Computer routers face hijack risk:

NamesDontMatter · Feb 19, 2007, 12:33 AM

Researchers at both Symantec Corp. and the University of Indiana say routers are at risk of highjacking. The research found that router users are succeptable to hijacking of their hardware through malicious code hiding in specially crafted websites that could change settings on the network devices and begin phishing attacks. These attacks are very dangerous to users an example givin by cbc.ca states, "For example, a person could enter the correct address of their bank's website into their web browser but they would be taken to a fake site designed to steal their banking information." The scary thing is that this particular type of attack works on The on all major consumer routers, including routers made by Linksys, Belkin, Netgear and D-Link, but only after a user on that device visited a specially crafted web page for it to work.

Source: cbc.ca

WarEagleAU · Feb 19, 2007, 12:44 AM

::cringe:: this isnt good news....

XooM · Feb 19, 2007, 01:27 AM

thank God, the FSM, and Tom Cruise for Smoothwall

niko084 · Feb 19, 2007, 01:52 AM

Cisco 850 FTW! < Maybe I should get one, they do the trick, and are the cheapest of the group.

I have been highly considering setting up another linux machine to act as a router anyways.

PyroInc · Feb 19, 2007, 02:12 AM

wouldn't the url be different then. I'd notice something was wrong then

Namslas90 · Feb 19, 2007, 03:32 AM

Just another reason why I don't/won't use routers. Multiple ISP's is the way to go!!

XooM · Feb 19, 2007, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PyroInc

wouldn't the url be different then. I'd notice something was wrong then

no. It could spoof your DNS and redirect any normal URL to any page they wanted, all while looking completely legit.

spectre440 · Feb 19, 2007, 09:07 AM

this definantly isnt good...

there are way to protect one's PC against these types of things, but how does one protect ones router?

ex_reven · Feb 19, 2007, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spectre440

this definantly isnt good...

there are way to protect one's PC against these types of things, but how does one protect ones router?

get a firewall router?
and set it up properly

Pinchy · Feb 19, 2007, 09:59 AM

hmm, i hope SMC isnt affected

Poisonsnak · Feb 19, 2007, 01:54 PM

read the rest of the story at the end of the link:

Quote:

The researchers cited surveys that showed half of home router users use the default password or no password on the device, and 95 per cent allow their web browsers to use JavaScript code.

"This means 47.5 per cent of all home users … are effectively leaving themselves open to another attack — allowing attackers to circumvent all known anti-phishing countermeasures," the researchers wrote.

These are the same kind of people that don't secure their wireless networks

newbielives · Feb 19, 2007, 03:03 PM

I was scared for a minute there lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poisonsnak

read the rest of the story at the end of the link:

These are the same kind of people that don't secure their wireless networks

Alec§taar · Feb 19, 2007, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NamesDontMatter

Researchers at both Symantec Corp. and the University of Indiana say routers are at risk of highjacking. The research found that router users are succeptable to hijacking of their hardware through malicious code hiding in specially crafted websites that could change settings on the network devices and begin phishing attacks. These attacks are very dangerous to users an example givin by cbc.ca states, "For example, a person could enter the correct address of their bank's website into their web browser but they would be taken to a fake site designed to steal their banking information." The scary thing is that this particular type of attack works on The on all major consumer routers, including routers made by Linksys, Belkin, Netgear and D-Link, but only after a user on that device visited a specially crafted web page for it to work.

Source: cbc.ca

Turn off JAVASCRIPT in your browsers & web based apps that use it...

* This is the reason WHY I do so, OR rather, a part of it... & only use it, where you HAVE to. For INTRANET usage, it's decent stuff... but, for the public internet, it definitely has DOWNSIDES!

APK

P.S.=> Webmasters may not LIKE me doing that, but it is a personal choice - I'd like to keep my system solid & secure as is possible! apk

Poisonsnak · Feb 19, 2007, 09:52 PM

Well I was more concerned with those who leave the default password on their router but hey I've never liked javascript either.

Scavar · Feb 19, 2007, 09:54 PM

After reading this, I decided I would finally turn Javascript off.

My dad is pretty insane when it comes to routers. Who the hell uses the default password? Isn't it like admin for all of them? I mean come on....

Pinchy · Feb 20, 2007, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poisonsnak

read the rest of the story at the end of the link:

These are the same kind of people that don't secure their wireless networks

lol who doesnt use a password

ex_reven · Feb 20, 2007, 04:36 AM

My router password is set to default

i could never really be bothered to change it

i would of course do so if i was visiting less than ideal websites, but i havnt ventured away from hotmail, tpu, myspace and wikipedia on this computer in the few months ive had it.

il change it later

Pinchy · Feb 20, 2007, 04:41 AM

you log onto your internet banking

!

dont mind me if i sit out the front of your house with my bro's laptop

ex_reven · Feb 20, 2007, 04:46 AM

you would have no idea how to steal my bank funds kiddo

Pinchy · Feb 20, 2007, 04:47 AM

make a bet

?

I already know your router password

ex_reven · Feb 20, 2007, 04:48 AM

shutup

Pinchy · Feb 20, 2007, 04:51 AM

Moral of the story, change ur password

ex_reven · Feb 20, 2007, 05:05 AM

changed...

you happy?

Pinchy · Feb 20, 2007, 05:06 AM

no, now i cant wipe your bank account

xylomn · Feb 21, 2007, 08:55 AM

Just use firefox with the NoScript extension... then you can enable javascript for the sites you need and leave it off for everything else... works a treat

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ex_reven Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,413 (1.39/day) Thanks: 117 Thanked 181 Times in 166 Posts System Specs	My router password is set to default i could never really be bothered to change it i would of course do so if i was visiting less than ideal websites, but i havnt ventured away from hotmail, tpu, myspace and wikipedia on this computer in the few months ive had it. il change it later

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ex_reven Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,413 (1.39/day) Thanks: 117 Thanked 181 Times in 166 Posts System Specs	you would have no idea how to steal my bank funds kiddo

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Pinchy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,650 (1.80/day) Thanks: 302 Thanked 360 Times in 344 Posts System Specs	make a bet ? I already know your router password __________________ mATX rig: TT Lanbox Lite, GA-G33M-DS2R, q9300, 4GB G.Skill Pi PC8000, 2x640GB Samsung F1's in RAID 0, LG 20x DVD+/RW, HIS IceQ HD4670 512MB, Gigabyte G-Power PRO, TT 450W TR2 RX Modular PSU HTPC: i-Cute iBox, GA-MA780GM-S2H, 4850e, 2GB G.Skill PC6400, 1x640GB WD SE16, Onboard HD3200, D-link XtremeN PCIe, Leadtek WinFast DVR3100 H Tuner, 450W Vantec PSU Server: Custom made case, EPIA Mini-ITX mobo, 1GHz VIA, 1GB PC2700 SO-DIMM, 1TB WD, Gigabit PCI LAN card, 60W 12V AC adapter

Feb 20, 2007, 04:48 AM	#21
ex_reven Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,413 (1.39/day) Thanks: 117 Thanked 181 Times in 166 Posts System Specs	shutup

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Pinchy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,650 (1.80/day) Thanks: 302 Thanked 360 Times in 344 Posts System Specs	Moral of the story, change ur password __________________ mATX rig: TT Lanbox Lite, GA-G33M-DS2R, q9300, 4GB G.Skill Pi PC8000, 2x640GB Samsung F1's in RAID 0, LG 20x DVD+/RW, HIS IceQ HD4670 512MB, Gigabyte G-Power PRO, TT 450W TR2 RX Modular PSU HTPC: i-Cute iBox, GA-MA780GM-S2H, 4850e, 2GB G.Skill PC6400, 1x640GB WD SE16, Onboard HD3200, D-link XtremeN PCIe, Leadtek WinFast DVR3100 H Tuner, 450W Vantec PSU Server: Custom made case, EPIA Mini-ITX mobo, 1GHz VIA, 1GB PC2700 SO-DIMM, 1TB WD, Gigabit PCI LAN card, 60W 12V AC adapter

Feb 20, 2007, 05:05 AM	#23
ex_reven Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,413 (1.39/day) Thanks: 117 Thanked 181 Times in 166 Posts System Specs	changed... you happy?

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Pinchy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 4,650 (1.80/day) Thanks: 302 Thanked 360 Times in 344 Posts System Specs	no, now i cant wipe your bank account __________________ mATX rig: TT Lanbox Lite, GA-G33M-DS2R, q9300, 4GB G.Skill Pi PC8000, 2x640GB Samsung F1's in RAID 0, LG 20x DVD+/RW, HIS IceQ HD4670 512MB, Gigabyte G-Power PRO, TT 450W TR2 RX Modular PSU HTPC: i-Cute iBox, GA-MA780GM-S2H, 4850e, 2GB G.Skill PC6400, 1x640GB WD SE16, Onboard HD3200, D-link XtremeN PCIe, Leadtek WinFast DVR3100 H Tuner, 450W Vantec PSU Server: Custom made case, EPIA Mini-ITX mobo, 1GHz VIA, 1GB PC2700 SO-DIMM, 1TB WD, Gigabit PCI LAN card, 60W 12V AC adapter

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