Latency Benchmark Competition

xvi · Jan 4, 2007, 09:07 AM

It was pointed out to me that both overclocking and lowering your timings will lower your overall memory latency. With this in mind, I thought it would be very interesting to see a comparison for Memory Latencies.
So, here it is! Download Everest Ultimate and run the "Memory Latency" benchmark.

When submitting your score, post a screenshot of the benchmarks and your brief system specs.

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Memory Latency Benchmark Competition
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1: dino25 = 32.5 ns (2x512MB GeIL One @ DDR-560 2-2-2-11 1T)
2: KennyT772 = 38.6 ns (2x512MB Crucial Tracer PC4000 @ DDR2-533 2.5-2-2-11 1T)
3: PT (aka: The Former Latency King) = 38.9 ns (2x512MB A-DATA DDR2-800 Extreme Edition @ DDR2-1121 5-5-5-13 2T)
4: Judas = 39.0 ns (G Skill F2-6400CL4D-2GBHK @ DDR2-967 4-4-3-5 2T)
5: Darknova = 40.1 ns (2x512MB Corsair Value DDR400 @ DDR-427 2-3-2-6 1T)
6: Nitro-Max = 41.7 ns (2x512 PC3200 OCZ Premiere @ DDR-400 2-3-2-5 1T)
7: KennyT772 = 40.2 ns (Curcial Tracer DDR-500 @ DDR-520 2.5-3-3-8 1T)
8: DRDNA = 40.7 ns (??? @ DDR-448 2-3-3-5 1T)
9: cdawall = 42.5 ns (1x512MB ULTRA DDR400 @ DDR-488 2.5-3-2-6 1T)
10: giorgos th. = 43.1 ns (2x1024MB G.SKILL PC6400HZ @ DDR2-856 4-4-4-8 2T)
11: Steevo = 43.6 ns (2x512MB OCZ DDR400 @ DDR-385 2-2-2-5 1T)
12: AthlonX2 = 46.7 ns (1GB Kingston HyperX DDR-400 @ DDR-548 2-3-3-6 2T)
13: Wile E = 47.0 ns (2x512MB OCZ Platinum @ DDR2-948MHz 5-5-5-15 2T)
14: PyroInc = 47.9 ns (4096MB Corsair XMS2 Pro Series @ DDR2-804MHz 4-4-4-12 2T)
15: Batou1986 = 48.1 ns (2x512MB Corsair Value Select @ DDR-440 2.5-3-3-8-12 2T)
16: xvi = 48.4 ns (2x512MB Corsair XMS CMX512-3200C2 @ DDR-477 3-3-3-8-12 2T)
17: mortal = 49.1 ns (2x1024MB Corsair Value @ DDR-472 3-3-3-7 2T)
18: jms45 = 49.3 ns (2x512MB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 675 @ DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 1T)
19: technicks = 54.2 ns (2x512MB Dane-Elec DDR PC3200 @ DDR-371 2.5-3-3-7 2T)
20: Tigger69 = 63.4 ns (2x512mb Patriot EP DDR2 900 @ 560/DDR2-1120 5-5-5-15)
21: Demos_sav = 72.6 ns (2x512MB Kingston Hyper-X, 2x256MB Infineon DDR2-533 @ DDR2-701 3-4-4-6)
22: sno.lcn = 73.1 ns (2x1024MB OCZ Platinum DDR2-800 @ DDR2-826 5-5-5-15)
23: magibeg = 87.4ns Unofficial (1024MB DDR2-??? @ DDR2-??? ?-?-?-?)
24: DanTheBanjoman = 89 ns Unofficial (4x512MB PC5300 FB @ 400MHz Quad channel)

xvi · Jan 4, 2007, 09:08 AM

DFI LanParty UT nForce3 250gb
2x512MB Corsair CMX512-3200C2
238FSB @ 3-3-3-8-12 2T

DanTheBanjoman · Jan 4, 2007, 09:15 AM

How about combining all memory related results in a single thread? My latency is about 89 ns btw

Which gives me about the highest latency, let's go for highest.

xvi · Jan 4, 2007, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanTheBanjoman

How about combining all memory related results in a single thread? My latency is about 89 ns btw

Which gives me about the highest latency, let's go for highest.

Aww.. Highest? Where's the performance in that?

Care to give me a screenshot and make it official?

jms45 · Jan 4, 2007, 09:26 AM

Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe NF570
2x 512MB Corsair XMS2 675 @ 800Mhz 4-4-4-12 CR1
255 FSB

Wile E · Jan 4, 2007, 09:36 AM

Here's mine. I don't know why, but it Identifies my CPU wrong. 2x512MB OCZ Platinum. 5-5-5-15 @ 948MHz 2T

DanTheBanjoman · Jan 4, 2007, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xvi

Aww.. Highest? Where's the performance in that?

Care to give me a screenshot and make it official?

It's like smoking weed. It's relaxed so it's good?

Can't make a screeny while I'm at work. Somewhere in the future I see the possibility though.

xvi · Jan 4, 2007, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

Here's mine. I don't know why, but it Identifies my CPU wrong. 2x512MB OCZ Platinum. 5-5-5-15 @ 947MHz

Ahh.. Dethroned by Wile E. I was hoping I'd remain on top for longer than that. *Evil glare at Sempron*

dino25 · Jan 9, 2007, 05:09 PM

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Ej people...what about this!!!!!!!!!!

Amd Athlon 64 3200 venice
Dfi lanparty nf4 Ultra-d
Geil one W 2x512 mb

mortal · Jan 9, 2007, 06:18 PM

Nice rusult

Wile E · Jan 10, 2007, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dino25

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Ej people...what about this!!!!!!!!!!

Amd Athlon 64 3200 venice
Dfi lanparty nf4 Ultra-d
Geil one W 2x512 mb

PHOTOSHOP!!!! lol j/k

Very nice score.

dino25 · Jan 10, 2007, 08:56 AM

Tnx..i had aircodition pointed at my pc to cool it down..and ram had 3.9 volts..

tigger · Jan 10, 2007, 09:53 AM

heres mine-

mortal · Jan 10, 2007, 02:45 PM

DDR2 can't compete in latency with good DDR1. I can beat best DDR2 with worst DDR1.

xvi · Jan 10, 2007, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mortal

DDR2 can't compete in latency with good DDR1. I can beat best DDR2 with worst DDR1.

That seems to be the trend. That's one of the reasons why I started this thread, too. I wanted some sort of competition that I had a chance at winning.

mortal · Jan 10, 2007, 04:35 PM

You can do much better with that configuration! You must put 1T play with timming. I thin you can go under 40

AthlonX2 · Jan 10, 2007, 04:36 PM

here is my A64X2

Darknova · Jan 10, 2007, 05:16 PM

Here is mine. It's the highest I can currently get it to go and POST.

Demos_sav · Jan 10, 2007, 05:29 PM

Dual channel DDR2 2*512MB Kingston Hyper-X & 2*256 Infineon
533MHz @ 666MHz

xvi · Jan 10, 2007, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demos_sav

Dual channel DDR2 2*512MB Kingston Hyper-X & 2*256 Infineon
533MHz @ 666MHz

Are your timings seriously 3-4-3-1? You should bring up your trc to at least 5. A lower trc isn't better, from what I've heard.

Darknova · Jan 10, 2007, 05:46 PM

New Overclock (upped voltage to 2.8 on RAM)

AthlonX2 · Jan 10, 2007, 07:00 PM

lowered timings a bit

xvi · Jan 10, 2007, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AthlonX2

lowered timings a bit

Noooooo!! Now I'm in 5th! Oh well.. Cheers.

Darknova · Jan 10, 2007, 07:42 PM

AthlonX2, try using a CR of 1, should provide a bit of a boost.

xvi · Jan 10, 2007, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darknova

AthlonX2, try using a CR of 1, should provide a bit of a boost.

That's if he can still post at 2T..

Speaking of that specific timing, anyone know what to look for in the BIOS to change it?

Jan 4, 2007, 09:07 AM	#1
xvi Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Washington, US Posts: 870 (0.36/day) Thanks: 489 Thanked 225 Times in 124 Posts System Specs	Latency Benchmark Competition It was pointed out to me that both overclocking and lowering your timings will lower your overall memory latency. With this in mind, I thought it would be very interesting to see a comparison for Memory Latencies. So, here it is! Download Everest Ultimate and run the "Memory Latency" benchmark. When submitting your score, post a screenshot of the benchmarks and your brief system specs. ******************************************** Memory Latency Benchmark Competition ****************************************** 1: dino25 = 32.5 ns (2x512MB GeIL One @ DDR-560 2-2-2-11 1T) 2: KennyT772 = 38.6 ns (2x512MB Crucial Tracer PC4000 @ DDR2-533 2.5-2-2-11 1T) 3: PT (aka: The Former Latency King) = 38.9 ns (2x512MB A-DATA DDR2-800 Extreme Edition @ DDR2-1121 5-5-5-13 2T) 4: Judas = 39.0 ns (G Skill F2-6400CL4D-2GBHK @ DDR2-967 4-4-3-5 2T) 5: Darknova = 40.1 ns (2x512MB Corsair Value DDR400 @ DDR-427 2-3-2-6 1T) 6: Nitro-Max = 41.7 ns (2x512 PC3200 OCZ Premiere @ DDR-400 2-3-2-5 1T) 7: KennyT772 = 40.2 ns (Curcial Tracer DDR-500 @ DDR-520 2.5-3-3-8 1T) 8: DRDNA = 40.7 ns (??? @ DDR-448 2-3-3-5 1T) 9: cdawall = 42.5 ns (1x512MB ULTRA DDR400 @ DDR-488 2.5-3-2-6 1T) 10: giorgos th. = 43.1 ns (2x1024MB G.SKILL PC6400HZ @ DDR2-856 4-4-4-8 2T) 11: Steevo = 43.6 ns (2x512MB OCZ DDR400 @ DDR-385 2-2-2-5 1T) 12: AthlonX2 = 46.7 ns (1GB Kingston HyperX DDR-400 @ DDR-548 2-3-3-6 2T) 13: Wile E = 47.0 ns (2x512MB OCZ Platinum @ DDR2-948MHz 5-5-5-15 2T) 14: PyroInc = 47.9 ns (4096MB Corsair XMS2 Pro Series @ DDR2-804MHz 4-4-4-12 2T) 15: Batou1986 = 48.1 ns (2x512MB Corsair Value Select @ DDR-440 2.5-3-3-8-12 2T) 16: xvi = 48.4 ns (2x512MB Corsair XMS CMX512-3200C2 @ DDR-477 3-3-3-8-12 2T) 17: mortal = 49.1 ns (2x1024MB Corsair Value @ DDR-472 3-3-3-7 2T) 18: jms45 = 49.3 ns (2x512MB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 675 @ DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 1T) 19: technicks = 54.2 ns (2x512MB Dane-Elec DDR PC3200 @ DDR-371 2.5-3-3-7 2T) 20: Tigger69 = 63.4 ns (2x512mb Patriot EP DDR2 900 @ 560/DDR2-1120 5-5-5-15) 21: Demos_sav = 72.6 ns (2x512MB Kingston Hyper-X, 2x256MB Infineon DDR2-533 @ DDR2-701 3-4-4-6) 22: sno.lcn = 73.1 ns (2x1024MB OCZ Platinum DDR2-800 @ DDR2-826 5-5-5-15) 23: magibeg = 87.4ns Unofficial (1024MB DDR2-??? @ DDR2-??? ?-?-?-?) 24: DanTheBanjoman = 89 ns** Unofficial (4x512MB PC5300 FB @ 400MHz Quad channel) Last edited by xvi; Feb 19, 2007 at 11:26 PM. Reason: I keep forgetting to update the number ranks. 1,2,2,2,2,3,4,5

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Jan 9, 2007, 06:18 PM	#10
mortal Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Croatia - Umag Posts: 118 (0.05/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts System Specs	Nice rusult

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dino25 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Croatia,Umag Posts: 76 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts System Specs	Tnx..i had aircodition pointed at my pc to cool it down..and ram had 3.9 volts..

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mortal Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Croatia - Umag Posts: 118 (0.05/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts System Specs	DDR2 can't compete in latency with good DDR1. I can beat best DDR2 with worst DDR1. __________________ [img disabled]http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?t=1&uid=6308&iehack=.jpg[/img]

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Jan 10, 2007, 05:46 PM	#21
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Jan 10, 2007, 07:00 PM	#22
AthlonX2 Better Than You Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo,Ohio Posts: 5,449 (2.24/day) Thanks: 730 Thanked 1,572 Times in 994 Posts System Specs	lowered timings a bit

Jan 10, 2007, 07:42 PM	#24
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