AMD Athlon 5200+ 2.6Ghz AM2 and 4 gigs of Corsair value PC5200 667Mhz RAM..I do beleave that this would love to work with the GTS no problem

I hope to buy this stuff by end of FEB if iam lucky...but perhaps april would be a good time to hold back and wait for what hits the markets next! eg...QUAD core CPUs
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well...I will be buying a good mainboard..I want a nice AMD Athlon 5200+ 2.6Ghz AM2 and 4 gigs of Corsair value PC5200 667Mhz RAM..I do beleave that this would love to work with the GTS no problem

I hope to buy this stuff by end of FEB if iam lucky...but perhaps april would be a good time to hold back and wait for what hits the markets next! eg...QUAD core CPUs
just wait till brisbane is up to the top end cpus
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afro it make a diff when you start out low on the CPU speed chart 30FPS is crap on a 8800GTS the CPU is holding him back more than the ram is in fact as he oc's if he leaves the ram on the DDR400 divider and clocks up to 2.4ghz (240X10) that would be the best thing for him to do and completely capable on that system without a hitch even if he happens to have a 130nm (my newcastle is running 2.44ghz just fine on stock cooling ram is at 488mhz and it runs current games just fine on a ti4200 (340/600mhz) )
LOL.... THE CPU IS NOT HOLDING THE 8800 GTS BACK...BECAUSE VIDEO GAMES ARE GRAPHICS PROCESSOR LIMITED AT HIGH GRAPHICS SETTINGS/RES.

resolutions like 800x600 or 1024x768 are processor speed bottlenecked resolutions.
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ahh...ok 3 gigs so

what or who are brisbane????

ok so..will I put my res up to 1200x1000 ??? so the CPU wont be called in to much?? or does the higher the res to more CPU power is consumed when gaming??
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what or who are brisbane????
amd 65nm cpu's
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ahhh!!! alritey then...what is a 65 CPU?? are they gonna be the QUAD cpus?
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ahhh!!! alritey then...what is a 65 CPU?? are they gonna be the QUAD cpus?
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65nanometers
there will be a quad cpu version for skt F making it a 8 cores system
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8 core...lol! I think thats going to far.....do we really need 8 core Cpus??
But hey..I guess the more the better! but not much games would take advantage of that tho
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bro save your money sell your 3200+ for 35 buck added 49 dollars or so to that and buy a AMD 64 4000+ you can hit 3.ghz with that bad boy its really an fx chip and ive seen them as low as 79.00 here in the USA. That would make your system rock for a year or so!! check wit tatty one hes from your part of the world and will be soon selling his 4000+
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heh lol!!! thats one bad boy all right

Iam not into overclocking and rather avoid that at all costs...I am perfectly happy going for a 5200 and spending 500 Euros for it also. I have a job...and every penny is been spent on the computer..so money is basicaly not an option at the moment

I want to buy stuff that will last 2 years if possible, not a year or so. Thats my big aim. Its my first ever time going for high end gear....so I want it to be really high HIGH end
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well how about a Opteron 185 939 dual core for 335.00 mine overclocks stable to over 3.ghz and if you don't want to change you core voltage it will go to 2.8 ghz by just upping the fronside bus 20 points. Its it fast at stock and its faster than a e6300, e6400 and near a e6600. It would last you a long time.
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I say just raise the resolution of your games for now. You don't even know what that card is capable of yet. You haven't even stressed it. Turn the resolution to as high as your monitor allows.
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ahh...ok 3 gigs so

what or who are brisbane????

ok so..will I put my res up to 1200x1000 ??? so the CPU wont be called in to much?? or does the higher the res to more CPU power is consumed when gaming??
I have run gaming benches and tested fron 1gig to 1.5gig to 2gig and found no difference , except for the fact that I had to loosen the timing up when I went to 1.5gig and more loosening on 2gig .But hey thats just me , I am currently useing 1gig=2x512 as i like that the best.
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