windows 2000 pro login help!!!

[mysticjon]

ok heres my situation, i found this laptop months ago, and no one claimed it, so i waited that month before i could turn it on, but now i turned it on, and its using windows 2000 pro and its asking me for a password, and i cant delete the "log on to" part where u choose ur domain i guess. i tried doing this method where u make this bootup floppy and do this stuff where u make it where in the login screen u just type in "administrator" and hit enter and ur logged in. well i cant seem to log in sincethe domain names are not reachable, i found this laptop via public transportation, and im guessing i would need access to that specific domain in order to log in, im wondering if i cam bypass/disable or whatever the domain names so i an log in this laptop at my house?? i tried holding the shift key but no luck, if anybody knows what im doing wrong here or knows how to "go around" this login thingy please respond

[Easy Rhino]

uh, simple. just install a new OS.

[Solaris17]

safe mode? then create a new account and delete the old one...press F8 at start up.

[Easy Rhino]

if you 'found' this laptop on a bus/train you probably would want to format it anyway since its most likely filled with crap. just start a fresh install and be done with it.

[mullered07]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

if you 'found' this laptop on a bus/train you probably would want to format it anyway since its most likely filled with crap. just start a fresh install and be done with it.

defo go with that and do a clean install, unless you like prying lol

[DanTheBanjoman]

select log on locally, if this is disabled you could always create a domain with the same name in VMware or something. Though since you found it I take it there is nothing you want on it (in fact I think you'd be breaking some privacy law) Just install Windows on the disk and let setup format (or even repartition if required) it.

[mysticjon]

this laptop doesnt have a cd rom or floppy so i used a bootable usb flash drive that had windows xp usb edition on it, well i got onto the xp OS and i can access the files from the c drive, the usb drive has XP BartPe?? whatever that is...but anyways now im getting this logon message error that says

the local policy of this system does not permit you to logon interactivly

what kinda logon message is that?? imguessing that since the domains names on the laptop are still there and i have the laptop connectd to my router, would that be the confliction for logon's????

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by mysticjon

this laptop doesnt have a cd rom or floppy so i used a bootable usb flash drive that had windows xp usb edition on it, well i got onto the xp OS and i can access the files from the c drive, the usb drive has XP BartPe?? whatever that is...but anyways now im getting this logon message error that says

the local policy of this system does not permit you to logon interactivly

what kinda logon message is that?? imguessing that since the domains names on the laptop are still there and i have the laptop connectd to my router, would that be the confliction for logon's????

im confused. you found an old laptop on public transportation that doesnt have a cdrom/floppy drive in it but has USB? so is there even a port for cdrom/floppy?

[Alec§taar]

MANUAL, CHARACTER MODE WAY TO BYPASS & DEFEAT MICROSOFT WINDOWS 2000/XP/SERVER 2003 MSGINA.DLL (called by WinLogon process) LOGON SCREEN:

If you can get ahold of a writing version of NTFSDOS Pro (has NTFS write abilities, the free model iirc is READ ONLY)

OR

Another commandline type processor (they ARE out there, & Mijenix (OnTrack, & now diff. vendor name iirc as their owner) even had one in their SYSTEM SUITE/FIX-IT TOOLS as well in older versions @ least - mxntboot.exe)?

You want to replace the registry SAM file, located @ %WinDir%\System32\config:

This stores security settings! Use another one from another system, & you CAN 'blow by this' by backing up the original first, then copying in one that YOU know the password too.

Mind you - A LINUX bootup using 2.6 kernel w/ NTFS write capablities would probably cut it as well, mind you, provided its SOLID & not too buggy.

(I am PRETTY FAIRLY SURE this manual method, works.)



AUTOMATED GUI WAY TO BYPASS & DEFEAT MICROSOFT WINDOWS 2000/XP/SERVER 2003 MSGINA.DLL (called by WinLogon process) LOGON SCREEN:

There is also tools by SysInternals/WinTernals that "automate" this task as well, called:

Winternals ERD Commander

Not 110% sure if it uses the same methods I outline above, replacing the SAM registry hive, but they DO work.

(BUT, they cost, & imo, end up doing the SAME thing, but w/ a GUI 'safemode' like environs you boot into... WinPE based? Not sure, but I have used them before for this (security/forensics type of work & system recovery type work) type of task)...

* Once you're in there, using this tool? You can change pwd's on users, all you like...

APK

P.S.=> I noted now (editing) that your logon is asking for domain credentials (AD or oldstyle LanManager roaming profile type stuff)!

So, during logon? Well, Try THE OPTIONS (ADVANCED) BUTTON on the logon screen for MSGINA.DLL!

IN your case: You MAY be able to JUST LOGON LOCALLY INSTEAD OF TO A DOMAIN CONTROLLER as an option - lol, it's been SO LONG since I rebooted here, I can't recall ALL THE OPTIONS (testament to Windows Server 2003 stability imo)... apk

[mysticjon]

hey thanks for all ur help, i finally logged in lol,thanks to alecstar

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by mysticjon

hey thanks for all ur help, i finally logged in lol,thanks to alecstar

Which method worked? There were 3 of them, but as I stated in my P.S., yours MAY have been as simple as the "4th" in my P.S., due to your situation... so, I truly AM curious, which you employed.



* We ought to post this as a sticky for folks in your situation in the software section... folks that can't logon to their systems, for WHATEVER reasons!

APK

P.S.=> Thanks for answering... apk

[Completely Bonkers]

@mysticjon

in whatever way you "found" that laptop... now that you are in... if you see some files or data that you think might be important to the owner... then burn a CD/DVD and anonymously post it to the owner. Put a post it in and say original data reformated, here's your backup.

I know from experience that sometimes the data is much more valuable than the laptop, and they will very much appreciate it. You can then sleep with a clean conscience.

(Insurance will cover the loss of the hardware... but the loss of data or years of hard work... can actually put someone OUT OF A JOB. Save them.)

[Alec§taar]

Heck!

The ONLY reason I told him HOW to get in, was so he could find out WHOSE laptop it is, & return it...



* Do the right thing man... what goes around, comes around.

APK

P.S.=> Also, mysticjon, if you would - please inform me which method you used above... just curious! apk

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by Alec§taar

Heck!

The ONLY reason I told him HOW to get in, was so he could find out WHOSE laptop it is, & return it...



* Do the right thing man... what goes around, comes around.

APK

P.S.=> Also, mysticjon, if you would - please inform me which method you used above... just curious! apk

lol that is true. you most likely want to return it. have you seen the movie 'enemy of the state' ? you might want to check out your window for a white van or a few high flying black helicopters!!!!

[mysticjon]

i found the user name contacted his email, and the wierd thing is he justmoved in the same neighbor hood as me, i asked him why didnt u go looking for it, he said well well whats the use of contacting the BART lost and found managment, when someone coulda just stole it, so i told him that i had had hislaptop for some time now and i told him i contacted the BART lost and found managment...but at the end he bought me a really nice 24 inche widesreen moniter, i told hi he didnt have too, but he insisted so whatthe hell i got a new moniter oh i used the replacing the SAM regestrty, like i said i had to make a bootable usb flash drive to do this, but thanks again alecstarr. i wasnt even thinkin of doing anything malicous or that would get me in trouble..i just didnt want to have some guys laptopgo to waste....but again thank u,

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by mysticjon

i found the user name contacted his email, and the wierd thing is he justmoved in the same neighbor hood as me, i asked him why didnt u go looking for it, he said well well whats the use of contacting the BART lost and found managment, when someone coulda just stole it, so i told him that i had had hislaptop for some time now and i told him i contacted the BART lost and found managment...but at the end he bought me a really nice 24 inche widesreen moniter, i told hi he didnt have too, but he insisted so whatthe hell i got a new moniter

Proud of you man... I thought you went & ripped it off to be BLUNT & HONEST about it, from my end... or that you DID actually find it, & had no intention of returning it.

See, & what "goes around comes around", in that the person who owned it did you WAY right, & rewarded you... & bigtime! I'd LOVE to have that big of a flatscreen...

* GOOD JOB, seriously! & it worked out ROSES for U!

Originally Posted by mysticjon

oh i used the replacing the SAM regestrty, like i said i had to make a bootable usb flash drive to do this, but thanks again alecstarr. i wasnt even thinkin of doing anything malicous or that would get me in trouble..i just didnt want to have some guys laptopgo to waste....but again thank u,

You're welcome... and THANK YOU, for being honest, & 'making a liar outta me'...



* I say that, because of what I stated above... when you didn't answer, I was like "Man, I just helped someone rip off a laptop & enter it so they could use it!" & because he's NOT answering? I feel like I 'aided & abetted' it...

APK

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

lol that is true. you most likely want to return it. have you seen the movie 'enemy of the state' ? you might want to check out your window for a white van or a few high flying black helicopters!!!!

Yea, good flick... & lol, SETI really HAS 'found something' (a laptop):

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=25933

* If you read there, you will see what I mean - Namslas90 called the SETI client a "lojack for laptops" & in a REAL way, it was, in that case!

APK

[DRDNA]

VERY nice

[mysticjon]

sorry that i couldnt respnd to u alecstarr sooner, but this new moniter is badas$, inow have room for my vista side bar and games uhh okay iwould say, but im gunna d/l those new catalyst drivers right now, nah dont sweat it man, internets been down and enjoying my new moniter lol, but yeah the guy happened to be an older gentlemen a first when i approached him he was on the defense side, yeah no he doesnt know e vice versa, but we talked and what do u know he drives me to frys and whippes out his wallet and we well I walked out with a something ididnt expect lol,

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by mysticjon

sorry that i couldnt respnd to u alecstarr sooner, but this new moniter is badas$, inow have room for my vista side bar and games uhh okay iwould say, but im gunna d/l those new catalyst drivers right now, nah dont sweat it man, internets been down and enjoying my new moniter lol, but yeah the guy happened to be an older gentlemen a first when i approached him he was on the defense side, yeah no he doesnt know e vice versa, but we talked and what do u know he drives me to frys and whippes out his wallet and we well I walked out with a something ididnt expect lol,

No problem... I just felt like "I did the wrong thing" above is all, when you DID NOT reply. I credit you in this thread for your honesty, & here too:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showth...009#post269009



* If the world had more folks like YOU in it? It'd be a better place...

(Now, I feel better about this)

See, when you see me NOT 'quote' somebody here (rare)? It means I am in a hurry, not taking time to address each point a person makes, giving a LOT of detail, even though it "bloats" my posts & makes 'encyclopedia's' outta them!

Yes, & I get ribbed on for it too, sometimes rightfully, because I 'go off on tangents' to make a point or offer analogs...

If I am NOT quoting? Well, then I am 'skimming' posts then, only. Not so good, & why I quote others USUALLY... I was out to help, & thought I was harming instead.

You proved my assumptions, WRONG!

EDIT PART - interesting use of a USB thumbdrive too... I never would have thought of it, & instead used the 'oldschool method' of a floppy instead.

APK

P.S.=> Now, if we could only get today's "leaders" (ENRON & the like) to be like this? It would ALL be good... apk

[DRDNA]

Alec§taar , your are the type of person I would truely like to meet in person !!! We are pretty close to each other so maybe one day this can happen!
The world needs people like you too , thnx for being you

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by DRDNA

Alec§taar , your are the type of person I would truely like to meet in person !!! We are pretty close to each other so maybe one day this can happen!
The world needs people like you too , thnx for being you

Thanks... but, I had what I call my "arrogant a-hole period" in my younger days... trying to achieve better karma in MANY things now... this extended to many levels, & I wish I could go back & talk to myself back then & say:

"Fool, listen: What goes around WILL come around back @ you, 5x over!"

(Funny part is, it did, in many ways... I paid out large, when some of the b.s. I pulled on others came 'roaring back @ me' later on, & I sat there like "wtf did I do to deserve this" & then I thought about the stuff I had done to others (not even those doing me wrong then) & I sort of came to THAT conclusion - I was just getting back what I dished out!)

Anyhow... I am just a guy, like anybody else.

APK

P.S.=> Maybe one day we will do that... who knows? Sometimes, I get out your way, west end of the state, & heck - back in 1995-1996, I worked for a year or two for GOULDS pumps, only about 1/2 hr. from you, near GENEVA! Plus, lol, I go on the "cayuga wine trail" every summer w/ my neighbor, & that's NOT that far from you... & that would be the time to do it, lol, imo... Wine makes me a 'happy guy' @ times, & in moderation! apk

[mysticjon]

its cool man i were inur shoes i woulda thougt the same way as u, btw whats APK?? The reason y i didnt mention the FULL story is because i didnt want people knowing my buissnes, but thanks for crediting me i thought it woulda sounded cool like "ahh i found this laptop and i wanna hack it" i mean i woulda gotten less responses if itold a "boring story" soi hope u know where im coming from....coolness=more responses boringness=no repsonseslol

[Alec§taar]

Originally Posted by mysticjon

its cool man i were inur shoes i woulda thougt the same way as u, btw whats APK??

Cool, human nature & all that... plus, what CB said kind of got me thinking that way. APK is my 'real world' initials, lol, when I am "not here in the Matrix"...

On that note? See here:

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/390

LOL! Try it, you'll like it...

Originally Posted by mysticjon

The reason y i didnt mention the FULL story is because i didnt want people knowing my buissnes, but thanks for crediting me

Fair enough, & you're welcome...

Originally Posted by mysticjon

i thought it woulda sounded cool like "ahh i found this laptop and i wanna hack it" i mean i woulda gotten less responses if itold a "boring story" soi hope u know where im coming from....coolness=more responses boringness=no repsonseslol

Probably true on ALL accounts...

(TIME FOR LUNCH!!!)

APK

[mysticjon]

thats a tight screen saver, u made it right? well i gotto eat breakfast soon, its almost 9m